View Full Version : US missiles 'hit Iranian village'
hskwarrior
12-22-2011, 01:52 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10147624
All of the conspiracy people like alex jones have said in the past now that we would be going into war with Iran and this would be the setting for WW3. Now, we allegedy shoot missiles at iran......and people like Alex Jones is really crazy? IDK about that. He's been on point with his guests about alot of issues taking place now.
It was nice knowing you guys ...........LOL
sanjuro_ronin
12-22-2011, 02:06 PM
Might makes right, isn't that how it goes?
Not sure why people think going to war with Iran is a good thing since the wars that the US is in right now have brought it to the brink of economic depression.
But hey, its only people's lives right?
Drake
12-22-2011, 02:40 PM
It would be even cooler if IT ACTUALLY EVEN HAPPENED.
Fake news. I'll admit, though...I was more worried when they faked Jon Bon Jovi's death.
word, bon jovi says heaven looks alot like jersey.
hey man, war with iran isn't an impossibility. alot of people have predicted war with iran. respected people with respected positions, not just talk show hosts. really, it's only a matter of time. three things can happen. in the not so distant future, that is.
#1 iran disarms and backs right off.
#2 a joint force removes the threat via violence
#3 while everyone talks talks and talks, iran finishes it's program and demonstrates the ability to deliver thus creating some breathing room.
will they nuke israel if they get the chance? prolly not, they aren't retarded and they know what that would mean. we would see a ton of posturing like you saw with US vs USSR or india vs pakistan.
the new weapon is economy people. it can cause more harm than any bomb can. it's how the ussr fell apart and its how the US is starting to fall apart.
Drake
12-22-2011, 05:34 PM
We're not going to war anytime soon (ie 15-20 years). Iran is going to become another NK style scenario, where we just beat them down diplomacy-style... over years and years and years....
I was JUST talking to someone about the stupid idea that since Iraq is over, people have it in their heads that we now have a "slot" open for another war. We don't. We were overextended. It's all over, folks, nothing to see here.
Without divulging anything sensitive... let's just say I am doing less and less, and my Afghan partners are doing more and more. The head intel dude flat out refused our help today. Now we just need about ten more folks here like him.
sanjuro_ronin
12-23-2011, 07:18 AM
We're not going to war anytime soon (ie 15-20 years). Iran is going to become another NK style scenario, where we just beat them down diplomacy-style... over years and years and years....
I was JUST talking to someone about the stupid idea that since Iraq is over, people have it in their heads that we now have a "slot" open for another war. We don't. We were overextended. It's all over, folks, nothing to see here.
Without divulging anything sensitive... let's just say I am doing less and less, and my Afghan partners are doing more and more. The head intel dude flat out refused our help today. Now we just need about ten more folks here like him.
Hope you are right, really do.
We're not going to war anytime soon (ie 15-20 years). Iran is going to become another NK style scenario, where we just beat them down diplomacy-style... over years and years and years....
I was JUST talking to someone about the stupid idea that since Iraq is over, people have it in their heads that we now have a "slot" open for another war. We don't. We were overextended. It's all over, folks, nothing to see here.
Without divulging anything sensitive... let's just say I am doing less and less, and my Afghan partners are doing more and more. The head intel dude flat out refused our help today. Now we just need about ten more folks here like him.
this would be nice.
yall shouldn't have been in iraq anyways. you got so many supporters slaughtered in '91 with bush sr empty promisses. from what i get from people immigrating to vancouver is that nobody ever really believed in the US policy and the trust just wasnt there, on either side. now you guys have left and the place is starting to fall apart already. good job.
i really hope afghans get a better deal. hopefully the right people step up. but again, you can't really blame these folks for not trusting any of the so called "allies"... i think afghans will be alot better off than iraqis. iraq is americas mess, whereas afghanistan is the problem of many nations, some of which will not turn their backs so easily when the pullout is complete.
i'm sort of torn on this one though. i really think we need to start putting all this foriegn aid back into our own backyard before we lose our quality of life all together.
do people really believe there is a "slot open"?
it's so sad there are people that stupid out there. i never meet these people. where they at?
@PLUGO
02-07-2012, 05:52 PM
Meet Iran’s 3,500-Woman-Strong Ninja Army (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/02/irans-ninja-army/)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10147624
All of the conspiracy people like alex jones have said in the past now that we would be going into war with Iran and this would be the setting for WW3. Now, we allegedy shoot missiles at iran......and people like Alex Jones is really crazy? IDK about that. He's been on point with his guests about alot of issues taking place now.
It was nice knowing you guys ...........LOL
Man I can make a list of wrong predictions from that guy for days. I'm not going to. But there are even sites that dedicate themselves to holding dudes like jones to their words and shows where they are right and wrong. Google should be enough to find one, there are many....
Oh, and the missile thing never actually happened, you know this right?
David Jamieson
02-08-2012, 09:06 AM
pretty sure that would be in ALL the news and not in a tinfoil dumping ground...
just sayin... lol
WingChunABQ
02-08-2012, 10:17 AM
Might makes right, isn't that how it goes?
Not sure why people think going to war with Iran is a good thing since the wars that the US is in right now have brought it to the brink of economic depression.
But hey, its only people's lives right?
Exactly. And while this particular case is fake news, the discussion itself is most definitely on the table, at least for Israel:
http://www.npr.org/2012/02/08/146545243/5-reasons-why-israel-might-bomb-iran-or-not
Obama seems a bit less interested in rattling this particular saber, but I wouldn't doubt a U.S. military response if things escalated even more in that particular part of the world.
Well that lil naval thing they got going on right now is sure real. And there was the recent talk of Israel moving on Irans nuke program before this so called window of opportunity closes up. That's not just resources but people with the knowledge that will be hit. And Panetta came right out and talked about it. That could mean many things, may be mis-direction or simply a preemptive push against Israeli strikes that are forecasted by the US. But we can't ignore that Israel may move on Iran soon and that would have dire implications for everyone with any interest in the Middle east what so ever.
Obama seems a bit less interested in rattling this particular saber, but I wouldn't doubt a U.S. military response if things escalated even more in that particular part of the world.
No drama Obama doesn't rattle a saber at anyone ever. He puts up a fake strong front then caves time and time again.
If there was ever a reason for military aid and/or intervention it is in Syria. But Assad doesn't cause much trouble for Israel and there is NO OIL there. So we watch them get slaughtered while going thru the UN knowing full well China and Russia will VETO anything to do with helping Syrian citizens achieve a real democracy. The US goes to Iraq at the drop of a hat but not Syria? That's weak sauce for sure. And now the US has over extended itself so far that it probably CAN'T help Syria without some coalition. Even the Arab League wants this resolution for tougher sanctions and we can't even give them that. No wonder they hate us. We are serious as$holes when it comes to who we aid and what we expect in return for that aid. All it does is breed more hatred and sypathy for anyone speaking against us which in turn hurts our security. Our forieng Policy breeds terrorism, both directly and indirectly.
Oh and about Iran. Even if the US wanted to go into Iran they couldn't. Not enough free resources. Already way over extended.
David Jamieson
02-09-2012, 12:14 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about war. the Russians and the Chinese told everyone to sit down and shut up about it. This regards Syria as well.
So they did and they will continue to do so.
Iran has big bodyguards. Nobody can stand against them both. Even one would leave both sides bleeding hard.
Let's not forget that everything we unwashed proles hear about it is pure unmitigated garbage propaganda spun by weasels in think tanks.
mostly crap with a grain of truth here and there in order to sell it to us self absorbed idiots. :p
the Russians and the Chinese will never let the Americans and the Brits and their allies have control of the middle east carte blanche.
It ain't gonna happen, so don't even wish for it.
Drake
02-09-2012, 12:16 PM
DJ, I reckon you are referring to the economic damage, not kinetic fighting. China won't fight us over Iran, and neither will Russia.
Not that China has to. They can easily apply economic and trade pressure to get their way.
sanjuro_ronin
02-09-2012, 12:21 PM
DJ, I reckon you are referring to the economic damage, not kinetic fighting. China won't fight us over Iran, and neither will Russia.
Not that China has to. They can easily apply economic and trade pressure to get their way.
I think that, right now, it is only the US that is under the illusion that military might is a good weapon to use in foreign policy.
Russia may use it on its "former members" to remind them who is the bear and China may use their numbers for intimidation, but neither sees a profit in war ( outside of arming other nations of course).
That "new" capitalist-communist thing.
David Jamieson
02-09-2012, 12:33 PM
The Americans have fought proxy wars with both Russia and China since WW2
China - Korea/Vietnam
Russia- Afghanistan
And no doubt plenty of covert ops here and there around the world.
Such is the game these people play.
When they do it correctly, nobody has a clue what was done.
yes, we have been embroiled in hard economic warfare for more than a decade now.
yes, we are proles.
DJ, I reckon you are referring to the economic damage, not kinetic fighting. China won't fight us over Iran, and neither will Russia.
Not that China has to. They can easily apply economic and trade pressure to get their way.
I think you may also want to explain what a proxy war is to the kids. Syria could be just that. Probably not, but it's worth considering. I can't see anyone other than the Israelis invading Iran anytime soon. And that would be a mess and a half if it did happen. We'll see what happens with this "window of opportunity".
EDIT: didnt see DJ's post when I mentioned the proxy thang. Never mind then....
I think that, right now, it is only the US that is under the illusion that military might is a good weapon to use in foreign policy.
Russia may use it on its "former members" to remind them who is the bear and China may use their numbers for intimidation, but neither sees a profit in war ( outside of arming other nations of course).
That "new" capitalist-communist thing.
And we just signed a deal 18 years in the making. A deal that I do not like at all. I read something earlier that I thought was very apt. "I don't have a problem with selling oil I just have a problem selling them the ground it comes from leaving Canada with no leverage..."
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