What I think really happened!

[MightyB]

It's my opinion, so it's true!

I think the original tough guy Chinese boxers used to really fight and they developed a core body of techniques. These techniques exist in all styles today.

But they got to start hanging out - one of them strings a couple of their sequences together and the others thought, "man that's cool". So not to be one-upped, they strung together a more complex sequence to use to showoff with and added a little flair. Over time, these sequences took on a new unintended meaning. Eventually the dancing, flair, and showing off started to replace the fighting as a means to display real skill. People started to attribute too much to them and started inventing all kinds of terms and mysticism to associate with them like fa-jing, yi, li and really believed that forms meant skill.

It's true that a couple of forms are good for creating a base in an uncoordinated and out of shape individual, they aren't good for teaching fighting because they were never intended for that.

They were intended to be much like this:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4448/breakdance.gif

[sanjuro_ronin]

Forms were simply the way the styles techniques were "cataloged" and able ot be trained solo.
Some were development forms too of course,like Sanchin ( Sanjian,etc...) and others developed specific attributes ( like forms with only kicks) but on a whole, they were a small part of practical MA training.

[MightyB]

Forms were simply the way the styles techniques were "cataloged" and able ot be trained solo.
Some were development forms too of course,like Sanchin ( Sanjian,etc...) and others developed specific attributes ( like forms with only kicks) but on a whole, they were a small part of practical MA training.

Nope - showing off!








:D

[Syn7]

Oh come on. At least show a gif of something that takes longer than 30 minutes to learn. That's some first day **** right there. Seriously. Every first class I have ever taught was pretty much that.

[Syn7]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/3539756_o.gif

[sanjuro_ronin]

This is how its done:
http://www.uchinadi-kan.org/images/110_seiinchin.gif

[MightyB]

Oh come on. At least show a gif of something that takes longer than 30 minutes to learn. That's some first day **** right there. Seriously. Every first class I have ever taught was pretty much that.

Step up! Bring on the gifs!

[David Jamieson]

Hey that's Krotty!!!

[Syn7]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5exh8Fi3j1qfoqsuo1_400.gif



:rolleyes:

[sanjuro_ronin]

http://www.uchinadi-kan.org/images/150_suparinpeigif.gif

[Syn7]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7jc3zjsdk1qfoqsuo1_400.gif

[MightyB]

http://www.excusememe.com/pics/imagebase/5239.gif

[David Jamieson]

B Boy & Krotty posts....

what have we become?

[Syn7]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/3b9582d0bf6b75317410888858bb51dd/tumblr_mh9quxkqM91r61izno1_400.gif

[Syn7]

B Boy & Krotty posts....

what have we become?

Interesting.

[Syn7]

http://www.excusememe.com/pics/imagebase/5239.gif

I totally remember that!


I think some of the oldskool muppets would scare kids today.

[MightyB]

I think some of the oldskool muppets would scare kids today.

Today's kids are weak. It's because they don't have the realz kung fu! They have soft fill under monkey bars for criminey sake. And what's with all the helmets? Helmets on bikes, on skis, soon they'll require helmets for walking.

[SevenStar]

They were intended to be much like this:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4448/breakdance.gif

looks like one of our drunken style forms!

[SevenStar]

Today's kids are weak. It's because they don't have the realz kung fu! They have soft fill under monkey bars for criminey sake. And what's with all the helmets? Helmets on bikes, on skis, soon they'll require helmets for walking.

nah. it's because of the heroes. we admitted John Wayne, mr. T, etc. kids today admire Justin beiber and watch twilight. I pity the fools!

[MightyB]

nah. it's because of the heroes. we admitted John Wayne, mr. T, etc. kids today admire Justin beiber and watch twilight. I pity the fools!

and our Karate people were bad @rse. We had Chuck Norris, Keith Vitali, Bill Wallace, Benny Urquidez. You could get by with a front kick and a killer mustache and only a ninja could kill a ninja.

[Kellen Bassette]

It's my opinion, so it's true!

I think the original tough guy Chinese boxers used to really fight and they developed a core body of techniques. These techniques exist in all styles today.

But they got to start hanging out - one of them strings a couple of their sequences together and the others thought, "man that's cool". So not to be one-upped, they strung together a more complex sequence to use to showoff with and added a little flair. Over time, these sequences took on a new unintended meaning. Eventually the dancing, flair, and showing off started to replace the fighting as a means to display real skill. People started to attribute too much to them and started inventing all kinds of terms and mysticism to associate with them like fa-jing, yi, li and really believed that forms meant skill.


I agree with your theory. I would also add that there have been many, many cycles of over complicating then stripping down Kung Fu.

[Vash]

This is how its done:
http://www.uchinadi-kan.org/images/110_seiinchin.gif

I quoted this with the intent of saying "dat Seiunchin," but the darn name is in the image title.

Bah.

[Syn7]

Today's kids are weak. It's because they don't have the realz kung fu! They have soft fill under monkey bars for criminey sake. And what's with all the helmets? Helmets on bikes, on skis, soon they'll require helmets for walking.

Yeah, we had some death traps for toys. Weeded out the really dumb kids. :p


Speaking of dumb kids... I got my head stuck in my lil chair when I was like 4.

[bawang]

money happened

[Brule]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/3539756_o.gif

I'l amazed at how his arm didn't break right there. That is some serious skillz....