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WingChunABQ
02-20-2012, 10:32 PM
Is it just me, or is this one of the most underrated concepts in Wing Chun? You see it in every form, it's applications seem endless and the principle is profound.

wingchunIan
02-21-2012, 05:36 AM
under rated by who? as you say its in all of the forms

WingChunABQ
02-21-2012, 07:54 AM
Underrated as in it doesn't seem to get much attention/discussion.

When I look at quite a few of the WC practices and applications, it pops up everywhere. For me, it's kind of a central idea to the system.

YouKnowWho
02-21-2012, 12:12 PM
it's kind of a central idea to the system.

In

- striking, you always want to achieve "head on collision".
- throwing, you always want to achieve "rear end collision".

It's general TCMA principle and apply to all styles.

Lee Chiang Po
02-21-2012, 12:19 PM
describe what you are speaking of.

Lee Chiang Po
02-21-2012, 04:50 PM
describe what you are speaking of.

YouKnowWho
02-21-2012, 05:08 PM
describe what you are speaking of.

In

- striking, you want to pull your opponent into your punch.
- throwing, you want to borrow your opponent's force and add your force along the same direction.

If X is your force and Y is your opponent's force then X + Y > X.

Vajramusti
02-21-2012, 06:22 PM
In

- striking, you want to pull your opponent into your punch.
- throwing, you want to borrow your opponent's force and add your force along the same direction.

If X is your force and Y is your opponent's force then X + Y > X.
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a good distinction.

joy chaudhuri

anerlich
02-21-2012, 07:27 PM
It's general TCMA principle and apply to all styles.

As well as the examples quoted above, it's prevalent in grappling grip breaks and weapon disarms inside and outside of TMA.

I don't know if its underrated as much as so pervasive as to be assumed.

WingChunABQ
02-22-2012, 10:28 AM
As well as the examples quoted above, it's prevalent in grappling grip breaks and weapon disarms inside and outside of TMA.

I don't know if its underrated as much as so pervasive as to be assumed.

Chin na and submission holds too seem to work off of the principle - moving things in opposing directions to achieve an effect.

LoneTiger108
02-22-2012, 01:06 PM
One of our first lines is Gaan Sau Toi Wun, which roughly means 'cultivate the hands to push and revolve'.