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Hendrik
07-26-2012, 10:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqwKQ7ZVmB8

Enjoy!

guy b.
07-26-2012, 05:08 PM
Your representation of "body type" is such a straw man it is hard to even laugh. And your line type is pathetically weak. Is this all you have?

fan
07-27-2012, 03:04 AM
not a bad effort hendrik. i appreciate your openness and the trouble you took to script, shoot and share the video. of the many members here in this forum, as far i can see, only john fung, alan orr and yourself are contributing video content. keep up the good work!

sanjuro_ronin
07-27-2012, 05:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqwKQ7ZVmB8

Enjoy!

Maybe you were just trying to make an example but if you were, you were not be honest.
If you THINK that was an honest comparison then I begin to doubt that you EVER did kyokushin.

Hendrik
07-27-2012, 06:52 AM
Maybe you were just trying to make an example but if you were, you were not be honest.
If you THINK that was an honest comparison then I begin to doubt that you EVER did kyokushin.

It is a technical power type mechanics comparison communication , no more no less.



You can always make a YouTube and shows us what is your mechanics. And that is a different topic.

sanjuro_ronin
07-27-2012, 06:58 AM
It is a technical power type mechanics comparison communication , no more no less.



You can always make a YouTube and shows us what is your mechanics. And that is a different topic.

Fair enough, I just think that was an unfair comparison because, as you know, karate-type strikes ( which is what you were "demoing") are NOT done like that but with full body AND "kime".

Hendrik
07-27-2012, 07:02 AM
Fair enough, I just think that was an unfair comparison because, as you know, karate-type strikes ( which is what you were "demoing") are NOT done like that but with full body AND "kime".



With or without heavy full body and kime those are still a body type of mechanics.
The body start then it set up the momentum to drive the limps out.
The example is pick to cover various range of art from karate, southern shaolin , and other arts.


As for the force line type it is a different mechanics .


These are just to show a different type of mechanics in tcma.

Hendrik
07-27-2012, 07:07 AM
Take a look at this inch punch and compare it to how inch punch is done with different mechanics as in my demo in the line force type of mechanics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7qR8NMLs3s

Hendrik
07-27-2012, 07:18 AM
not a bad effort hendrik. i appreciate your openness and the trouble you took to script, shoot and share the video. of the many members here in this forum, as far i can see only, only john fung, alan orr and yourself are contributing video content. keep up the good work!


Thanks!

IMHO, it is about sharing what it is technically instead of showing how good one is. Different focus and intention.

sanjuro_ronin
07-27-2012, 07:27 AM
I agree and give Hendrick much props for putting up his clips.
We may not always agree on things, but I think that his putting up those clips shows true MA teaching spirit and a desire to show rather than just talk.

Hendrik
07-27-2012, 07:29 AM
For those who is interested,

The force line demo is an example of the nail and using body to hammer the nail mechanics sun punch . Thus, it is different compare with the usual WCK inch punch demo where the elbow is stretch out to generate power as in the above Bruce lee inch punch training clip.

So again, it is all about mechanics and how mechanics fit different strategy of different style.

Hendrik
07-27-2012, 07:33 AM
I agree and give Hendrick much props for putting up his clips.
We may not always agree on things, but I think that his putting up those clips shows true MA teaching spirit and a desire to show rather than just talk.

I don't know everything and I am not good at everything. And not intended to be the best ...ect.

The intention is just to communicate the different types of things. For me, There are many things needs to be clarify. I might think I know but I don't.

Happy Tiger
07-27-2012, 10:03 AM
Take a look at this inch punch and compare it to how inch punch is done with different mechanics as in my demo in the line force type of mechanics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7qR8NMLs3s
First, let's look at B. Lee's demo of inch power
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRf49fMVOLE
This indeed shows the mechanics Hendrik is refering to...Now check out sifu James Demile demoing inch punch. Keep in mind he supposedly learned this skill from master Lee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aRkYaJ3Vd8
In my opinion, this version is much more in keeping with Hendriks showing of YKT power type. I've always thought DeMile actually learned inch power from some one other than Lee.

Hendrik
07-27-2012, 10:28 AM
First, let's look at B. Lee's demo of inch power
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRf49fMVOLE
This indeed shows the mechanics Hendrik is refering to...Now check out sifu James Demile demoing inch punch. Keep in mind he supposedly learned this skill from master Lee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aRkYaJ3Vd8
In my opinion, this version is much more in keeping with Hendriks showing of YKT power type. I've always thought DeMile actually learned inch power from some one other than Lee.


Thanks for sharing!

Greatly appreciate !


YKT is for education and basic wck development. So, these mechanics are mentioned to help understanding.

sanjuro_ronin
07-27-2012, 10:41 AM
First, let's look at B. Lee's demo of inch power
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRf49fMVOLE
This indeed shows the mechanics Hendrik is refering to...Now check out sifu James Demile demoing inch punch. Keep in mind he supposedly learned this skill from master Lee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aRkYaJ3Vd8
In my opinion, this version is much more in keeping with Hendriks showing of YKT power type. I've always thought DeMile actually learned inch power from some one other than Lee.

You guys do realize that is two DIFFERENT expressions of short power, right?
Lee's is with an extended bridge off the lead leg and Demile's was from a short brideg off the rear leg.

Happy Tiger
07-27-2012, 11:22 AM
You guys do realize that is two DIFFERENT expressions of short power, right?
Lee's is with an extended bridge off the lead leg and Demile's was from a short brideg off the rear leg.
Yup, that's muh point. Bruce Lee taught James Demile Jun Fan and inch punch. But they do different expressions of short power and body reference. Lee seems to be using a somewhat different 'gearing' system and priority.Demile does the sinking gravity potential power thing, Bruce doesn't seem to (unless it's extremely internalised). If you read James Demiles book 'Bruce Lee's one and Three inch Power Punch' you see he teaches it exactly as he does it, including very particular attention to foot placement.One inch punch is different foot placement than three.Points that Lee doesn't seem to exploit .

Hendrik
07-27-2012, 02:59 PM
Yup, that's muh point. Bruce Lee taught James Demile Jun Fan and inch punch. But they do different expressions of short power and body reference. Lee seems to be using a somewhat different 'gearing' system and priority.Demile does the sinking gravity potential power thing, Bruce doesn't seem to (unless it's extremely internalised). If you read James Demiles book 'Bruce Lee's one and Three inch Power Punch' you see he teaches it exactly as he does it, including very particular attention to foot placement.One inch punch is different foot placement than three.Points that Lee doesn't seem to exploit .


IMHO, the shape is secondary. The bottom line is the various play with f = m a . And there are many ways to play .