Stun gun in street fight

[YouKnowWho]

I got this 2 kind of stun guns as my Christmas gift.

- Has anybody used it before?
- How effect is it in street fight?
- How many guys can you put down without recharge it again?
- Is it legal to carry?

Please share your experience.

http://www.trueswords.com/stun-flashlight-impact-weapon-combo-rechargeable-p-5242.html

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.safetyprotectiontechnology.com/files/2096173/uploaded/ZAPBK950.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.safetyprotectiontechnology.com/&h=325&w=270&sz=16&tbnid=qrpNOBRjTcS_JM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=75&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dstun%2Bgun%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=stun+gun&docid=6ugEqN5Otp6HkM&sa=X&ei=Btr4To2xL4Xg2QWki8SpAg&ved=0CLcBEPUBMAc

[Hebrew Hammer]

Stun guns are for girls...there is only one true way to test its effectiveness: Shoot yourself in the nuts and if its still ineffective because of your iron crotch training...try again while standing in 6 inches of water in the bathtub.

Seriously who gives someone a stun gun for Xmas? Isn't that an oxymoron? Why would you need one? If you carried one why are you training in martial arts? I suppose you should just carry pepper spray too.

And to answer your question, its mostly pretty highly effective, our security guys use them in the ER for patients who are extremely violent and on PCP or some other unknown combination of street drugs. I have heard of cases where they have to tase them twice...there are people who can be resistant to it. Ask the cops. That being said it usually has to be used at close range and someone who is relatively stationary. You get one or two shots...

Wasn't there a story about someone tasing a fan at football game over not standing for the national anthem?

[hskwarrior]

Shoot yourself in the nuts and if its still ineffective because of your iron crotch training..

that reminds me of "I bet your hand is bigger than your face" LMAO

[YouKnowWho]

Seriously who gives someone a stun gun for Xmas? Isn't that an oxymoron? Why would you need one? If you carried one why are you training in martial arts? I suppose you should just carry pepper spray too.

I assume whoever gave me those Christmas gifts assumed I live in a violent part of US, and also my TCMA skill suck.

I also had pepper spray as my Christmas present before. The one that can shot 15 to 20 feet.

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?rlz=1V3IPYX_enUS463&q=pepper+spray&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=1207300772806553083&sa=X&ei=cOz4Tsf7KKqKsQLXndHwDA&ved=0CKYBEPICMAQ#

One year I even had bulletproof vest as my Christmas gift. The one that has a metal plate on the chest.

http://www.amazon.com/Bulletproof-Vest-Level-IIIA-Large/dp/B003M5YGFA

[Hebrew Hammer]

So how many times have you used either of those on the street? I can certainly see using these items if you owned a jewelry store or convenience/liquor store...maybe you do. I can tell you from personal experience that pepper spray is totally worthless in a Zombie Apocalypse scenario. Not sure if the stun gun works on zombies...a worthy endeavor to find out.

[YouKnowWho]

Last time I was in the Glacier National Park on the trail near Many Glaciers, a grizzly bear passed by me no more that 20 feet away. I had my Colt 45 in my right hand and my powerful pepper spray on my left hand.

I used my bulletproof vest as my chest protection during spar. It works pretty good. Only wear a couple of times when I needed to settle down some small matters with people.

[Hebrew Hammer]

Last time I was in the Glacier National Park on the trail near Many Glaciers, a grizzly bear passed by me no more that 20 feet away. I had my Colt 45 in my right hand and my powerful pepper spray on my left hand.

I used my bulletproof vest as my chest protection during spar. It works pretty good. Only wear a couple of times when I needed to settle down some small matters with people.

As someone who lived in Tahoe and had bears come on my porch or seeing them on trails, I wouldn't recommend using the stun gun on the Grizzly, but that's just me. Pepper spray as last resort, if it's a mother with cubs forget it. Better off waving your arms standing fully upright and firing the 45 in the air.

I do like the idea of sparring with the bear while wearing the vest. Good way to test your Chin Na skills.

[taai gihk yahn]

So wait, let me get this straight: u had a score to settle with a zombie bear who had once pepper sprayed u in Tahoe, so you used the metal insert of your bullet proof vest as a mirror so that u cud c the bear but not get turned to stone by its gaze, and then u Tasered it in the testicles while it was standing in 6" of water;

cool...


edit: u may want to take this quiz bef u fight ur nxt bear:
http://theoatmeal.com/quiz/bear_balls

[-N-]

So wait, let me get this straight: u had a score to settle with a zombie bear who had once pepper sprayed u in Tahoe, so you used the metal insert of your bullet proof vest as a mirror so that u cud c the bear but not get turned to stone by its gaze, and then u Tasered it in the testicles while it was standing in 6" of water;

cool...


edit: u may want to take this quiz bef u fight ur nxt bear:
http://theoatmeal.com/quiz/bear_balls

While hanging from a tree. Don't forget that :)

[Drake]

What bulletproof vests use metal?

[YouKnowWho]

What bulletproof vests use metal?
You can put a metal plate in for extra protection. You can also take it out.

[Drake]

Protection from what? Polymer-based and ceramic plates work much better.

[Hebrew Hammer]

It helps with conducting electricity...if you're gonna use a stun gun/taser on someone wearing a bullet proof vest, you want them to have a metal plate on the front. Plus its very good against grizzly bear attacks to the torso.

Titanium plate: Never feel insecure in your platemail again.

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?rls=com.microsoft:en-us&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&q=metal+plate+armor&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=3604331155793128803&sa=X&ei=iy_5TqWIBOqFiAKb8fSwDg&ved=0CHwQ8wIwCw#

[YouKnowWho]

Protection from what? Polymer-based and ceramic plates work much better.

The one that I have has a metal plate that I can put in and take out. I have never test it with my own firearm. I have always believed that extra metal plate can give me more protection.

[Dragonzbane76]

Aren't the "dragon scale" vest ceramic Drake? They cost a god aweful amount of money is about the only thing I know of them.

[TenTigers]

if it comes with a removable plate, it should also come with a spoon, fork and knife.
I mean, we're talkin' survival here, right?

[YouKnowWho]

Plus its very good against grizzly bear attacks to the torso.

I just found a new spear head that I can attach on my hiking stick in case grizzly bear attack. The spear head is round shape. It weight about 1 and 1/2 lb. Very solid.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7500/spearheadg.jpg

[SPJ]

I got this 2 kind of stun guns as my Christmas gift.

- Has anybody used it before?
- How effect is it in street fight?
- How many guys can you put down without recharge it again?
- Is it legal to carry?

Please share your experience.

http://www.trueswords.com/stun-flashlight-impact-weapon-combo-rechargeable-p-5242.html

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.safetyprotectiontechnology.com/files/2096173/uploaded/ZAPBK950.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.safetyprotectiontechnology.com/&h=325&w=270&sz=16&tbnid=qrpNOBRjTcS_JM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=75&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dstun%2Bgun%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=stun+gun&docid=6ugEqN5Otp6HkM&sa=X&ei=Btr4To2xL4Xg2QWki8SpAg&ved=0CLcBEPUBMAc

stun gun is better.

meaning you may point and shoot at a distance.

if you are close enough to be able to make a contact, then all of your open hand skills may apply. no need to stun any more.

personally

I like marbles or pebbles.

I like bamboo sticks, too.

These were widely available, when I was a kid in 1960s.

You may sling or throw a pebble at a distance and run.

If you have a sling shot with you, it is even better.

Throwing rocks or pebbles was my first "weapon" training.

I may even hunt with them.

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:)

[Drake]

Ceramic is the norm, and even those have variations. Some can stop an AK, some can stop AP rounds. Polymer is for the $$ folks, but it can be much thinner and lighter. Metal... never heard of it, and it wouldn't seem to make much sense...at all.

And you can't just take it out back and shoot it to see if it works. When you shoot a plate, it needs to be replaced. It won't work twice.

I know dragon scale got into a big debate with the gov't, because they failed our ballistics tests when heat was factored in. They swear by their products, and I think it was more of a $$ issue than one of quality.

I'm calling BS on the metal plates, though. Sorry, man... doesn't even begin to pass the sniff test.

For those of you who are interested, here's some very informative data on modern armor... should answer the questions better than I can.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletproof_vest

[Yao Sing]

Wikipedia isn't the best source of info.

"Also included: a metal plate to protect the heart from blunt trauma." (http://www.controlelectronic.com/bulletproof.htm)

Seems steel plates are used for Level III protection. Ceramic for Level IV.
http://www.bulletproofme.com/Body_Armor_Accessories_Rifle_Protection.shtml

[Lee Chiang Po]

Vests stink if you get shot in the head or leg. The best pepper spray to carry is the big one used for grizzly bears, and a stun gun will lay out a bunch of dudes. If you are walking along and see a gang of guys that make you nervous, take no chances with them. Walk up and let them all have it point blank with the bear spray right in the face and then pop each one in the a$$ with the stun gun. You might even pop them in the head a few times too. See if you can make them into zombies.
About 20 years ago I bought stun guns for a bit over $4 each and sold them for however much I could get for them. I sold a truck load of them too. I think a good average I got was about $35. I sold one to a friend that had just broken up with his girlfriend. He took his new hen to a local highschool football game his son was playing in, and his old girl friend seen them and started hassling them. She was trying to start a fight with his new girl, slapping at his face and calling him names and saying embarrising stuff. When the game started he went to the john, which was under the bleachers, and walked up under her and popped her in her big fat behind. Paramedics thought she was having an epileptic seasure and took her off in an ambulance. She couldn't even speak for a good 20 minutes. So they are pretty good to have I guess. She likely didn't have any idea what had happened to her either.

[Hebrew Hammer]

Ceramic is the norm, and even those have variations. Some can stop an AK, some can stop AP rounds. Polymer is for the $$ folks, but it can be much thinner and lighter. Metal... never heard of it, and it wouldn't seem to make much sense...at all.

And you can't just take it out back and shoot it to see if it works. When you shoot a plate, it needs to be replaced. It won't work twice.

I know dragon scale got into a big debate with the gov't, because they failed our ballistics tests when heat was factored in. They swear by their products, and I think it was more of a $$ issue than one of quality.

I'm calling BS on the metal plates, though. Sorry, man... doesn't even begin to pass the sniff test.

For those of you who are interested, here's some very informative data on modern armor... should answer the questions better than I can.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletproof_vest

That was an interesting and political debate and mostly likely $$$ something involving kickbacks/contracts...I think the armor performed great from the tests I saw.

[YouKnowWho]

Vests stink if you get shot in the head or leg.
That's why you need to wear military helmet and "bulletproof underwear".

http://news.discovery.com/tech/marine-corps-orders-bulletproof-underwear-110418.html

If you can use your bed mattress to make a shield, pour water on it. With "spikes ring" on all your fingers, you will have a set of solid combat equipment.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1913/spikesring.jpg

[bawang]

you should tape the stun gun to your wrist. it looks cooler that way. get 2 then u look like intergalactic assassin

[Yoshiyahu]

I got a bullet proof cup...Please dont stun gun me there..metal is a natural conductor you know~


As for Zombie attack...Well I would be suited and booted...Wing Chun Short SWords...

Samurai sword....


Metal Baseball bat for incase samuri swords breaks...

A few wooden baseball bats....


Of course I would have shotguns with exploding rounds, grenades, and and my trusty AK-47 with incineray bullets!

My main weapons would be samuria sword, baseball bat and short swords.


time to chop off some neckS!

[bawang]

As for Zombie attack...Well I would be suited and booted...Wing Chun Short SWords...


the only use a wing chun man has for his sword is prolly like that fujian folk story, where a man raped his pig then ate it, then the pigs spirit begged a god to make that man gay, then he put a sword up his ass and died.

[Yoshiyahu]

the only use a wing chun man has for his sword is prolly like that fujian folk story, where a man raped his pig then ate it, then the pigs spirit begged a god to make that man gay, then he put a sword up his ass and died.



AWWW in a Zombi attack i wont be using a gun as my only means offense buddy...

Plus i have a wooden boken in my room as we speak..an three sectional staff and long pole, short swords and nunchuks...but i will stick with the samurai sword in a Zombie fall out when out side...

[bawang]

im not worried. zombies only eat white people.

[Lucas]

im not worried. zombies only eat white people.

and 1 black guy

[GeneChing]

Seriously, they were these commie/khaki green units with a little red star on them. Hmm, almost Xma$ colored, now that I think of it. I regret not buying one. At the time, I remember thinking that given the level of Chinese craftsmanship available in some of those old Shaolin village tourist stalls, it would probably electrocute me. Buying stun guns isn't like buying swords. You can't hold one and judge its quality. You gotta zap someone.

[Syn7]

I got this 2 kind of stun guns as my Christmas gift.

- Has anybody used it before?
- How effect is it in street fight?
- How many guys can you put down without recharge it again?
- Is it legal to carry?

Please share your experience.

http://www.trueswords.com/stun-flashlight-impact-weapon-combo-rechargeable-p-5242.html

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.safetyprotectiontechnology.com/files/2096173/uploaded/ZAPBK950.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.safetyprotectiontechnology.com/&h=325&w=270&sz=16&tbnid=qrpNOBRjTcS_JM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=75&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dstun%2Bgun%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=stun+gun&docid=6ugEqN5Otp6HkM&sa=X&ei=Btr4To2xL4Xg2QWki8SpAg&ved=0CLcBEPUBMAc

only way to know is to try it... i can think of a few ways to test the longevity of the weapon without zapping yourself. a friend of mine had a handheld one. it wasn't that bad. it hurt but it didn't put any of us down. i can't remember how strong it was tho. what i do know is that it takes next to no energy to stop your heart. technically you could kill with a small watch battery. tasers are a bad idea. i appreciate the idea, but it's a bad one. atleast if non-lethal is still the goal. there are better things. like proper training and some cajones, to start.

[Yoshiyahu]

im not worried. zombies only eat white people.

good thing im not white lol!

[Lokhopkuen]

Old style vests had a metal trauma plate, $15 on this site :D

http://www.bulletproofme.com/Body_Armor_Accessories_Concealable.shtml#Trauma_Pl ates


Ceramic is the norm, and even those have variations. Some can stop an AK, some can stop AP rounds. Polymer is for the $$ folks, but it can be much thinner and lighter. Metal... never heard of it, and it wouldn't seem to make much sense...at all.

And you can't just take it out back and shoot it to see if it works. When you shoot a plate, it needs to be replaced. It won't work twice.

I know dragon scale got into a big debate with the gov't, because they failed our ballistics tests when heat was factored in. They swear by their products, and I think it was more of a $$ issue than one of quality.

I'm calling BS on the metal plates, though. Sorry, man... doesn't even begin to pass the sniff test.

For those of you who are interested, here's some very informative data on modern armor... should answer the questions better than I can.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletproof_vest

[Yoshiyahu]

is that a naked alien or god on your avatar?



Old style vests had a metal trauma plate, $15 on this site :D

http://www.bulletproofme.com/Body_Armor_Accessories_Concealable.shtml#Trauma_Pl ates

[Lokhopkuen]

is that a naked alien or god on your avatar?

What's the difference;)