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CeruleanRyuujin
11-04-2011, 11:10 PM
Can anyone tell me what branch this version of 8 Elbows is from?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6vRUN4SmpA
mooyingmantis
11-05-2011, 01:06 PM
Can anyone tell me what branch this version of 8 Elbows is from?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6vRUN4SmpA

It doesn't look like any of the Qixing, Taiji, or Taiji Meihua Tanglangquan families that I have seen.

My guess is that it is a new version.
CeruleanRyuujin
11-05-2011, 03:11 PM
It doesn't look like any of the Qixing, Taiji, or Taiji Meihua Tanglangquan families that I have seen.

My guess is that it is a new version.

That was my thoughts as well.

I have to say I like it's straight forward nature though.
mooyingmantis
11-05-2011, 06:58 PM
That was my thoughts as well.

I have to say I like it's straight forward nature though.

Actually, it is the way the performer uses his elbows that betrays the fact that this is not an "eight elbows" form. The term "eight elbows" refers to eight short striking methods used in tanglangquan, and not to eight specific elbow striking methods.
CeruleanRyuujin
11-06-2011, 11:19 PM
Actually, it is the way the performer uses his elbows that betrays the fact that this is not an "eight elbows" form. The term "eight elbows" refers to eight short striking methods used in tanglangquan, and not to eight specific elbow striking methods.

I am not disputing this, as I do not know the theory behind the form 8 Elbows, but in my opinion that just sounds all sorts of backwards lol
Paul T England
11-07-2011, 01:44 AM
I don't recall ever seeing that form before.

Does WHF and mainland branches have Yat Lo & Yee Lo Ba Zhou as well as the Eight Elbows Boxing Form?

Paul
mooyingmantis
11-08-2011, 03:32 PM
Paul,
As for Mainland Mantis, I can attest that Taiji Meihua Tanglangquan has four roads to their Ba Zhou.

Also, both Taiji Tanglangquan and Taiji Tanglangquan (CCK) have at least two roads to their Ba Zhou.
Tainan Mantis
11-09-2011, 05:59 AM
Paul,
As for Mainland Mantis, I can attest that Taiji Meihua Tanglangquan has four roads to their Ba Zhou.

Also, both Taiji Tanglangquan and Taiji Tanglangquan (CCK) have at least two roads to their Ba Zhou.

mor like 16, though it is hard to count.
You mean sections (duan) I think.
mooyingmantis
11-09-2011, 02:27 PM
mor like 16, though it is hard to count.
You mean sections (duan) I think.

Yes, I stand corrected. Thank you!

The proper term is 段 - duān - section.

As in: 第 一 段 八 肘 - dė yī duān bā zhǒu - First Section of Eight Elbows.
Tainan Mantis
11-09-2011, 08:07 PM
The proper term is 段 - duān - section.

As in: 第 一 段 八 肘 - dė yī duān bā zhǒu - First Section of Eight Elbows.

What program are you using for that?
I have NJ star and Pablo
mooyingmantis
11-10-2011, 01:37 PM
What program are you using for that?
I have NJ star and Pablo

Kevin,
I don't use any program for translating, just a dictionary. To place Chinese characters along with the pinyin in my posts, I copy and paste from the on-line dictionary at Mandarin Tools.

The phrase "第 一 段 八 肘" comes from Zhang Bingdou's book 太 极 梅 花 螳 螂 拳 下. The translation was my own.