John Carter

[Lucas]

I normally do not go to the movie theatre, let alone to disney movies. I had not heard of this John Carter, yet at the urging of my friend I went to check this out. We ended up watching a 3d (my second 3d movie ever) on an IMAX screen. I have to say this was quite a visually stunning movie, strewn with comedy and action (the leading female is quite the strong eye full as well), as well as some very stunning digital animation.

If you have considered checking it out, its a good movie, and appropriate for the whole family as well.

The Avenger preview looked SIIIICCCKKKK!!!

does this qualify as a sword hottie ?

http://www.movie-moron.com/wp-content/gallery/review/john-carter-review-3.jpg

[Lucas]

http://pixartimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/john-carter-of-mars.jpg

http://smhttp.14409.nexcesscdn.net/806D5E/wordpress-live/images/John-Carter-Mondo-Poster-e1331301370671.jpg

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2012/01/26/john-carter_320.jpg

[jdhowland]

I will take my family to see this later in the week. Read the book when I was a teenager. No fond memories of it, but this looks pretty entertaining.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I normally do not go to the movie theatre, let alone to disney movies. I had not heard of this John Carter, yet at the urging of my friend I went to check this out. We ended up watching a 3d (my second 3d movie ever) on an IMAX screen. I have to say this was quite a visually stunning movie, strewn with comedy and action (the leading female is quite the strong eye full as well), as well as some very stunning digital animation.

If you have considered checking it out, its a good movie, and appropriate for the whole family as well.

The Avenger preview looked SIIIICCCKKKK!!!



Got ask, do they curtail or limit Thor's powers somehow ?

[GeneChing]

does this qualify as a sword hottie ?The *real* Dejah Thoris was one of the great sword hotties. Of course, she walked around nekkid all of the time and thought clothes were demeaning. I assume she's clothed in this new Disney version. :rolleyes:

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/022/1/7/dejah_thoris_2_by_paulrenaud-d37sw00.jpg

[Lucas]

Got ask, do they curtail or limit Thor's powers somehow ?

not exactly sure. but im pretty sure thor is where he left off in his stand alone movie.

[Lucas]

The *real* Dejah Thoris was one of the great sword hotties. Of course, she walked around nekkid all of the time and thought clothes were demeaning. I assume she's clothed in this new Disney version. :rolleyes:

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/022/1/7/dejah_thoris_2_by_paulrenaud-d37sw00.jpg

you are correct in your assumptions, in fact, there is a scene in which she is wearing something more revealing and makes mention of it...:(

[GeneChing]

JOHN CARTER Box Office: Domestic Flop / Overseas Hit (http://www.altfg.com/blog/movie/john-carter-box-office-domestic-foreign/)
Zac Gille | Mar 18, 2012

John Carter has definitely flopped in North America, where the Disney release has collected only $13.51 million this weekend, March 16-18 — down an alarming 55% from a week ago according to studio estimates found at Box Office Mojo. Directed by WALL-E's Andrew Stanton and featuring Taylor Kitsch, Lynn Collins, and Willem Dafoe, John Carter's North American gross currently stands at $53.17 million. The sci-fier / adventure / fantasy reportedly cost an astronomical $250 million, in addition to an estimated $100 million in marketing and distribution expenses in North America alone.

That's the bad news. In fact, the really, really bad news for a studio that last year had to cope with a box-office disaster named Mars Needs Moms. Perhaps Disney should stay forever away from any more Mars-set adventures — even if the studio chooses to drop the planet's name from their films' titles, as was the case with John Carter.

Now, the good news is that overseas John Carter has been performing quite well. Though down 40% from last weekend, Stanton's film topped the international box office with an estimated $40.7 million in 54 territories according to The Hollywood Reporter. John Carter's international cume to date is $126.1 million, thus lifting its worldwide total to a not-unimpressive $179.27 million after about ten days.

Now, remember: Disney will get only about 50-55% of the film's grosses in the United and Canada, and about 40% of the grosses elsewhere. For the time being, that roughly translates into approximately $75 million for a studio that has spent — if reports are accurate — at least $350 million on John Carter. Still way in the hole. Good advice about the whole 'Disney should stay forever away from any more Mars-set adventures'...

[GeneChing]

'John Carter' Will Cost Disney $200 Million in Operating Losses (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/john-carter-cost-disney-millions-301704)
1:43 PM PDT 3/19/2012 by Paul Bond

As a result of the catastrophic performance of the Mars-set action film, the studio should lose as much as $120 million in the quarter.

John Carter is officially a money-wasting debacle, and to a degree that exceeds most of Wall Street's predictions.

Disney announced Monday its intentions to write down $200 million as a result of the box-office dud about a Civil War-era soldier who finds himself inexplicably transported to the planet Mars and having to battle a variety of space aliens.

Analysts have known since John Carter's $30 million domestic opening weekend that the movie, with a production budget of $275 million and another $100 million spent on marketing, would cause a large write-down for Disney, though most estimates were about $150 million, with at least one as high as $165 million.

As a result of the hefty $200 million charge, during the period ending March 31 -- Disney's second fiscal quarter -- the studio segment will post a loss of $80 million-$120 million, the company said. During the same quarter a year ago, Disney reported operating profit of $77 million.

John Carter makes it four consecutive years that Disney has had to take a large write-down because of a poor performing movie, following Mars Needs Moms, Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time and The Sorcerer's Apprentice.

As far as the blame-game goes, the fact that studio write-downs have not been uncommon of late should work in the favor of chairman Rich Ross, who took the helm of the studio only two-and-a-half years ago, after John Carter had already been greenlighted by his predecessor, **** Cook.

Besides Ross and Cook, former marketing chief MT Carney, who left Disney three months ago, also bears responsibility for the financial havoc wrought by John Carter, as does Andrew Stanton, the film's director who, up until now, had a stellar reputation as the moviemaking genius behind Pixar hits WALL-E and Finding Nemo.

"In light of the theatrical performance of John Carter ($184 million global box office), we expect the film to generate an operating loss of approximately $200 million during our second fiscal quarter ending March 31," Disney said Monday. " As a result, our current expectation is that the studio segment will have an operating loss of between $80 [million] and $120 million for the second quarter."

Said Wunderlich Securities analyst Matthew Harrigan in a first reaction: "The writing was pretty much on the wall as international was off a good bit this weekend. That was the only saving grace on opening weekend."

He had expected a $150 million-plus loss after the second box-office weekend and previously estimated that the studio would be slightly profitable in the current quarter.

Miller Tabak analyst David Joyce also said that the financial hit was "a bit worse than we expected."

He had taken his studio entertainment operating loss estimate for the current quarter to $37 million before the company's guidance Monday afternoon.

"At this new guidance midpoint, that might only hit our quarterly earnings per share estimate by about an incremental 2 cents," Joyce said.

Evercore Partners analyst Alan Gould said in an interview: "I think my $165 million loss estimate, which was probably the most negative on the Street, underestimated the amount of P&A the company eventually spent. I am a bit surprised, though, that the division will post an $80 million-$120 million loss for the quarter. Taking the midpoint, I would have anticipated the rest of the studio business to have generated more than a $100 million profit."

Disney's statement, released Monday after the closing bell on Wall Street, wasn't entirely dire: It did express confidence in the studio's May and June releases.

"As we look forward to the second half of the year, we are excited about the upcoming releases of The Avengers and Brave, which we believe have tremendous potential to drive value for the studio and the rest of the company."

Disney shares rose 25 cents on Monday to $43.44 and were down 1 percent during the after-hours session. You know, we had the opportunity to do a review on this and I considered it for a moment as there are sword fights. Kevin McCurdy (http://www.kevinmccurdy.com/) is credited as the 'swordmaster' (great credit). But we were too busy so we passed on it.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Ok, seriously now, did anyone think this movie WOULD be a blockbuster ???

[Lucas]

Ok, seriously now, did anyone think this movie WOULD be a blockbuster ???

it was cool looking and neat, but nothing all together overly spectacular.

[GeneChing]

Ok, seriously now, did anyone think this movie WOULD be a blockbuster ??? Disney did. :o

[sanjuro_ronin]

Disney did. :o

Heads should roll.
Spending 300 million on something that the vast majority of people didn't even know about.
I must have seen 1 trailer on TV for it.
One wonders where that 100 million in marketing went...

[GeneChing]

If Mickey was into blow (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/771032/mickey_mouse_cocaine_chichiba_videos/), that would certainly explain a few things.

[sanjuro_ronin]

If Mickey was into blow (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/771032/mickey_mouse_cocaine_chichiba_videos/), that would certainly explain a few things.

One wonders the type of dementia needed to produce a clip like that...
:D

[Lucas]

i saw it but i didnt even know it existed until the day i saw it. for being a new release and seeing it on a saturday aftertnoon at imax, the theater was pretty empty. i was far more impressed with just The Avengers 3D trailer.

[doug maverick]

i saw it but i didnt even know it existed until the day i saw it. for being a new release and seeing it on a saturday aftertnoon at imax, the theater was pretty empty. i was far more impressed with just The Avengers 3D trailer.

well this movie is a horrible flop...lots 200million.

[sanjuro_ronin]

i saw it but i didnt even know it existed until the day i saw it. for being a new release and seeing it on a saturday aftertnoon at imax, the theater was pretty empty. i was far more impressed with just The Avengers 3D trailer.

Enough F'n frickin' F'n 3D !!!!!
:mad:

[Lucas]

lol ive only seen 2, 3D movies before, this one and avatar. its kinda neato...:p