The crazy thing with TCMA forum members...

[MightyB]

is -

I train in a bunch of different places. I train with MMA people, boxing people, Judo people, BJJ people, wrestlers, and Kung Fu People.

Personally I'm Kung Fu and Judo (Kung Fudo - or Ju-Fu... not sure what I prefer)... anyway - the people that are training in these places don't obsess about this is this style and that is this and we do this nearly as much as forum posters. Heck, what most are interested in are innovative solutions to common problems. Guys will ask in BJJ "hey, you got a takedown for when someone does this?" and I'll say "here's one from Judo" or a Judo guy will say "what was that cool thing you were doing?... diu sau???"

It's the same when someone puts me into some new hold - I care more about learning the hold than all the other nonsense that gets brought up on this forum.

[Pork Chop]

This forum needs a way to upvote....
At the end of the day every fighter (traditional, street, sport) should be working on what works for them and figuring out how to stop what's working against them.

[Yao Sing]

I haven't gotten around that much but I only see this attitude on the forum, not in the real world. I asked Pat Barry about trainng with Shawn Liu and he mentioned he just spoke with him recently so he doesn't have a problem with CMA.

Other guys I've worked with that train MMA view me as just another martial artist. When a friend owned The Scrapyard in Orlando (full contact kickboxing) I was invited to do a half-time show and called back again to judge some fights.

It's only the whackos that show up here. Why, I have no idea.

[Lucas]

My kung fudo brudda!

[Dragonzbane76]

is -

I train in a bunch of different places. I train with MMA people, boxing people, Judo people, BJJ people, wrestlers, and Kung Fu People.

Personally I'm Kung Fu and Judo (Kung Fudo - or Ju-Fu... not sure what I prefer)... anyway - the people that are training in these places don't obsess about this is this style and that is this and we do this nearly as much as forum posters. Heck, what most are interested in are innovative solutions to common problems. Guys will ask in BJJ "hey, you got a takedown for when someone does this?" and I'll say "here's one from Judo" or a Judo guy will say "what was that cool thing you were doing?... diu sau???"

It's the same when someone puts me into some new hold - I care more about learning the hold than all the other nonsense that gets brought up on this forum.

It's the same where I teach and where I go train. Mixture of people trying to figure out the best counters and techniques.

[David Jamieson]

It's the same where I teach and where I go train. Mixture of people trying to figure out the best counters and techniques.

That's how it is everywhere that people gather to learn anything. Students and teachers alike. Teachers especially dig any learning moment they can get for themselves when it happens. It's awesome.

[YouKnowWho]

I used to have a gang of 4. A TKD guy (Sandy Nash), a Hapkido guy (Donny Brown), an Okinawa Karate guy (John Ray), and a Kung Fu guy (myself) (MMA was not born yet). We sparred everyday and had a lot of fun. My TKD friend learned forms from me and I learn TKD kicks from him. I also has a professional MT guy as my sparring partner. I learned roundhouse kicks, elbow, and flying knee from him and my MT friend learned joint locking from me. We always compare the "similarity". We had never said, "My style does differently than your style does."

This forum is very funny. Some people like to start a thread and talk about

- kick,
- Fajin,
- weapons,
- footwork and stance exercise,

in his own style section. As if he only cares about opinions from people of his own style and not from people of different styles.

[SPJ]

kung fu is very general term in chinese

if you are good at BJJ or JJJ

then you have kung fu in BJJ or JJJ

if you are good at playing piano or cooking

then you have gong fu in them.

something or skills that take time to develop or be good at

it takes gong fu.

etc etc

[Syn7]

I used to have a gang of 4. A TKD guy (Sandy Nash), a Hapkido guy (Donny Brown), an Okinawa Karate guy (John Ray), and a Kung Fu guy (myself) (MMA was not born yet). We sparred everyday and had a lot of fun. My TKD friend learned forms from me and I learn TKD kicks from him. I also has a professional MT guy as my sparring partner. I learned roundhouse kicks, elbow, and flying knee from him and my MT friend learned joint locking from me. We always compare the "similarity". We had never said, "My style does differently than your style does."

This forum is very funny. Some people like to start a thread and talk about

- kick,
- Fajin,
- weapons,
- footwork and stance exercise,

in his own style section. As if he only cares about opinions from people of his own style and not from people of different styles.


People who are out to show difference are not out to learn. They're there for their own ego. People who share similarities are there to learn.
Also, those who are only interested in hearing about what they do are usually out for validation. Generally, that is. Of course when dealing with the psyche it's never black and white and we all fit into each category at one time or another.

[SPJ]

actually, kung fu people and many other arts people are open to things out side of their styles

whatever works works.

however, judo and aikido people are kind of a closed society with rank and file etc

:(

[dirtyrat]

actually, kung fu people and many other arts people are open to things out side of their styles

whatever works works.

however, judo and aikido people are kind of a closed society with rank and file etc

:(

i can attest to that. when i took up judo, we were not allowed to talk about other MAs at all during class

[YouKnowWho]

kung fu people and many other arts people are open to things out side of their styles ...
You had posted a MT training clip before. In that clip, the instructor showed the roundhouse kick to the head should be a 45 degree "downward" curve instead of a 45 degree "upward" curve. The "downward" curve roundhouse kick just doesn't exist in TCMA. It's easy to train the "upward" curve. It's not easy to train the "downward" curve. If we always try to maintain "pure", we will never be able to improve ourselves.

[MightyB]

You had posted a MT training clip before. In that clip, the instructor showed the roundhouse kick to the head should be a 45 degree "downward" curve instead of a 45 degree "upward" curve. The "downward" curve roundhouse kick just doesn't exist in TCMA. It's easy to train the "upward" curve. It's not easy to train the "downward" curve. If we always try to maintain "pure", we will never be able to improve ourselves.

The angle would change based on effectiveness (evolution) and still stay within the framework of a style without degrading the "purity" of the style.

Evolution within a style happens.

[MightyB]

actually, kung fu people and many other arts people are open to things out side of their styles

whatever works works.

however, judo and aikido people are kind of a closed society with rank and file etc

:(

Not the Judo where I'm from. You routinely see incorporation of Sambo, wrestling, and BJJ. Modern Judo competition has a strict set of rules that always "tries" to favor the Kodokan and Japanese players. That's frustrating. For example, you can no longer attack the legs directly with initial moves such as the single leg and double leg takedown or Kata Garuma and you cannot close the guard. This is IMHO because of the success of the Russians and French in international competition and a growing fear of American Newaza specialists.