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R0NiN
02-09-2013, 05:59 PM
I heard about this different iron palm method used by Duncan Leung "The first is what he used when he was younger, that involved soaking his hands in Chinese black vinegar and rusty nails. He discourages this, because it causes you to loose feeling in the hands." Can anyone verify/give more details on it?

xiao yao
02-09-2013, 07:11 PM
I have heard of some Shaolin guy teaching this method here in China too, but dont know any details.

Syn7
02-09-2013, 07:34 PM
I heard about this different iron palm method used by Duncan Leung "The first is what he used when he was younger, that involved soaking his hands in Chinese black vinegar and rusty nails. He discourages this, because it causes you to loose feeling in the hands." Can anyone verify/give more details on it?

Um, yeah. prolly should do that!

David Jamieson
02-11-2013, 05:46 AM
Boxers of oldy timey (and maybe a few now) will soak with pickle brine to keep the hands supple.

Hands get hard, but feel soft when you do this regularly.

Not sure why the iron is being added in the method you mention.

Dale Dugas
02-11-2013, 06:07 AM
Why would anyone destroy their hands?

This method if real is dangerous and I would say never do this.

Any method that destroys your body is foolishness, plain and simple. Why do this?

Soaking your hands in vinegar and rusty nails will cause your hand bones to soften over time. Not what you want at all.

Avoid soaks with Vinegar.

Salt softens hard in Traditional Chinese Medicine.

Kevin73
02-11-2013, 06:59 AM
Boxers of oldy timey (and maybe a few now) will soak with pickle brine to keep the hands supple.

Hands get hard, but feel soft when you do this regularly.

Not sure why the iron is being added in the method you mention.

Old school boxers soaked their hands in brine to toughen up the skin. They also used vinegar or brine to wash their faces and rub around the eyes to toughen the skin to avoid cuts.

Golden Arms
02-11-2013, 09:52 AM
Old school boxers soaked their hands in brine to toughen up the skin. They also used vinegar or brine to wash their faces and rub around the eyes to toughen the skin to avoid cuts.

Agreed, urine was also used at times. I have heard that incorrect use of the method mentioned in this post leads can lead to messed up hands as well. As with all things, real training is best learned from a teacher that has done and used it themselves.

GeneChing
02-11-2013, 11:23 AM
Agreed, urine was also used at times. Yea, that's what we used to tell the nooBs. 'Dude, it cures acne. Lemme pee on your face."

As for vinegar, I love vinegar. Our cupboard has like two dozen bottles of different vinegars. It's for salad tho, not for soaks. I remember one of the Chinese gymnastic coaches recommending a shot of apple cider vinegar every day to increase flexibility. I tried that. It was bracing. But I didn't get more flexible, nor more healthy (as many nutritionists advocate with apple cider vinegar).

I know, I know, you want to post this after this post: "Gene's just full of **** and vinegar."

sanjuro_ronin
02-11-2013, 11:28 AM
Yea, that's what we used to tell the nooBs. 'Dude, it cures acne. Lemme pee on your face."

As for vinegar, I love vinegar. Our cupboard has like two dozen bottles of different vinegars. It's for salad tho, not for soaks. I remember one of the Chinese gymnastic coaches recommending a shot of apple cider vinegar every day to increase flexibility. I tried that. It was bracing. But I didn't get more flexible, nor more healthy (as many nutritionists advocate with apple cider vinegar).

I know, I know, you want to post this after this post: "Gene's just full of **** and vinegar."

Some people pay good money....

GeneChing
02-11-2013, 11:32 AM
cuz i could use some more cash flow...:o

Golden Arms
02-11-2013, 11:43 AM
If I recall correctly some baseball players did/do use urine on their hands as well.

Kevin73
02-11-2013, 12:18 PM
Yea, that's what we used to tell the nooBs. 'Dude, it cures acne. Lemme pee on your face."

I know, I know, you want to post this after this post: "Gene's just full of **** and vinegar."

I know there are some doctors that "recommend" urine therpay (Lyoto Machida of the UFC has talked about drinking his morning pee for health reasons). The only thing from credible medical sources I have seen is that urine when it leaves the body is sterile. So washing your face with it COULD help remove the dirts and oils to fight acne. BUT, unless you are out in a jungle somewhere with nasty water, you are better just washing your face in the shower.

Syn7
02-11-2013, 12:26 PM
The rusty nails thing is a really really bad idea!!! It can kill you.

David Jamieson
02-11-2013, 12:56 PM
lol @ cash "flow"....

anyway... :p

GeneChing
02-11-2013, 01:02 PM
If I recall correctly some baseball players did/do use urine on their hands as well. Curious to hear that from someone who adopts the forum name "Golden"...:p


I know there are some doctors that "recommend" urine therpay (Lyoto Machida of the UFC has talked about drinking his morning pee for health reasons).
Believe it or not, we have a thread on that here. See health benefits of urine (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53135). Is this forum great or what? :D


lol @ cash "flow"....
Thank you, thank you! I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitress. ;)

Golden Arms
02-11-2013, 02:24 PM
Wow, that is enough of this thread for me. You guys can go do your own homework.

mickey
02-11-2013, 02:58 PM
Greetings,

I have heard of iron vinegar. I have never heard of rust being used with it. Be aware of your sources.

While it does harden the hand, it can take the hand to the point of extreme where it can become very brittle, like egg shells. So, when you really think about it, you are engaging in a leeching of the calcium from the bone with the hope that when fresh calcium is adsorbed , the bone will be stronger.


mickey

Syn7
02-11-2013, 02:59 PM
cuz i could use some more cash flow...:o

Reminds me of the R. Kelly episode of the Boondocks. Riley is hilarious in that one.