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04-13-2001, 05:12 AM
I'm sure this has been posted before...but does anyone having any information on the Taoist theory of holding in ones semen during ejaculation as not to lose "chi." I'm wondering... Is this dangerous? Does it offer some benefit? What are the mechanics of this (ie where does the semen go if not "out"?) Has anyone tried this or mastered it? Are there any books or videos on this subject? Bye the way this IS a serious post. :confused:

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danny from miami
04-13-2001, 04:50 PM
tried yesterday, lasted a long time but finally had to blow

04-14-2001, 10:02 AM
I heard you have to be careful doing this because if you try to hold it back and you have gone too far, then there is the possibility of the ejaculate being fired back up the passages into the kidneys (not sure how this works, just read about it somewhere). If this happens, it can cause some very nasty kidney problems.

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Fish of Fury
04-16-2001, 07:10 AM
actually ABandit, i think when it gets fired up the back passage you have a different problem entirely :eek:

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04-16-2001, 07:56 AM
Hmmmm. I hadn't considered that one, but I don't intend to ever have that problem :D

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04-18-2001, 01:53 AM
That problem sounds fruity. This is also part of Yoga health pratices isn't it? karma sutra and the like!

04-18-2001, 05:15 AM
If anyone is interested, there is a book available through amazon.com called the art of the bedchamber: a book of chinese sexual classics and women's yoga. It is an acedemic book and covers things such as those mentioned earlier.

04-19-2001, 07:36 PM
Deng Ming-Dao discusses this topic and gives sound guidence in Scholar Warrior : An Introduction to the Tao in Everyday Life.

Eight Diagram Boxer
04-20-2001, 04:23 AM
Not sure this is appropriate, but I just used the pressing technique where you press on the meridian point before ejaculation and it worked VERY well, I feel great!

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8 Sweaty Palms
04-21-2001, 04:07 AM
I've had a lot of luck using Barry White's All Time Greatest Hits CD. It's not very Taoist, but hey - he is a master of sorts.


04-23-2001, 08:08 PM
8 Sweaty Palms: Great post! LOL!!

04-30-2001, 11:32 PM
For good info on this check out

The Multi-Orgasmic Couple or The Multi-Orgasmic Male by Mantak Chia...

cool stuff!!!

"If you are talking about sport that is one thing. But when you are talking about combat-as it is-well then, baby, you'd better train every part of your body" - Bruce Lee

05-01-2001, 06:43 AM
You think my mom would kill me if I went out and bought one of those books?

05-01-2001, 07:52 AM
Not if you swap the cover with a Steven Hawkins book. I'm sure she'll think you're very astute. :D

05-09-2001, 04:24 PM
concentrate your breathing in your diachean (sp hehe) just like when meditating or doing chigung. also concentrate on what you are doing with every other part of your body except your trooper. both of these help for a while. also if you can keep going after having a single orgasm the next one is much easier to control . . in fact i have to make sure i get it before my woman gets sore or im sol.

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05-09-2001, 09:39 PM
Study the Healing Tao system of Mantak Chia. He explains sexual practices in a book called "Taoists Secrets of Love: Cultivating Male Sexual Energy". Of course, open the Microcosmic Orbit first, which is explained in "Awaken Healing Energy Through the Tao". Trust me, it is not harmful if you open your Microcosmic orbit first and clear the energy blockages. The sexual practice gives you amazing energy.

05-16-2001, 07:59 PM
Jarek Szymanski's website has an interview with Ma Chuanxu, a big gun of Beijing baguazhang who used his bagua extensively in unarmed police work. Ma emphasized the importance of jing, and loss of essence through sex would seriously deplete one's internal strength. He seemed to favor celibacy . . . pity his poor wife. I mean, the guy talks about 100 days' abstinence just to return to normal, and years(!) before building up the jing to serious levels. I dunno. FWIW . . . you can read the interview at


05-17-2001, 03:43 AM
The principle of holding back your ejaculate (you still come but you dont shoot) can be trained in about 3 months. Do deep seat kegal exercises, tense the muscle as if your stopping a pee mid flow(try not to clench buttocks this is diff to begin with) hold for 30 seconds repeat for 10 mins, do this when ever you sat down watching tele or sat at a desk. when you next on the job so to speak just before eruption clench the same muscle, pressing the tongue on to the roof of the mouth(your own that is), can help, if you tongues not otherwise occupied.you ll produce little or no liquid (no its not an alternative to contraception it takes one swimmer to cross a channel, but less cleaning up ,no fighting about who sleeps in the damp patch) and the resulting feeling goes right through your body starting at the pit of the stomach to the back of you neck A1.
There is one draw back it will hurt to pee and flow will be poor for a good 4/5 hours, so perhaps it does do your kidneys like Abandit suggested, oh well only live once.
its not mystical i dont even think its taoist its not in Tao Te Ching.
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[This message was edited by PeeHoo on 05-17-01 at 06:51 PM.]

05-18-2001, 02:51 AM
Watch out for the three finger method. It can lead to things like cysts and worse. Keyword here is RETROGRADE ejaculation. Where it backs up into the bladder.

I believe true semen holding occurs in a absence of peristalis. In layterms, if its pumping, somethings going.

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05-18-2001, 07:18 AM
Um.. so what happens if it goes back to bladder/kidney?? Is your life threatened or ??

danny from miami
05-18-2001, 04:14 PM
ive had orgasms without jizzing because of my strong pc(from doing kegals). soo...should i stop doing that?why is it bad that its pumping but i hold the jizz in? i dont hold it in with my fingers. i hold it in by just tightening my pc

05-18-2001, 08:07 PM
If it goes into your bladder, which i assume mine does ("somethings pumping its going")the the results are as above in my previuous post on kegal, bad flow etc

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05-20-2001, 07:40 AM
I think the idea is that go you right up near the point of ejaculation and then draw things out until the orgasm and the ejaculation become separate separate events. You are not supposed to ejaculate and then try to hold it in. Bad..Bad..Bad.....

"If you are talking about sport that is one thing. But when you are talking about combat-as it is-well then, baby, you'd better train every part of your body" - Bruce Lee

05-20-2001, 07:22 PM
I'm sure thats tantric your describing, ithink the original post is refering to retrograde ejacluation(fire in not out)

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05-21-2001, 03:34 AM
Isnt orgasm and ejaculation same thing?

danny from miami
05-21-2001, 04:45 AM

05-22-2001, 05:06 AM
Dude, I never kenw there was sooo much to sex.

05-23-2001, 06:48 PM
PeeHoo- I posted the original post.

I agree with Turiyan. I think it has to happen without peristalsis. Peristalsis= successive waves of involuntary contraction passing along the walls of a hollow muscular structure (as the esophagus or intestine) and forcing the contents onward. So you orgasm, but you don't ejaculate. I've had some experience with this technique. You have to push yourself right up to the edge. In my book by Mantak Chia he says if ejaculation = 10 then orgasm = 9.8......you have to watch your breath very closely. If anyone wants more details on how to do it let me know.....

"If you are talking about sport that is one thing. But when you are talking about combat-as it is-well then, baby, you'd better train every part of your body" - Bruce Lee

[This message was edited by Fu-Pow on 05-24-01 at 09:59 AM.]

05-26-2001, 07:20 PM
Sorry i didn t check who posted it ,(no disrespect i think its a good subject)but you did word it as holding semen in. This sounds like retrograde rather than seperating orgasm and ej

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