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Raipizo
12-11-2012, 08:53 PM
Obviously it was made for wing chun, do you guys from other styles use a wooden dummy to train, and if so how do you incorporate it into your training?

bawang
12-11-2012, 08:55 PM
Obviously it was made for wing chun,

nope

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Raipizo
12-11-2012, 08:58 PM
Well whatever, anyway do you use one?

bawang
12-11-2012, 09:00 PM
nope

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in northern kung fu its used to learn the counter punching angles

Raipizo
12-12-2012, 12:47 AM
Oh that's cool. Wish I knew some then :P

LFJ
12-12-2012, 01:53 AM
Obviously it was made for wing chun, do you guys from other styles use a wooden dummy to train, and if so how do you incorporate it into your training?

Are you only talking about the WC wooden dummy specifically?

There are other wooden dummies obviously not made for WC. Take the CLF dummy as an example. I'm not sure it would be of much use to a WC practitioner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IFrcaZCNd4

Then when one is not enough:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J9SkR5bxYQ

Raipizo
12-12-2012, 10:24 AM
Well I guess I worded this strangely. I know there are different dummies for different styles jkd, clf. But more so I was just getting at what do you use yours for if you own one :p no matter what design.

bawang
12-12-2012, 11:04 AM
Oh that's cool. Wish I knew some then :P

the northern version is used like a normal punching pole, except the wooden arm forces you to punch at an angle to develop good habits

northern dummy is used to train dodging and evasion

usually less elaborate versions just tie a twig to a sandbag

Raipizo
12-12-2012, 04:54 PM
I'll tie a twig to you.

LFJ
12-12-2012, 06:47 PM
Well I guess I worded this strangely. I know there are different dummies for different styles jkd, clf. But more so I was just getting at what do you use yours for if you own one :p no matter what design.

I just use the WC dummy. In the Wong Shun Leung method it is to train recovery reflexes from minor mistakes or disadvantageous positions one may find themselves in during the course of a clash with an opponent.

Raipizo
12-12-2012, 07:33 PM
The clf idea of the pivoting arm seems better than stationary immobile ones.

LFJ
12-12-2012, 07:43 PM
Depends on what you're trying to achieve with it. I wouldn't find much use with the CLF dummy. It requires techniques that would violate WC principles.

Raipizo
12-12-2012, 11:16 PM
Can't you still use it for your trapping and stuff?

LFJ
12-13-2012, 12:52 AM
The goal in WC as I've learned it is to hit the opponent, not to stick or trap or anything. The dummy can't be a chi-sau or trapping tool because you can't feel energy in a dummy and it doesn't respond. Besides if it's a CLF dummy I wouldn't know what to trap without losing WC structure. There are just two low arms, one high on a spring, and a leg.

Raipizo
12-13-2012, 01:30 AM
Yeah I guess so :P

SteveLau
12-17-2012, 01:01 AM
First of all, I do not own a wooden dummy, but I would like to.
To me, the purpose of training with one is to train up fight techniques. Train up strength is not my purpose, and should not be one.



KC
Hong Kong

Kellen Bassette
12-17-2012, 05:29 AM
I like them for forearm conditioning...

Raipizo
12-18-2012, 09:01 PM
I like them for forearm conditioning...

Well you can always use striking bags for that too :p

YouKnowWho
12-18-2012, 09:09 PM
The training pole used in the north has no arms.

http://www.youtube.com/v/NyR5gIqgHC0&fs=1&source=uds&autoplay=1

You can use it more than just body condition. Without arms, you can treat the whole pole as a human body and train front cut, foot sweep, shin bite, ...

Raipizo
12-18-2012, 09:19 PM
Yeah exactly, I don't exactly see how that would help anything other than strikes or conditioning really. Just a straight pole like that.

YouKnowWho
12-18-2012, 09:35 PM
You can use a straight pole to train many skills.

http://imageshack.us/a/img696/7958/canebundle.jpg