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Minghequan
12-05-2012, 08:26 PM
Hi Warrior Man,

I've been reading your back and forth with Dale (a person I respect) and yourself.

It's not hard for anybody to do a bit of "Google Fu" to find out about Dale, his Martial and otherwise credentials, background, styles etc ( http://www.daledugas.com/ )

So my question to you in order to better understand where you are coming from in your writings and opinions as posted her on this fine forum is two fold:

1/. Exactly who is you Master???

2/. What is his name?

3/. Where does he live?

4/. What is his style or styles?

5/. Is it possible to contact him to verify his and your own claims to qualifications?

No given that I hardly think these things are "National Secrets" surely you can provide us all with quick, clear, concise and honest answers to these questions!!!

In addition, you recently mentioned an up and coming test for yourself.

I'd be interested in how the test went for you WM. What exactly did you have to do?

Did you pass and become a "Master?"

Looking forward to your answers to these very simply and straight-up questions. Thank you!

B.Tunks
12-05-2012, 09:36 PM
you seriously can't tell that's he's taking the p.iss???

Minghequan
12-05-2012, 09:44 PM
Who says I'm not :)

Well it's either that or he's delusional!

Kellen Bassette
12-05-2012, 11:06 PM
I want to hear it too. You can't tease us with a story like that then leave us hanging!

Minghequan
12-06-2012, 12:50 AM
Come on WM, Answer these easy questions and let us know how your test went?

EarthDragon
12-06-2012, 04:20 AM
Did he seriously say he was going to take a test to become a master? I didnt know thay had a test for that.. geesh where's this test at... I want to be a master as well....

Lucas
12-06-2012, 08:57 AM
I shared the details of his test in the peaceful warrior thread, as i was there.

bawang
12-06-2012, 09:48 AM
i was also there

GeneChing
12-06-2012, 09:57 AM
...and not sully our threads with their arguments. :rolleyes:



Well it's either that or he's delusional! Obviously he's delusional. So what's the point of such questions? You'll just get delusional answers.

Scott R. Brown
12-06-2012, 10:11 AM
My sifu, called The Ancient One, taught us, "Ask a Fool a foolish question and people will wonder who is the fool?":eek:

And,

"When you ask a liar for the Truth, how will you know whether his reply is the Truth or a Lie?"

And,

"When a liar lies, even his lies are lies!"

He was very wise!:cool:

Lebaufist
12-06-2012, 11:26 AM
...and not sully our threads with their arguments. :rolleyes:


Obviously he's delusional. So what's the point of such questions? You'll just get delusional answers.Well, who is badgering who? If WM is just being an instigating troll, then out he should go. :confused:

David Jamieson
12-06-2012, 11:37 AM
Well, who is badgering who? If WM is just being an instigating troll, then out he should go. :confused:

He's getting closer every post.

the mildly amusing factor is probably the thread that he's hanging from. :cool:

GeneChing
12-06-2012, 11:45 AM
Well, who is badgering who? If WM is just being an instigating troll, then out he should go. :confused: It takes two to tango. W_M has weak troll skillz as trolls go. I'm actually surprised he's managed to get the panties of so many members bunched.


the mildly amusing factor is probably the thread that he's hanging from. :cool: It's the popcorn-factor. If only MartialArtsMart.com (http://www.martialartsmart.com/) sold popcorn, we could make a killing here.

rett
12-06-2012, 11:50 AM
Well I've reported him now. I've hardly ever reported anyone that I can remember apart from his alter ego a few days ago. I just want to say it publicly since it feels sneaky and seedy to push the button behind the scenes.

For a while I started thinking he might be able to pull off some kind of Andy Kaufman switcheroo and become truly entertaining.

It's irritating when he actually libels someone though, which is what he's doing. It's borderline actionable at some points in my opinion. Maybe the US has stronger F.O.S. protections.

rett
12-06-2012, 11:55 AM
It takes two to tango. W_M has weak troll skillz as trolls go. I'm actually surprised he's managed to get the panties of so many members bunched.

It's the popcorn-factor. If only MartialArtsMart.com (http://www.martialartsmart.com/) sold popcorn, we could make a killing here.

Maybe instead of banning, you could have a button that puts extra advertisements in any thread he posts in? Just an idea.:cool:

Warrior_Man
12-06-2012, 02:31 PM
Hi Warrior Man,

I've been reading your back and forth with Dale (a person I respect) and yourself.

It's not hard for anybody to do a bit of "Google Fu" to find out about Dale, his Martial and otherwise credentials, background, styles etc ( http://www.daledugas.com/ )

So my question to you in order to better understand where you are coming from in your writings and opinions as posted her on this fine forum is two fold:

1/. Exactly who is you Master???

2/. What is his name?

3/. Where does he live?

4/. What is his style or styles?

5/. Is it possible to contact him to verify his and your own claims to qualifications?

No given that I hardly think these things are "National Secrets" surely you can provide us all with quick, clear, concise and honest answers to these questions!!!

In addition, you recently mentioned an up and coming test for yourself.

I'd be interested in how the test went for you WM. What exactly did you have to do?

Did you pass and become a "Master?"

Looking forward to your answers to these very simply and straight-up questions. Thank you!

Thanks for your interest in my teacher.

He is called Master Li, he trains in a family style and lives in China. You can contact him if you want via me - I'll ask him things on your behalf etc. Is that quick, clear and concise enough for you?

GeneChing
12-06-2012, 03:13 PM
If only MartialArtsMart.com (http://www.martialartsmart.com/) sold popcorn, we could make a killing here.

Maybe instead of banning, you could have a button that puts extra advertisements in any thread he posts in? Just an idea.:cool: Here, I'll do it again. (http://www.martialartsmart.com/)

Minghequan, I told you that line of questioning was useless. It's like teaching a pig to sing sometimes... :rolleyes:

Warrior_Man
12-06-2012, 03:19 PM
This is an entire thread about me, yet you all seem scared of my answers. I'm happy to respond to anything, if you're brave enough to ask that is. Putting extra adverts on my posts won't stop them from being true.

More time training, less time trying to undermine genuine fighters on an internet forum and you might actually gain some skill. Just a thought...

Lebaufist
12-06-2012, 03:38 PM
So he trains in Li style? What does that look like?

PalmStriker
12-06-2012, 03:43 PM
Warrior Dude did'nt get his MasterBlaster Badge. Had to fight 3 street homeys/Mex, no weapons. They kicked his ly'in ass and squirt taco sauce on him for good measure. :) https://www.google.com/search?q=kung+fu+fantasy&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=QPl&tbo=u&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=VB7BUI2pEKfD0QGW7YH4Bw&ved=0CGIQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=807

GeneChing
12-06-2012, 03:45 PM
Ok, so now we're at two mods against, two complaining members and two popcorn-munching supporting members. Typically, I'll ban anyone the mods ask to be banned, but both ban requests were more like inquiries, and it has been amusing, hasn't it? Perhaps we should vote like we did with the IS-Dfr (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32782)? Of course, that inevitably went poorly for the detractors...:rolleyes:

Warrior_Man
12-06-2012, 03:49 PM
Ok, so now we're at two mods against, two complaining members and two popcorn-munching supporting members. Typically, I'll ban anyone the mods ask to be banned, but both ban requests were more like inquiries, and it has been amusing, hasn't it? Perhaps we should vote like we did with the IS-Dfr (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32782)? Of course, that inevitably went poorly for the detractors...:rolleyes:

You're right, I do think this thread is about me, mostly because of its title, 'A Question for Warrior Man???'. As I've said since the beginning, I will answer any questions posed to me, but (as has been the case since the beginning), most mouthboxers like Dale simply lack logical grounds to attack me, and so resort to ad hominem nonsense. I've proven my knowledge (see the traditional medicine thread) and I'm happy to prove my martial skills to anyone who dares visit me.

Lebaufist
12-06-2012, 03:59 PM
I'm totally out of the loop here. So I'll ask honestly, do you have any clips of yourself or your style?

Warrior_Man
12-06-2012, 04:26 PM
I'm totally out of the loop here. So I'll ask honestly, do you have any clips of yourself or your style?

I'm afraid I do not share clips, but I'm happy to meet in person to trade ideas. Sadly, not many people are brave enough to take me up on this particular offer.

Minghequan
12-06-2012, 04:26 PM
Hi Gene,

Have I offended you in some past life or something? I'm just having a little fun like all the others on the forum. It's like you wrote "the popcorn factor". I mean no offence to you nor anyone else.

Sure I asked those questions of WM. He's been all over this forum with his tales of his "mastery" so I'd thought I'd ask a few question of the like that most others here are thinking ..... no harm done. It's not a matter of National Interest or Security but just a little fun.

To be honest I kinda feel sorry for WM as it's obvious that some delusional issues are involved.

I mean no offence to anyone. Just joining in on what the others here have been writing and doing for quite some time.

Minghequan
12-06-2012, 04:28 PM
WM, Thank you for your answers. Can I please ask for some more details?

1/. Master "Li" ... what is his full name?
2/. Where in China does he live?
3/. What is the name and make-up of his "family style"?
4/. Did you pass your "Masters" test which you wrote about elsewhere on this forum?

Warrior_Man
12-06-2012, 04:35 PM
WM, Thank you for your answers. Can I please ask for some more details?

1/. Master "Li" ... what is his full name?
2/. Where in China does he live?
3/. What is the name and make-up of his "family style"?
4/. Did you pass your "Masters" test which you wrote about elsewhere on this forum?

I will ask my master if he is happy for this information to be passed on and will get back to you. I have passed the master tests I have done so far, but I still have several other exams to pass before I can be called 'master'.

Minghequan
12-06-2012, 04:45 PM
WM, Thanks mate. But Buddy you said you'd answer any question put to you. These questions are fairly simple and should be easy to answer so I look forward top your further clarification.

What "Masters tests" have you passed to date and what did each test involve (in some detail please so we all can understand more of the process). Thanks in advance!

RenDaHai
12-06-2012, 04:53 PM
This is an entire thread about me, yet you all seem scared of my answers. I'm happy to respond to anything, if you're brave enough to ask that is. Putting extra adverts on my posts won't stop them from being true.

More time training, less time trying to undermine genuine fighters on an internet forum and you might actually gain some skill. Just a thought...

Ok Dude,

I'm not sure if you are;

1. Joking the whole time and I am the fool for not getting it.
2. Creating stupid stories as a roundabout way of proposing a question
3. Are genuinely delusional and a virgin
4. 12 years old


You said you were having a test for 'master' and had to choose between 50 armed midgets or 10 advanced students to fight.

Which one did you choose and how did you do?

Clear enough question for you?

Warrior_Man
12-06-2012, 05:08 PM
You said you were having a test for 'master' and had to choose between 50 armed midgets or 10 advanced students to fight.


I don't remember writing this. Would it be possible to link me to my post in which I wrote this?

Clear enough question for you?

Minghequan
12-06-2012, 05:37 PM
Kellen Bassette wrote:

I want to hear it too. You can't tease us with a story like that then leave us hanging!

Lets hear all about it! please do share in detail!

RenDaHai
12-06-2012, 05:53 PM
I don't remember writing this. Would it be possible to link me to my post in which I wrote this?

Clear enough question for you?

No, I am certain you deleted it because it was ridiculous.

It might have been beginners instead of midgets.

But you said 50 armed beginners or 10 advanced students.


Perhaps memory loss is another symptom of your delusion.

GeneChing
12-06-2012, 05:55 PM
Hi Gene,

Have I offended you in some past life or something? I'm just having a little fun like all the others on the forum. It's like you wrote "the popcorn factor". I mean no offence to you nor anyone else. I was just playing good cop to your bad cop. All in fun. Carry on.

And pass the popcorn please. I like extra butter.


You're right, I do think this thread is about me, mostly because of its title, 'A Question for Warrior Man???'. Actually, I think it's more about the question, or rather, questions.

Lucas
12-06-2012, 05:56 PM
2. Creating stupid stories as a roundabout way of proposing a question
?



his stories are passive aggressive attempts to attack aspects of certain individuals he does not like. if you look at the 'theme' or 'moral' of each story, they are always directly related to other posts or arguments.

GeneChing
12-06-2012, 06:02 PM
They kind of remind me of the letters section in a porn mag. You know, like those Penthouse Letters that always start out "I never used to believe your letters, but then this happened to me..." and then some totally unbelievable porn tale is written in the same style as all the other letters. The only difference is that these would be for a Kung Fu mag. Not our Kung Fu mag, mind you, we stopped running letters a few issues back. With the rise of social media and this ongoing forum, no one mails us letters anymore.

Minghequan
12-06-2012, 06:12 PM
Gene Ching wrote:

I was just playing good cop to your bad cop. All in fun. Carry on.

And pass the popcorn please. I like extra butter.

Thanks mate. What's written on the web can sometimes be taken the wrong way. I just wanted to be sure that I was not doing the wrong thing here or somehow offended you. It's all good although I do have some serious concerns for our Warrior Man. That said, grabbing the popcorn!

As an aside, Gene could you send me a link or email address for submitting articles to the Magazine? Many thanks!

Minghequan
12-06-2012, 06:14 PM
No, I am certain you deleted it because it was ridiculous.

It might have been beginners instead of midgets.

But you said 50 armed beginners or 10 advanced students.


Perhaps memory loss is another symptom of your delusion.

Ren Da Hai is right on this one. WM, you did post such a thing on the forum as I remember reading it and will back up Ren Hai Dai on this.

WM, Any chance of a answer!

Kellen Bassette
12-06-2012, 06:16 PM
Leave Warrior Man alone!

The poor kid obviously has no friends, and telling his stories here gets him off World of Warcraft for a couple hours a day. Besides it's entertaining...I personally like the lengths he goes to retelling some generic Chinese parable to make it applicable to the posts people write about him.

Besides i love the old school jargon being thrown around since he got here; and get Shadow Trickery back in on this...a warrior needs a side kick!

bawang
12-06-2012, 06:57 PM
i think warrior man is a man of great honor. he speaks with righteousness and wude.

YouKnowWho
12-06-2012, 07:39 PM
Leave Warrior Man alone!

Agree!

Since

- KF is gone,
- wing chuner have formed their own community,
- people here no longer argue about "internal" this and "internal" that,

we need WM to keep this forum alive. As long as he loves fighting, he is one of us.

PalmStriker
12-06-2012, 08:34 PM
No, I am certain you deleted it because it was ridiculous.

It might have been beginners instead of midgets.

But you said 50 armed beginners or 10 advanced students.


Perhaps memory loss is another symptom of your delusion. He said "50 beginners armed with slices of pizza." For the most part, I do not for a second believe this as no "Master" would allow a "degree" senior fighter to go at it with beginners under his wing. All it takes for promotion, where I come from, is one on one with the Master himself. Cut the crap. :(

Scott R. Brown
12-06-2012, 08:36 PM
Agree!

Since

- KF is gone,
- wing chuner have formed their own community,
- people here no longer argue about "internal" this and "internal" that,

we need WM to keep this forum alive. As long as he loves fighting, he is one of us.

No, he is not one of us when he brutally assaults a deranged person on a public transport. Even if his story is true, which is unlikely, he had the assailant under his control and rendered harmless and then strikes him in the carotid artery; a completely unnecessary act that could have killed the person already rendered defenseless.

Anyone with maturity would just hold the person under control until the police arrived. But this dimwit takes a public bow on the train and then brags about his poor judgement on an internationally public forum while complaining there is no honor in this this world.

He is NOT one of us. He is an immature wannabe with delusions of grandeur lecturing his betters on subjects he has little understanding of.

Scott R. Brown
12-06-2012, 08:43 PM
i think warrior man is a man of great honor. he speaks with righteousness and wude.

You are correct he speaks with all the righteousness and wude of a 12 year old who has watched too many Kung Fu movies and has an instructor that cannot recognize his student's reckless disregard of proper conduct.

But aside from that............ He would be a perfect side kick (that is, butt buddy) for the a$$ assassin!:p

Minghequan
12-06-2012, 08:53 PM
I sincerely doubt the "truth" of his story ... why? Because he has told nothing but stories since his arrival on the forum.

Lebaufist
12-06-2012, 09:30 PM
I'm afraid I do not share clips, but I'm happy to meet in person to trade ideas. Sadly, not many people are brave enough to take me up on this particular offer.Where would I meet you to see this? And, you don't have to show clips of your self, you can show us a clip of what the style looks like in general. You can also just tell us what "type" is it, what it looks like etc.

Syn7
12-07-2012, 12:02 AM
Thanks for your interest in my teacher.

He is called Master Li, he trains in a family style and lives in China. You can contact him if you want via me - I'll ask him things on your behalf etc. Is that quick, clear and concise enough for you?

Oh, well, ok then. :rolleyes:

Oh it's a family style. Oh, ok then.

Minghequan
12-07-2012, 01:19 AM
Warrior Man doesn't seem up to the Challenge put to him!

Warrior Man seems to have flown the coop and taking his bat and ball and gone home ........ especially since I took him to task for his disgusting and deplorable comments regarding people who may have autism then he just packed up his bat and ball and ran away.

http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64900

Proof positive that he realizes that his comments were way out of order and not befitting one who claims he is a "Warrior!"

Not to mention his lack of understanding of the Chinese language despite his claim to have been born in China and his claims that he speaks Japanese, Chinese, French and English!!!

Whoops Warrior Man! .... don't look now but I think your lies and insecurities are showing! ;)

Warrior_Man
12-07-2012, 02:26 AM
Warrior Man doesn't seem up to the Challenge put to him!

Warrior Man seems to have flown the coop and taking his bat and ball and gone home ........ especially since I took him to task for his disgusting and deplorable comments regarding people who may have autism then he just packed up his bat and ball and ran away.

http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64900

Proof positive that he realizes that his comments were way out of order and not befitting one who claims he is a "Warrior!"

Not to mention his lack of understanding of the Chinese language despite his claim to have been born in China and his claims that he speaks Japanese, Chinese, French and English!!!

Whoops Warrior Man! .... don't look now but I think your lies and insecurities are showing! ;)

It looks sort of desperate when you multipost man - it seems I'm really starting to upset you. It was my fault really for raising the autism issue with who misunderstands words based on minor typos. At no point did I attack people with autism, but this is all explained in the other thread. If you're still struggling Minghequan, have another read and try again to understand what I wrote.

Again, sorry not to reply instantly to your repeated messages - I have a non-cyber life too, something that distinguishes me from many of you.

With regards to, "Warrior Man doesn't seem up to the Challenge put to him!", could you (in plain and clear terms) describe this challenge please?

rett
12-07-2012, 06:55 AM
It looks like Warrior_Man is desperately trying to cover up the fact that he insults people with disabilities like autism. That's very low, man.

Warrior_Man
12-07-2012, 07:01 AM
It looks like Warrior_Man is desperately trying to cover up the fact that he insults people with disabilities like autism. That's very low, man.

Could you cite an example instead of just regurgitating? This is making you look sort of pathetic.

rett
12-07-2012, 07:06 AM
Minghequan was more right than I even imagined. Sorry, Warrior_Man but that just ain't cool. Lay off the people with special needs, dude. I have a good friend with a kid with Aspbergers. He's a really nice and intelligent person.

Warrior_Man
12-07-2012, 07:09 AM
Minghequan was more right than I even imagined. Sorry, Warrior_Man but that just ain't cool. Lay off the people with special needs, dude. I have a good friend with a kid with Aspbergers. He's a really nice and intelligent person.

Is there any way I can get you to cite an example? My brother is autistic for the record.

Dale Dugas
12-07-2012, 07:17 AM
You're right, I do think this thread is about me, mostly because of its title, 'A Question for Warrior Man???'. As I've said since the beginning, I will answer any questions posed to me, but (as has been the case since the beginning), most mouthboxers like Dale simply lack logical grounds to attack me, and so resort to ad hominem nonsense. I've proven my knowledge (see the traditional medicine thread) and I'm happy to prove my martial skills to anyone who dares visit me.

Just in case the nutbag tries to edit

Dale Dugas
12-07-2012, 07:18 AM
It looks sort of desperate when you multipost man - it seems I'm really starting to upset you. It was my fault really for raising the autism issue with who misunderstands words based on minor typos. At no point did I attack people with autism, but this is all explained in the other thread. If you're still struggling Minghequan, have another read and try again to understand what I wrote.

Again, sorry not to reply instantly to your repeated messages - I have a non-cyber life too, something that distinguishes me from many of you.

With regards to, "Warrior Man doesn't seem up to the Challenge put to him!", could you (in plain and clear terms) describe this challenge please?


calls people austistic.

not cool.

big major suckage factor for the CCMB.

Warrior_Man
12-07-2012, 07:18 AM
Just in case the nutbag tries to edit

This is something like the 10th time Dale has written this. He has a tendency to get stuck in a loop - a while ago he called me 'fortune cookie' about thirty times before realizing just how unfunny it was...

rett
12-07-2012, 07:59 AM
This is an entire thread about me, yet you all seem scared of my answers. I'm happy to respond to anything, if you're brave enough to ask that is. Putting extra adverts on my posts won't stop them from being true.

More time training, less time trying to undermine genuine fighters on an internet forum and you might actually gain some skill. Just a thought...

Okay. I have some questions of my own. Here you go...

1) Why are you beastly to people with special needs? Don't you know that just isn't cool?

二) Why did you assault someone on the metro using a dangerous technique when all he did was verbally berate you? (according to your own original description of what happened)

C) Do you plan on retracting and apologizing for your actionable libel, namely your calling a member a fraud and saying his credentials are fake?

Warrior_Man
12-07-2012, 08:05 AM
Okay. I have some questions of my own. Here you go...

1) Why are you beastly to people with special needs? Don't you know that just isn't cool?

二) Why did you assault someone on the metro using a dangerous technique when all he did was verbally berate you? (according to your own original description of what happened)

C) Do you plan on retracting and apologizing for your actionable libel, namely your calling a member a fraud and saying his credentials are fake?

1) You haven't cited my 'insult' to people with special needs despite my repeated requests for you to do so. I can therefore assume you simply made it up. If this is the case, stop lying - it's making you look like a child.

2) No, he pulled a knife. Read the full thread before dealing with things you don't understand.

'C') Certainly not, I know a fortune cookie when I see one.

rett
12-07-2012, 08:08 AM
Those are all matters of public record. Answer the questions properly; assuming you aren't too scared.

Drake
12-07-2012, 08:23 AM
Alrighty... this guy has ceased to be fun. Can we go ahead and ban him now?

Warrior_Man
12-07-2012, 10:18 AM
Alrighty... this guy has ceased to be fun. Can we go ahead and ban him now?

Ban me for what? Is that what you people do when you get scared? I'm here for serious discussion, but sometimes the truth hurts and the vast majority of cupcakes can't deal with it.

bawang
12-07-2012, 10:21 AM
i dont understand how someone so intelligent can suck so hard at trolling.

Lucas
12-07-2012, 10:30 AM
i dont understand how someone so intelligent can suck so hard at trolling.

Because real trolling is an art form and you need more than intellect, you need talent. Some people just have no talent for the position of troll.

taai gihk yahn
12-07-2012, 10:38 AM
Because real trolling is an art form and you need more than intellect, you need talent. Some people just have no talent for the position of troll.

The REAL problem is that the pre-screening standards when making application for trolling credentials on KFMF are in sore need of review...

Lucas
12-07-2012, 11:40 AM
We need an application, review, and interview process. A resume with some nice trolling history and credentials would be helpful.

GeneChing
12-07-2012, 11:47 AM
I banned Warrior_Man. I have too much to do today to keep playing with him. :rolleyes:

Dale Dugas
12-07-2012, 12:31 PM
Thank you for that which you do with such panache.

Orion Paximus
12-07-2012, 02:16 PM
Then you have forced me to fill the void you have created! Remember you did this to yourselves!!!!!

GeneChing
12-07-2012, 04:10 PM
Maybe I should unban him, just to get it flowing again. :p

taai gihk yahn
12-07-2012, 04:44 PM
Maybe I should unban him, just to get it flowing again. :p

I have a question - why was my perfectly fine, funny and enjoyable "What If..." thread locked down just because there was some discussion about Warrior_Man on it? that's lame...

Scott R. Brown
12-07-2012, 04:51 PM
i dont understand how someone so intelligent can suck so hard at trolling.

Uh............ because he isn't all that intelligent?

The fact you think he is, now makes me wonder about yours?

Kellen Bassette
12-07-2012, 05:53 PM
We need an application, review, and interview process. A resume with some nice trolling history and credentials would be helpful.

True that! I came to this forum with every intention of discussing Kung Fu, but with each passing day it's getting harder and harder to resist the dark side. The urge to become a troll is so strong. I just feel I could do better than some of the trolls here.

I really just want to put on a fake name and do some cup cake mouth boxing. :(

Kellen Bassette
12-07-2012, 05:55 PM
I banned Warrior_Man. I have too much to do today to keep playing with him. :rolleyes:

:( I was enjoying the Warrior Man Show...guess it's time for his alter ego, "Shadow Trickery" to entertain us for a few days.

bawang
12-07-2012, 07:02 PM
Uh............ because he isn't all that intelligent?

The fact you think he is, now makes me wonder about yours?

are you challenging me?

YouKnowWho
12-07-2012, 07:17 PM
:( I was enjoying the Warrior Man Show...

I did too until he refused to answer questions. It's not cool for someone who avoids questions and refuses to give a straight forward answer.

Lebaufist
12-07-2012, 08:31 PM
Maybe I should unban him, just to get it flowing again. :pWe could continue posting about what our Unicorns are doing.

Lebaufist
12-07-2012, 08:32 PM
are you challenging me?Unicorns.............at dawn.

Syn7
12-08-2012, 12:11 AM
:( I was enjoying the Warrior Man Show...guess it's time for his alter ego, "Shadow Trickery" to entertain us for a few days.

Yeah that part is kind of weird. It's like he didn't even try to change his vocab. Unless ST is his brother or something like that. It sounds like an ESL kid who hasn't quite grasped the quirks of the language despite the ability to converse. Like the almost americanized euro rave guys on family guy.

Napitenkah
12-08-2012, 03:57 AM
Warrior man is awesome!

I went to this off topic forum to start a thread to ask why they kept locking the threads warrior man was on, because I had some things to say on them, other than the schoolyard ridiculing that some of the "respected regulars" were engaged in.

I mean, so what if people challenge each other, very few people are likely going to spend alot of money to travel around the world to spar. And if they do, so what, is this the YMCA?
Let's have fun with martial arts.

Then I saw this thread. :)
Yeah!

I have mixed feelings about "credentials"

Technically I am a Black belt in Taekwondo.

My instructor was Master Myoung-Eon Kang. He is a 6th Dan Kukkiwon.

He knew alot, and while the school was open other Black Belt teachers from the area would go there to get instruction from him.

He is from South Korea, and if you go into his Dojang to ask for a sparring match with him, he would take that as an insult and challenge and proceed to fight you.

I know, I saw it happen.

But he didn't have integrity, as the school was closing he said he would like for me to be able to not only get my black belt, but be Kukkiwon certified, which the school didn't offer, because the owner wasn't Kukkiwon certified.

So after the school ended, we continued for awhile at another school he was able to use after hours.

He set up a Black Belt test for me and a few kids that had been in the previous school.

The money he got for test fees was in the thousands, I learned all 8 Taeguk forms in a very short period, as well as 20 or so one steps and kicking forms.

I badly bruised up and sprained my hand breaking a concrete patio block, because he didn't actually show me how to do it, just said, don't break my hand.

At the end he showed us a really cool back flip kick, then left and that was 2 years ago.

We paid for a show, essentially.

Of course, he did show me everything up to 1st Dan, and I can and do continue to practice it.

I am working on application now, because, to say the least, that was not a priority there.

I started Kung Fu, and feel that is more to where I am, then the military movements of Taekwondo, I just have a better idea of what to look for with Sifus, after what I was through with my Qwangjangnim.

I have seen several times, people questioning credentials, and from some second hand assumptions make judgments, but there are alot of possibles.

Warrior man gives this place some color, because everyone else is trying to act hip and socially acceptable.

Napitenkah
12-08-2012, 04:11 AM
I read through the thread.
So they started a thread on warrior man to provoke him, and psychologically toy with him, then HE was banned?

I definitely don't get the Bushido here.

Kellen Bassette
12-08-2012, 04:47 AM
I did too until he refused to answer questions. It's not cool for someone who avoids questions and refuses to give a straight forward answer.

You mean the way he would answer a direct question as vaguely and ambiguously as possible and then say "Is that clear and concise enough for you?" :cool:

Kellen Bassette
12-08-2012, 04:49 AM
I'm a little confused Napitenkah...is that your resume you posted; and why?? :confused:

Kellen Bassette
12-08-2012, 04:50 AM
Yeah that part is kind of weird. It's like he didn't even try to change his vocab. Unless ST is his brother or something like that. It sounds like an ESL kid who hasn't quite grasped the quirks of the language despite the ability to converse. Like the almost americanized euro rave guys on family guy.

Lol, that's exactly like it! How can anyone speak English so well and sound so foreign?

Napitenkah
12-08-2012, 05:02 AM
I'm a little confused Napitenkah...is that your resume you posted; and why?? :confused:

As I know it, a resume is posted as a means of acceptance or employment from an organization or group.

So...No.

Why are you confused?

Kellen Bassette
12-08-2012, 05:07 AM
As I know it, a resume is posted as a means of acceptance or employment from an organization or group.

So...No.

Why are you confused?

Because the way you wrote it and responded to the preceding posts made it unclear as to whether you were referring to yourself, or to Warrior Man. Also it seems strange to list so many things about yourself unsolicited, unless i missed something in an earlier post.

But it's clear and concise now. ;)

Napitenkah
12-08-2012, 05:29 AM
And I am not even going to enquire on how off base that must be.

I didn't say anything about myself, just a faux black belt test.

Napitenkah
12-08-2012, 05:39 AM
But we need to bring back Warrior Man immediately.

It is actually funny, that, at the same time people are making fun of him, like I would see kids do to a lone kid, when I was a kid. they are taking what he does so seriously.

Doesn't matter if he made everything up, for whatever reason, it doesn't hurt anyone.

Except for maybe the odd ruffian, there is no danger in what he does, and he can teach us deadly wisdom.

It is funny, and sad, how people still haven't evolved since they were children, trying to fit in at school.

I would usually befriend the kid that was outcast, if by chance I wasn't the outcast, or another kid was more estranged.

And, unless the kid disrespected me, they were often more interesting than those that played it safe, and picked on those that didn't.

So you all learned martial arts, but are still afraid to stand out.

Shadow_Trickery
12-08-2012, 06:05 AM
:( I was enjoying the Warrior Man Show...guess it's time for his alter ego, "Shadow Trickery" to entertain us for a few days.

LOL... Love that people keep linking me to that guy when I have nothing to do with him. I would have thought that was pretty obvious. This is a prime example of people trolling themselves I guess...?

Scott R. Brown
12-08-2012, 06:07 AM
are you challenging me?

Too late for that! We already fought and I won with my lightening fast Ameri-caucasian super-strength we learned how to develop after we brought the Nazi scientists over from Germany after WWII, combined with the Ameriasian skills and wisdom imparted to me by The Ancient One and also just a spoonful of sugar we learned from Mary Poppins. It makes everything go down sweeter! That is why it is called the sweet smell of success. It is also why you don't remember! It was a happy event for you!

I blame your defeat on your mother though, she apparently isn't as strong as you thought he was!:(


Warrior man is awesome!

Yes, he was awesomely juvenile!:rolleyes:


Warrior man gives this place some color, because everyone else is trying to act hip and socially acceptable.

There is a difference between trying to act hip and being hip! It is the wannabes that criticize the in crowd for being the in crowd. The fact is, if you hang around here long enough, you get to be the in crowd too. You don't have to try at all, it comes about just by being here and participating. You don't even have to get along the whole time, just not be a horses a$$ most of the time.

It might benefit you to learn a bit about social groups, how they form and how they function. The process is pretty much the same across social groups.

If you don't want to be hip, because to you, it isn't hip, then don't complain about it!


I read through the thread.
So they started a thread on warrior man to provoke him, and psychologically toy with him, then HE was banned?

I definitely don't get the Bushido here.

That is because you are new here. And you haven't read EVERYTHING he wrote on all the threads he participated in and you don't understand what he has done.

He was warned, by me publicly, from almost his first post. I am sure he was warned privately more than once by the moderators.

He was NOT provoked by members, his first few posts were the provocative ones. Then he used silly made up stories he pretended to be Chinese fairytales in order to passive-aggressively mock and attack members. Then he moved on to public ridicule and name calling and libel and admitted to committing an atrocity on an unbalanced person and bragged about his heroic-self. etc.

He was clearly escalating his inappropriate behavior!

I told him from the beginning, and it might be beneficial for you to keep this in mind too, this place is like a local pub. Many of the, COOL:cool: ones, myself excluded of course because I am way above COOL:cool:, have been here 10 years of so. So, imagine someone new coming into a local pub in a quiet neighborhood and decides to take up residence there for his spare time. He comes in and starts fights and acts punkish and disrespects the locals. What do you think the locals will do with this person?

You can criticize the social rules all you want, but the rules persist across all cultural and social strata because it is the nature of man to spontaneously organize into groups and those groups have basically the same social rules. These rules are universal across groups. New people must accommodate themselves to the group, not the group to the individual. Individuals that can't or won't fit in, will leave of their own accord, or they will be ostracized.

He got what he asked for by his punkish behavior. Go to any public meeting and act punkish and you will be escorted off the premises as well.

Also Gene is a fair man. I would not be surprised if he is allowed back at some point. But he will most likely lose control of his behavior again and he will banned again and again because he is young and immature. He needs to grow up a bit before he gets to play with the COOL kids!

Scott R. Brown
12-08-2012, 06:10 AM
But we need to bring back Warrior Man immediately.

It is actually funny, that, at the same time people are making fun of him, like I would see kids do to a lone kid, when I was a kid. they are taking what he does so seriously.

Doesn't matter if he made everything up, for whatever reason, it doesn't hurt anyone.

Except for maybe the odd ruffian, there is no danger in what he does, and he can teach us deadly wisdom.

It is funny, and sad, how people still haven't evolved since they were children, trying to fit in at school.

I would usually befriend the kid that was outcast, if by chance I wasn't the outcast, or another kid was more estranged.

And, unless the kid disrespected me, they were often more interesting than those that played it safe, and picked on those that didn't.

So you all learned martial arts, but are still afraid to stand out.

Read my above post and chill out a bit. You either do not know the whole story, or you don't care, which means you might not be around for long either.


LOL... Love that people keep linking me to that guy when I have nothing to do with him. I would have thought that was pretty obvious. This is a prime example of people trolling themselves I guess...?

I think it is just because you two showed up almost immediately.

Frankly, I haven't ruled out you might be the same person myself, but I personally need more evidence.

Speculation, is not the same thing as trolling by the way.

Napitenkah
12-08-2012, 06:10 AM
If you love it, then why say it isn't true?

What people don't realize is warrior man is actually Dale.

Punk'd

David Jamieson
12-08-2012, 06:12 AM
If you love it, then why say it isn't true?

What people don't realize is warrior man is actually Dale.

Punk'd

Or that you're yet another in a short bus line of multiple account holders who has nothing better to do than champion trolls at site that don't care for them.

Scott R. Brown
12-08-2012, 06:15 AM
If you love it, then why say it isn't true?

What people don't realize is warrior man is actually Dale.

Punk'd

Or he is you!:p

Napitenkah
12-08-2012, 06:23 AM
Read my above post and chill out a bit. You either do not know the whole story, or you don't care, which means you might not be around for long either.

Oh, I read the above and I read everything warrior man and the rest of you said before today, in the last week or so.

So your judgement isn't sound.

The problem with hanging around Pubs, is people drink poison and think they have become normal, and anyone that doesn't drink the poison is insane or unhip.

Your rationalizations on the social infrastructure of this group and groups the world over, is the most imbalanced, yet typical frame of mind, and I have heard it before.

You basically threaten people with banning if they don't fit into your drunken philosophy.

Trust me, I learned awhile ago, that no internet group is worth marginalizing an independent spirit, to fit into.

The fact that your so dogmatic about fitting in, shows me that, outside of a sudden wave, I may as well not participate, if intellectually, people prefer the comfort of conformity.

Napitenkah
12-08-2012, 06:26 AM
Or that you're yet another in a short bus line of multiple account holders who has nothing better to do than champion trolls at site that don't care for them.

The funny thing with people labeled trolls, is they bring out the worst in people.

Scott R. Brown
12-08-2012, 06:39 AM
Oh, I read the above and I read everything warrior man and the rest of you said before today, in the last week or so.

So your judgement isn't sound.

The problem with hanging around Pubs, is people drink poison and think they have become normal, and anyone that doesn't drink the poison is insane or unhip.

Your rationalizations on the social infrastructure of this group and groups the world over, is the most imbalanced, yet typical frame of mind, and I have heard it before.

You basically threaten people with banning if they don't fit into your drunken philosophy.

Trust me, I learned awhile ago, that no internet group is worth marginalizing an independent spirit, to fit into.

The fact that your so dogmatic about fitting in, shows me that, outside of a sudden wave, I may as well not participate, if intellectually, people prefer the comfort of conformity.

Well you won't be around long I guess, because you are apparently as dumb as door, don't let it hit you when you storm out in a huff or get banned.

You don't get to make the social rules, and neither do I, or anyone else, they are inherent to mankind. We must all follow them and all of us will suffer the consequences of non-conformity.

Good luck with your idealist foolishness. When you can see that your version of the way things OUGHT to be is just as narrow and confining as what you are criticizing, you may consider yourself as having gained some insight and maturity.

Until then, we will all sit back and watch the next troll developing right before our eyes!:eek:

I am sorry the world doesn't live up to your unrealistic expectations!:o

Understand that it never will!

Scott R. Brown
12-08-2012, 06:52 AM
Since you don't understand the pub analogy we will change it too a Martial Arts school in hopes of helping you understand.

This is basically what you have done here:

You have walked into a Martial Arts school, (its a metaphor right? you understand a metaphor?) you start complaining to anyone who will listen what you don't like about the school and what they teach. You tell them you are special and unique and therefore should be allowed to stay and play with the other martial artists of that school.

Will they welcome you into their school, just because you think you are an independent minded person and unique and above all the other students?

Or will they laugh you out of the facility?

Then one of the other students takes you aside as says "Hey, dude! Uncool man. You have to be a bit more respectful. You can't just come in and start telling everyone, everything you don't like about it here, especially if you want join and learn with the rest of us.

This is basically what I have done for you here. I have tried to befriend you just as you said you would do for an awkward Warrior Man who just needs a friend to guide him.

But you not are as smart or as unique as you think you are. You are like the many other newbie trolls that think they are better then us lowly drunks in a pub and you will show us the error of our ways.

You are fighting with human nature. A nature you already conform too, and it is telling you cannot see it within yourself. You are guilty of the same errors you are complaining about!

Fix yourself, because you will not be able to fix the world!

Drake
12-08-2012, 07:21 AM
Like fighting a big, stupid hydra that, instead of biting, just goes "Nyah, see?!" every time you cut off a stupid head ( or user account)

rett
12-08-2012, 07:54 AM
The funny thing with people labeled trolls, is they bring out the worst in people.

Calling someone a fraud and saying his credentials are fake in a publicly published fashion is going too far. That's what got me angry anyhow.

rett
12-08-2012, 07:58 AM
LOL... Love that people keep linking me to that guy when I have nothing to do with him. I would have thought that was pretty obvious. This is a prime example of people trolling themselves I guess...?

If that's true I apologize. Have to see the humor in it all I guess.

bawang
12-08-2012, 10:03 AM
Too late for that! We already fought and I won with my lightening fast Ameri-caucasian super-strength we learned how to develop after we brought the Nazi scientists over from Germany after WWII,

we know your secret. you milk the life force of black men in secret factory farms, row upon row, then inject the life force into your body to sustain your unnatural power.

Scott R. Brown
12-08-2012, 12:34 PM
we know your secret. you milk the life force of black men in secret factory farms, row upon row, then inject the life force into your body to sustain your unnatural power.

Nope, I don't even know any Black people.

It is definitely German physio-technology, Chinese wisdom and kung fu skills mastered against your own people. And of course a little bit of Mary Poppins to make it sooooo sweet you were smiling at your own defeat!:p;)

Syn7
12-08-2012, 04:49 PM
LOL... Love that people keep linking me to that guy when I have nothing to do with him. I would have thought that was pretty obvious. This is a prime example of people trolling themselves I guess...?

Maybe it's just coz you haven't yet grasped the nuances of americanized english. If you aren't at all associated with this kid, it's quite the coincidence. The similarities are HUGE.

PS- nobody says trickery up in here. Just you two.

Hebrew Hammer
12-08-2012, 05:03 PM
Is this thread still 'on'? Well boys will boys...get it all out lads.

Syn7
12-08-2012, 05:19 PM
Or that you're yet another in a short bus line of multiple account holders who has nothing better to do than champion trolls at site that don't care for them.

Well you can tell whether they are using anon IP's or similar IP's. Just go have a look and you can narrow it down. I doubt anyone would go to the extremes of using two seperate deliberate and consistent IP's. If one is using the same IP in france over and over and the other is swiss, then there is a good chance that it is just a coincidence.

Syn7
12-08-2012, 05:30 PM
Oh, I read the above and I read everything warrior man and the rest of you said before today, in the last week or so.

So your judgement isn't sound.

The problem with hanging around Pubs, is people drink poison and think they have become normal, and anyone that doesn't drink the poison is insane or unhip.

Your rationalizations on the social infrastructure of this group and groups the world over, is the most imbalanced, yet typical frame of mind, and I have heard it before.

You basically threaten people with banning if they don't fit into your drunken philosophy.

Trust me, I learned awhile ago, that no internet group is worth marginalizing an independent spirit, to fit into.

The fact that your so dogmatic about fitting in, shows me that, outside of a sudden wave, I may as well not participate, if intellectually, people prefer the comfort of conformity.

No, it's just that the regulars here have been beating eachother for years and we have all come to a few fundamental understandings about what is what. Look, KFM is full of different kinds of people, but we almost ALL agree that warrior man is delusional or a joke. And this is coming from a group of people that normally tear into eachother. If their is anything that can unite KFM regulars, it's people like warrior man. You can come here and be a d1ck, a tree hugger, a killer, whatever. But one thing that is not tolerated very much around here are LARPers. Sure we all have our own ways of doing things. We have a very diverse crowd here. And we all agree that people like warrior man are not being realistic.

Syn7
12-08-2012, 05:42 PM
we know your secret. you milk the life force of black men in secret factory farms, row upon row, then inject the life force into your body to sustain your unnatural power.

One of the first directors of development at NASA was a whitewashed war criminal member of the SS who had no issue with the Nazi's until he himself was mistreated. Wernher von Braun, the man who built weapons that killed a **** ton of allied soldiers. All was forgiven and he even became buddies with Walt Disney (no surprise there given Walts love of Jewish culture).

Kellen Bassette
12-08-2012, 09:34 PM
Hold up guys, I'm getting some popcorn...:cool:

Scott R. Brown
12-09-2012, 06:01 AM
Hold up guys, I'm getting some popcorn...:cool:

What kind of popcorn?

I'll bet the kind I eat is better than yours!

And more healthy too?

You probably eat inferior popcorn because you are cheap!

Or maybe you get the best popcorn because you think you are better than everyone else!

In fact, I bet you don't even know what goes into making popcorn and the oppression that is experienced by the poor popcorn manufactures that work 27hrs a day just so you can eat your hoity-toity popcorn!

You sir are a popcorn snob who doesn't care about the popcorn oppressed that cannot afford your high class popcorn!

Put that in your popcorn bowl and smoke it, you popcorn troll!:p

taai gihk yahn
12-09-2012, 06:43 AM
No, it's just that the regulars here have been beating eachother for years and we have all come to a few fundamental understandings about what is what. Look, KFM is full of different kinds of people, but we almost ALL agree that warrior man is delusional or a joke. And this is coming from a group of people that normally tear into eachother. If their is anything that can unite KFM regulars, it's people like warrior man. You can come here and be a d1ck, a tree hugger, a killer, whatever. But one thing that is not tolerated very much around here are LARPers. Sure we all have our own ways of doing things. We have a very diverse crowd here. And we all agree that people like warrior man are not being realistic.

actually, Syn7 is a great example of someone who came in relatively recently and fit into the group dynamic fairly seamlessly - why? because he started out by NOT behaving like a d1ck, despite the fact that he brought with him an clear individuality; he expressed himself as an individual, but at the same time made an EFFORT to work into the group dynamic; he got to know people, and would qualify his initial posts with a degree of deference to long-time posters: not sucing up, but just making it clear he was aware of the context - he had no sense of expectation / entitlement about himself - and thus, he became accepted in a short time as a regular;

that's not to say that everyone who comes here necesarily has to subscribe to that approach - u can come on as a newb and stay on the periphery and still participate; you can also come in and troll a la John Takeshi - this was done masterfully, without insulting other members;

Warrior-MAn was initially clever in the Takeshi-style, but soon became tiresome and boorish;

Napitenkah
12-09-2012, 07:42 AM
I came here and saw the group verbally beating on someone because they were different, I didn't come here to insult people.

But I will step in to online bullying and verbal abuse. I am not connected to warrior man, I just don't care for the abuse. This is not a martial arts school.

It just gets worse when they label the person a troll, while they are beating on him, and the moderator banns him, to back them up. Giving them the power to abuse.

I am seeking someone at the magazine to speak about this, though it may not be possible, or they are all like this.

ShaolinDan
12-09-2012, 07:46 AM
Like fighting a big, stupid hydra that, instead of biting, just goes "Nyah, see?!" every time you cut off a stupid head ( or user account)

Drake nailed it.

Scott R. Brown
12-09-2012, 10:48 AM
I came here and saw the group verbally beating on someone because they were different, I didn't come here to insult people.

But I will step in to online bullying and verbal abuse. I am not connected to warrior man, I just don't care for the abuse. This is not a martial arts school.

It just gets worse when they label the person a troll, while they are beating on him, and the moderator banns him, to back them up. Giving them the power to abuse.

I am seeking someone at the magazine to speak about this, though it may not be possible, or they are all like this.

You came into an environment you don't understand to interfere in a situation you know very little about to defend someone you don't know about his poor behavior that no one approved of but a very few, then sought to criticize the powers that be for being too mean.

This ain't your pub, your school, your BB. You are no better or worse than the rest of us. We all have to follow the rules. Even you and Warrior man.

If you don't like it, I am sure there must be other BB available the will meet your high standards of moral superiority.

bawang
12-09-2012, 11:09 AM
Warrior-MAn was initially clever in the Takeshi-style, but soon became tiresome and boorish;
exactly. he outlived his usefulness and no longer entertained us.

Drake
12-09-2012, 12:39 PM
I came here and saw the group verbally beating on someone because they were different, I didn't come here to insult people.

But I will step in to online bullying and verbal abuse. I am not connected to warrior man, I just don't care for the abuse. This is not a martial arts school.

It just gets worse when they label the person a troll, while they are beating on him, and the moderator banns him, to back them up. Giving them the power to abuse.

I am seeking someone at the magazine to speak about this, though it may not be possible, or they are all like this.

Clearly you missed the point where WM was making fun of those with disabilities, mocking others, breaking the law by slandering someone's credentials as being fake. You also missed the part where he confessed to attacking a commuter who was too close to him, and then changed his story so that the commuter had a knife instead. You missed the part where he insulted numerous posters here, and acted as though he was better than everyone.

Clearly, clearly you missed this...

Or...

Kellen Bassette
12-09-2012, 08:36 PM
What kind of popcorn?

I'll bet the kind I eat is better than yours!

And more healthy too?

You probably eat inferior popcorn because you are cheap!

Or maybe you get the best popcorn because you think you are better than everyone else!

In fact, I bet you don't even know what goes into making popcorn and the oppression that is experienced by the poor popcorn manufactures that work 27hrs a day just so you can eat your hoity-toity popcorn!

You sir are a popcorn snob who doesn't care about the popcorn oppressed that cannot afford your high class popcorn!

Put that in your popcorn bowl and smoke it, you popcorn troll!:p

My popcorn recipe was handed down by Master Orville Redenbacher himself! I have also studied the arts or buttering, salting and caramelizing...I have it on good authority that the chef you apprenticed under learned how to pop corn from Youtube!

rett
12-10-2012, 12:46 AM
No, it's just that the regulars here have been beating eachother for years and we have all come to a few fundamental understandings about what is what. Look, KFM is full of different kinds of people, but we almost ALL agree that warrior man is delusional or a joke. And this is coming from a group of people that normally tear into eachother. If their is anything that can unite KFM regulars, it's people like warrior man. You can come here and be a d1ck, a tree hugger, a killer, whatever. But one thing that is not tolerated very much around here are LARPers. Sure we all have our own ways of doing things. We have a very diverse crowd here. And we all agree that people like warrior man are not being realistic.

Would an honest LARPer be okay? Like say, the secretary of the North American LARP Association comes in and is like, hi guys I like to LARP so I'm interested in martial arts training in order to be able LARP better. Just forms and show routines. And so he asks questions related to his interests.

I bet even that would go over at least ok. Of course if someone actually wrote that it would probably sound like some kind of troll.

JamesC
12-10-2012, 02:08 AM
Would an honest LARPer be okay? Like say, the secretary of the North American LARP Association comes in and is like, hi guys I like to LARP so I'm interested in martial arts training in order to be able LARP better. Just forms and show routines. And so he asks questions related to his interests.

I bet even that would go over at least ok. Of course if someone actually wrote that it would probably sound like some kind of troll.

I had a similar request at one time.

I requested someone to post a form I could practice for agility reasons while I was in the process of gaining a lot of weight.

No one really minded then. I told them I wanted something fun to learn from a video with some fairly complicated footwork and explosiveness.

As a side note, I didn't do it. I just jumped more rope...

David Jamieson
12-10-2012, 06:51 AM
The funny thing with people labeled trolls, is they bring out the worst in people.

Trolls are the worst in people. They can fully expect to be rejected because that is what they are seeking. They are generally individuals who hate themselves, seek validation and in turn develop their construct firmly that they are not worthy of regard and in the end they feel no one else is either short of celebrities they can never get close to or relate to.

the entire world view is skewed for the troll. They are ill equipped psychologically to deal with realities and so they escape to a child like world where they can be destructive.

there is no value to what they do. For the most part, they are sad and lonely individuals who fail to communicate with any real effect and so they play the spiral game of dislike etc.

There is no desire to have them here and I seek to have them banned immediately upon revelation of same.

Jimbo
12-10-2012, 08:41 AM
When a new troll appears, they usually seem to come on twos. One who's the 'alpha' troll, and a nut rider who supports and tries to validate him or her. Either that or it's one person all along. But they join at the same time.

Scott R. Brown
12-10-2012, 09:04 AM
My popcorn recipe was handed down by Master Orville Redenbacher himself! I have also studied the arts or buttering, salting and caramelizing...I have it on good authority that the chef you apprenticed under learned how to pop corn from Youtube!

Yeah???? :mad:

Well........

....at least it was an HD video!!!!:mad:

And HD is better than real life!

The only thing better is 3D HD at 48fps!!

And I'll be learning from from one of those real soon!:cool:

David Jamieson
12-10-2012, 09:47 AM
When a new troll appears, they usually seem to come on twos. One who's the 'alpha' troll, and a nut rider who supports and tries to validate him or her. Either that or it's one person all along. But they join at the same time.

That actually happened here when some of the goofballs at trollshido decided they knew better and would come over here with a crap story and try to spread it in an effort to generate traffic at their site which was dropping because....well, they don't have quality product in many respects.

silly kids with overinflated egos.

I'm all for a good joke troll, really I am. But that's usually a one off, get a laugh and move on. the consistent bone headed trolling as displayed by Warrior_man and his ilk is unproductive.

The troll defender up there is quite possibly and likely the same dang person. the very fact they are doing exactly what Scott is describing makes it a little clearer.

GeneChing
12-10-2012, 10:00 AM
The only thing better is 3D HD at 48fps!! I'll see if this is true tonight and let you know tomorrow. :cool:

Syn7
12-10-2012, 05:26 PM
Would an honest LARPer be okay? Like say, the secretary of the North American LARP Association comes in and is like, hi guys I like to LARP so I'm interested in martial arts training in order to be able LARP better. Just forms and show routines. And so he asks questions related to his interests.

I bet even that would go over at least ok. Of course if someone actually wrote that it would probably sound like some kind of troll.

I can see why many would think it's a joke, but if they were honest and realistic about it, sure, why not?

YouKnowWho
12-10-2012, 05:52 PM
If you go to a

- Judo forum and suggest that they should train no-gi throw.
- Taiji forum and suggest that TCMA is more than just health, self-cultivation, and inner peace.
- "Internal" form and suggest that they should do partner training and sparring.
- MMA forum and suggest that MA is more than just fighting.

you may just be treated as "troll" by default. How much freedom of speech that we have in online discussion is not very clear sometime.

Drake
12-10-2012, 07:32 PM
If you go to a

- Judo forum and suggest that they should train no-gi throw.
- Taiji forum and suggest that TCMA is more than just health, sel-cultivation, and inner peace.
- "Internal" form and suggest that they should do partner training and sparring.
- MMA forum and suggest that MA is more than just fighting.

you may just be treated as "troll" by default. How much freedom of speech that we have in online discussion is not very clear sometime.

You have unfettered, unrestricted freedom of speech.

If, of course, you have your own ISP and your own message board.

I'm not sure if you get this yet, but you are on a privately owned website, and the owners pay a respectable amount of money for its existence and upkeep.

You are ALLOWED to post here, granted you follow the rules of the owner(s).

Freedom of speech? Seriously? Do you not understand how this all works yet?

Gene would be well within his right to ban people for ending sentences in prepositions, and there would be no "violation of rights".

Napitenkah
12-11-2012, 01:20 AM
You came into an environment you don't understand to interfere in a situation you know very little about to defend someone you don't know about his poor behavior that no one approved of but a very few, then sought to criticize the powers that be for being too mean.
This ain't your pub, your school, your BB. You are no better or worse than the rest of us. We all have to follow the rules. Even you and Warrior man.
If you don't like it, I am sure there must be other BB available the will meet your high standards of moral superiority.
Clearly you missed the point where WM was making fun of those with disabilities, mocking others, breaking the law by slandering someone's credentials as being fake. You also missed the part where he confessed to attacking a commuter who was too close to him, and then changed his story so that the commuter had a knife instead. You missed the part where he insulted numerous posters here, and acted as though he was better than everyone.
Clearly, clearly you missed this...
Or...Trolls are the worst in people. They can fully expect to be rejected because that is what they are seeking. They are generally individuals who hate themselves, seek validation and in turn develop their construct firmly that they are not worthy of regard and in the end they feel no one else is either short of celebrities they can never get close to or relate to.
the entire world view is skewed for the troll. They are ill equipped psychologically to deal with realities and so they escape to a child like world where they can be destructive.
there is no value to what they do. For the most part, they are sad and lonely individuals who fail to communicate with any real effect and so they play the spiral game of dislike etc.
There is no desire to have them here and I seek to have them banned immediately upon revelation of same.

Hopefully that quote is not too long, but I quoted 3 people, who may as well be the same person.

What goes on here makes Kung Fu and Kung Fu magazine look bad.

If this is to be considered a martial arts school that I have wandered into, then it can only finds its similarity in the fictional "Cobra Kai dojo" school of Karate Kid.

I don't even really have to explain that, as most people have seen it, and know the school was a breeding ground and encouraging place for bullys.

Their instructor, not only backed them up, but insisted that is how they be.

The people that keep saying I don't know the situation, I know they are just saying for psychological effect and empowerment, like people do on XBOX live trying to psyche out and own other gamers during play.

Doesn't work on me. Scott and the others, you can save your bull****, don't bother.

It is actually better that they do know they are full of BS, then that they actually believe the stories warrior man told.

Anyone that believes that warrior man killed a ruffian in public, and everyone cheered him on, and believed it even in the obviously archaic language way that he wrote it, are the same people that believe "Bullly Beatdown" was entirely real, and the bullys were really bullys and not bad actors.

In reality he would have been arrested. But I know there isn't a single person here that believes any of that.
If they do, then they need to be in assisted living or something.

I had already been reading threads for weeks here, before posting, and the only thing I didn't know about when I first joined into this thread, was that warrior man had already been banned, because people knowingly made B.S issue with his harmless stories.

First they would demean and make fun of them, popcorn watchers and all, and when he replied, they would twist around what he said to mean something insulting and dangerous to the group. The whole time the associate editor is backing them up.

The use of the label Troll, is one of the most abused I have seen on the internet.

If someone doesn't fit in, they are a troll.

It goes back the the playground.

I would hear other kids say why they felt it was justified to verbally and physically abuse someone. "he is so obnoxious, he thinks he is better than us, he does it to deliberately get us mad, on and on..."

They didn't have a label for it then, but now it is troll.
Don't take responsibility for your own reactions, blame the troll, and beat on them and kick them out.

It shows that people often don't evolve in the collective society.


Cobra kai blamed Daniel LaRusso. You could see, they wanted people to believe he was the menace.

Yes, I don't accept the world the way it is, I am not a Kung Fu martial artist, but they wouldn't accept the world the way it is.

They wouldn't accept what they were told to abide by, some abusive culture of psychological domination.

Yes, I will champion the trolls, because like the creature of myth, they are not often what is said of them by society.

Yes, I have found some other forums I will check out, but I don't have a great expectation that they will be any different.
I had already been to Bullshido, and they are even worse.

Unfortunately the MMA mindset has moved into traditional martial arts forums, as well. But Scott is correct, this is how it is everywhere, so that is good enough reason for me, aspiring to be a martial artist, to not accept it.

But if I even read Kung Fu magazine after this, I will always have that realization that the people behind it, support Cobra kai type abuse.


And the rest sit back, eat popcorn and laugh at it.

Because that is the bases means of martial expression, why be Tai chi chuan when it is so much more fun to be competition sport.

Warrior man's posts were harmless, and everyone knows it.

I get this all the time where people insist I am in allegiance with whoever or whatever I defend.

Bullshido did the same thing, also calling me a nuthugger for defending someone they were talking **** about.

Yes, I will not post again.

Thank you for your time.

Syn7
12-11-2012, 02:38 AM
Well, you always have the option to just **** off. Just a suggestion :rolleyes:


Refer to the sig, playbwoy!

You need thicker skin if you want to stick around. You will be abused, it's just the nature of the beast. So many personality types with so many opinions on how things should be. You will find that most threads are either a group circle jerk or an argument that may or may not be civil. If you can't handle that................. to the left, son.

Shadow_Trickery
12-11-2012, 03:58 AM
Edit: Sorry; you can ignore this post - just read some more of the posts in this topic and saw that a few people actually apologised for wrongly linking me to Warrior_Man (I think it was only one guy who continued to randomly accuse me of this, which I can live with as it's a minority). Thanks!

David Jamieson
12-11-2012, 05:57 AM
Sweet lord, make sure you don't eat the last porkchop around this guy.
That is some fine whining right there Nap.

You must be a blast at parties as you criticize your hosts. Nice misplaced moral reprimands by the way. Ego much? :rolleyes:

rett
12-11-2012, 07:50 AM
I think it's funny how "nappy" here tries to put it in terms we can understand by drawing a Karate Kid analogy.

Dale Dugas
12-11-2012, 07:52 AM
more yapping from mouthboxers.

enough already.