Dan Hardy Patrick Barry not TCMA

[Ray Pina]

Dan Hardy (listed as BJJ, Muay Thai and Taekwon do)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Hardy

Patrick Barry (listed as kickboxing)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Barry_(martial_artist)

Barry is interesting, because its clear he started with Russell Jones Kick boxing and now pursues kick boxing full time with Shawn Liu.

He has competed and dominated in San Shau in China apprently.

He does not claim Wing Chun, Hung Gar, Low Gar, etc, etc. as his primary style. It's kick boxing.

[Ray Pina]

Closing threads and making personal attacks are weak = weak, fearful kung fu men.... don't like to deal with outside world.

Typical.

[Ray Pina]

Also interesting to note that Barry has different coaches for wrestling, striking and BJJ. Imagine that.

[Drake]

Closing threads and making personal attacks are weak = weak, fearful kung fu men.... don't like to deal with outside world.

Typical.

Insulting the decisions of admins = Short lifespan on a forum

[Snipsky]

Barry is interesting, because its clear he started with Russell Jones Kick boxing and now pursues kick boxing full time with Shawn Liu.

He has competed and dominated in San Shau in China apprently.

He does not claim Wing Chun, Hung Gar, Low Gar, etc, etc. as his primary style. It's kick boxing.

you're such a loser LMAO. NON UFC fighter you. LMAO

[Pork Chop]

Dan Hardy (listed as BJJ, Muay Thai and Taekwon do)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Hardy

Patrick Barry (listed as kickboxing)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Barry_(martial_artist)

Barry is interesting, because its clear he started with Russell Jones Kick boxing and now pursues kick boxing full time with Shawn Liu.

He has competed and dominated in San Shau in China apprently.

He does not claim Wing Chun, Hung Gar, Low Gar, etc, etc. as his primary style. It's kick boxing.

Dan Hardy (http://thegarv.com/Must-See-Dan-Hardy-Training-with-the-Shaolin-Monks.html)

Pat Barry (http://youtu.be/aiuMRwmUXRE)

I provide video proof, you provide wiki articles...

EDIT: Hardy vid got removed. Here's more:
http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55693
http://youtu.be/Vj7q3lRZ3DU

Are you really bringing up the point that TCMA is useless because TCMA fighters in MMA have multiple coaches?
If that's the case, then boxing's useless - it's never won in MMA without crosstraining.
BJJ must be useless too if Royce crosstrained in TKD for his stand-up.

[Lucas]

Ray, have you looked up teiquan zhang yet?

[Lucas]

Dan Hardy (http://thegarv.com/Must-See-Dan-Hardy-Training-with-the-Shaolin-Monks.html)

Pat Barry (http://youtu.be/aiuMRwmUXRE)

I provide video proof, you provide wiki articles...

EDIT: Hardy vid got removed. Here's more:
http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55693
http://youtu.be/Vj7q3lRZ3DU

Are you really bringing up the point that TCMA is useless because TCMA fighters in MMA have multiple coaches?
If that's the case, then boxing's useless - it's never won in MMA without crosstraining.
BJJ must be useless too if Royce crosstrained in TKD for his stand-up.

ya bro its a total straw man. Kung fu doesnt get to cross train like all other styles. Didntnu know that

[Lucas]

Ray, have you looked up teiquan zhang yet?

ill be waiting patiently just like every other time uv never responded to any cma mma fighters ive linked, ray....this is one of many ive linked for uou that you always conveniently ignore. In fact im expectinh you to ignore this, just like always.

[Dragonzbane76]

don't know why you would say it's useless or dead ray. There are gems in every traditional practice. Some you have to dig deep to find but they are still there non the less.

[Yao Sing]

You can't erase a persons past even though they list generic "kickboxing" as their style. I believe that just means "unspecified" or "general" martial arts and pretty much includes eveything.

I don't see kickboxing (varied backgrounds) or MMA (varied backgrounds) as styles, just a type of sport fighting.

[GeneChing]

Here's our Pat Barry thread (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52930). Pork Chop picked up our Dan Hardy thread above.