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GeneChing
03-04-2013, 12:54 PM
Natasha & Alyshia Harlem Shake (哈林搖) Taiwan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS-2dCZm_nU)

Actually, I totally understand this video. I just needed a place to post it and we don't have a Harlem Shake thread (nor do we need one).

David Jamieson
03-04-2013, 01:35 PM
Natasha & Alyshia Harlem Shake (哈林搖) Taiwan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS-2dCZm_nU)

Actually, I totally understand this video. I just needed a place to post it and we don't have a Harlem Shake thread (nor do we need one).

Actually, THIS is the only harlem shake ever required...

http://i.imgur.com/ISf3l04.gif

Syn7
03-04-2013, 01:45 PM
Ugghh. There already is a Harlem Shake. The name is taken. Retards who spazz around a room need not apply. :p

This is dance. The current Harlem Shake memes are talentless crap. I don't have issue with the activity itself, just the misnomer that *******izes something real artists put real time into. I see this the way I see LARPers who make up weird kung fu forms a la sith style. Do your thing, but stay outta my arena.



This is the Harlem Shake.

http://jezebel.com/harlem-shake/

David Jamieson
03-04-2013, 01:52 PM
Ugghh. There already is a Harlem Shake. The name is taken. Retards who spazz around a room need not apply. :p

This is dance. The current Harlem Shake memes are talentless crap. I don't have issue with the activity itself, just the misnomer that *******izes something real artists put real time into. I see this the way I see LARPers who make up weird kung fu forms a la sith style. Do your thing, but stay outta my arena.



This is the Harlem Shake.

http://jezebel.com/harlem-shake/

lol.

i think the original is not that but rather, pink pyjama dude on yourtube...

still, here we have one of our dear members overseeing a shake in animated style. :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TuTFZLyCq3U

Syn7
03-04-2013, 02:20 PM
David David David! This is animation...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzb9f0tR5Bo



You can geek out in a crowd and just name it after something that already exists. That's like the fat kid in his garage rocking out his sith styles saying he is doing Hung Gar. I can see why Hung Gar cats would be annoyed by that.

I dunno, I would rather watch real dancing with real skills. But hey, that's just me. Lol. :D

The Harlem Shake is an easy dance with many more complicated variations. Like the Charleston. If you don't have a certain set of the fundamentals of the dance, it's something else entirely.

Here is the bare bones Harlem Shake. I don't really like it much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gV5U-k8t0M

Itsa stupida danca anywaysa, ay!!! I never liked it in the first place. It's ok when girls do it well, I guess.

GeneChing
03-04-2013, 02:58 PM
If for no other reason, as a support group for the Harlem Shake h8rs! ;)

Harlem Shake KUNG-FU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-FO3SAtMmE)
Harlem Shake (Kung Fu Style!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgtd_zQm1IE)

Syn7
03-04-2013, 04:31 PM
HSHA

Step one: We admitted we were powerless over our hate of the fake Harlem Shake - that our lives had become unmanageable...............

David Jamieson
03-04-2013, 04:35 PM
David David David! This is animation...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzb9f0tR5Bo



You can geek out in a crowd and just name it after something that already exists. That's like the fat kid in his garage rocking out his sith styles saying he is doing Hung Gar. I can see why Hung Gar cats would be annoyed by that.

I dunno, I would rather watch real dancing with real skills. But hey, that's just me. Lol. :D

The Harlem Shake is an easy dance with many more complicated variations. Like the Charleston. If you don't have a certain set of the fundamentals of the dance, it's something else entirely.

Here is the bare bones Harlem Shake. I don't really like it much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gV5U-k8t0M

Itsa stupida danca anywaysa, ay!!! I never liked it in the first place. It's ok when girls do it well, I guess.

I used that one because that is Kisu's gig... :p

GeneChing
03-05-2013, 12:55 PM
HARLEM SHAKE: The Evolve Fight Team Edition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmpm_msnkxw#!) WARNING: This vid confirms all of your fears about MMA.

Come on now. We didn't really have a gangnam style thread, just this (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1198826#post1198826).



Step one: We admitted we were powerless over our hate of the fake Harlem Shake - that our lives had become unmanageable...............

Step two: Came to believe that a Power greater than our hate of the fake Harlem Shake could restore us to sanity.

MightyB
03-06-2013, 09:15 AM
I convinced a retirement home to do a Harlem Shake. I hope this gets scheduled before my new job starts.

sanjuro_ronin
03-06-2013, 09:20 AM
Did you guys here about those 4 dudes that broke out a semi-nude harlem shake in a Cairo neighborhood and are no facing serious jail time ( if not more).
LOL !

David Jamieson
03-06-2013, 09:51 AM
Did you guys here about those 4 dudes that broke out a semi-nude harlem shake in a Cairo neighborhood and are no facing serious jail time ( if not more).
LOL !

Yes and this in turn caused a cascade effect where harlem shake is now a legitimate form of protest in Egypt.

I love this planet. So weird, so wonderful and it's inhabitants are whack!

GeneChing
03-06-2013, 10:52 AM
Didn't expect this to go there...thanks for the lead, s_r & DJ! Our forum disseminates only the most interesting news...:rolleyes:

Harlem Shake-up: from meme to Middle East movement (http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/6/4070600/how-harlem-shake-went-from-meme-to-message-egypt-tunisia)
As the dance craze passes its saturation point in the US, it's evolving into a political rallying cry in Egypt and Tunisia
By Amar Toor on March 6, 2013 11:00 am Email @amartoo 30Comments

For most people, the words "Harlem Shake" evoke images of arrhythmic hip thrusts, ridiculous costumes, and cringeworthy choreography. But for Mahmoud Tabei, the irrepressible internet meme carries a far more meaningful connotation. Tabei, 17, is one of many young Egyptians who have begun producing "Harlem Shake" videos not for LOLs or viral fame, but as a means of peaceful protest against his country’s conservative Islamist government.

Late last month, he and three other friends formed the "Satiric Revolutionary Struggle" — an opposition group devoted to making political statements through humorous demonstrations. Their first order of business? Shooting a "Harlem Shake" video outside the Muslim Brotherhood’s Cairo headquarters.

"We were tired of the protests and the blood and the martyrs," Tabei says. After months of political unrest, Tabei says he and his friends see the "Harlem Shake" meme not only as a platform for their message of reform, but as a way to "raise the hopes and spirits" of an increasingly frustrated opposition movement.

Tabei isn't alone, either. As the nonsensical trend passes its saturation point in the West, it's evolving into a distinctly more political phenomenon in both Egypt and Tunisia, where students and opposition movements have re-appropriated Baauer's bass-heavy anthem as a rallying cry for reform — much to the chagrin (and perhaps befuddlement) of conservative authorities.

""an insult to the educational message.""

The transformation from meme to message began late last month, when Egyptian police arrested four pharmaceutical students for publicly recording a "Harlem Shake" video in their underwear — an act that officials from Egypt’s conservative ruling party described as "scandalous." A similar controversy erupted in Tunisia just days later, when education minister Abdeltif Abid promised to launch a vigorous investigation into a "Harlem Shake" video filmed at a high school in Tunis. Threatening swift punishment for those responsible, Abid condemned the act as an "insult to the educational message."

As is so often the case, though, these crackdowns have only fanned the flames of discontent, emboldening progressive-minded youths to produce even more "Shake" videos, while underscoring the profound social divides that threaten to derail two of the region's most fragile democracies.

In Tunisia, Abid's condemnation was widely interpreted as a symbol of the country’s gradual shift toward hard-line Islamic fundamentalism. Secularists and ultra-conservative Salafist Muslims have been at odds ever since early 2011, when the Arab Spring revolution forced then-President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali to flee the country.

Today, the government is led by the moderate Islamist Ennahda party, though many still criticize its leaders — including Abid — for tolerating, or even aligning themselves with extreme Salafist interests. Radical Salafists sparked outrage in June, when they destroyed "blasphemous" artwork at a Tunis gallery, and again in February, when members of the sect were charged with the murder of opposition leader Chokri Belaid.

"an ideological tug of war"

Egypt, too, remains bitterly divided along ideological lines. Its current president, Mohammed Morsi, ascended to office last June, in Egypt's first election since the resignation of longtime leader Hosni Mubarak. Yet despite promises of democratic-minded reform, the Morsi government remains littered with Mubarak loyalists, and his ruling Freedom and Justice Party — an Islamist coalition led by the staunchly conservative Muslim Brotherhood — has been entangled in violent clashes with secular activists over the consolidation of presidential power.

Considering this moralistic tug-of-war, then, it's no surprise that "Harlem Shake," with its grind-friendly bassline and sexually suggestive choreography, would cause such a stir among traditionalist leaders.

This isn't the first time that an internet meme has been appropriated as a tool of protest — in January, a group of Chinese construction workers staged a Gangnam Style dance in protest over unpaid wages — but the demonstrations of recent weeks have unfolded on a notably larger scale.

To date, variations on the meme have surfaced in just about every country across the Middle East, from Algeria to Yemen; yet only in Egypt and Tunisia have they been squarely directed at political leaders. And only in these countries have they been met with such highly publicized controversy — and, in some cases, physical confrontations.

"Dancing Mania, on an internet scale"

When a group of students tried to stage their own "Harlem Shake" last month in Sousse — a city some 75 miles south of Tunis — their principal called the police who, according to an interior ministry spokesman, had no choice but to "respond with tear gas." Others in Tunisia have had their demonstrations met with counter-protests from radical Salafists, with some reportedly chastising the youths for dancing while "our brothers in Palestine are being killed by Israelis."

Indeed, it almost seems as if the "Harlem Shake" phenomenon is the Middle East’s equivalent of Dancing Mania — an inexplicable European craze that sometimes saw thousands of people simultaneously dance to the point of exhaustion between the 14th and 17th centuries. At the time, some attributed the behavior to religious cults or curses, though it is now characterized as a mass psychogenic illness, driven by snowballing social influence rather than any real physical ailment.

Authorities in Egypt and Tunisia appear similarly confused about how to handle this year's "Harlem Shake" outbreak. Whereas officials in Tunisia responded with seemingly knee-jerk police force and threats of legal action, Muslim Brotherhood member Ahmad al-Mogheer this week took a more curious route, releasing his own "Shake" video in retaliation.

Perhaps some of this confusion can be attributed to the comparatively inscrutable nature of the meme itself. Egyptian belly dancer Sama El Masr sparked similar controversy last year, with a series of videos in which she openly criticized Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood. Although some "Harlem Shake" demonstrators have donned masks of loathed political leaders, other performances have been as chaotic and nonsensical as the song itself, lacking a coherent message for authorities to latch onto.

""it's detracting from the larger conversation that needs to be happening.""

But for Tabei and others, the medium — no matter how ridiculous — is a big part of the message. "Look, dancing in the street is something abnormal in Egyptian society," Tabei told The Verge. "It is not in our tradition. People say it is morally bad — 'Oh, that’s un-Islamic!' So that’s why we chose 'Harlem Shake,' because it’s this kind of behavior that the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafists consider haram [forbidden by Islamic law]."

The obvious risk, of course, is that in using such a trivial medium, Tabei and other reform advocates threaten to dilute, or detract from their underlying cause — a phenomenon that’s already unfolding in Tunisia, according to Nura Suleiman, an American alumni coordinator at the Center for Maghreb Studies in Tunis.

"It's interesting to see how 'Harlem Shake' has evolved," Suleiman explains. "At first, there seemed to be a genuine fascination with it, and there were all these websites devoted to the various renditions. Now, some people are beginning to think it's kind of frivolous, and that it's detracting from the larger conversation that needs to be happening around freedom of expression."

Revolution

But the tactic could also put Tabei and other activists in an advantageous position, as far as the media is concerned. For the Brotherhood, responding to dancing teenagers with physical force certainly wouldn't make for great front-page headlines — something Egypt's Shakers are keenly aware of.

Ultimately, though, Tabei remains realistic about the chances of a viral video resulting in any substantive change. After having already seen seven of his friends killed since the beginning of the Arab Spring, the teenager is markedly disillusioned with his country's revolution. Publicity aside, he says a fundamental goal of his group’s "Harlem Shake" movement is to simply build morale — a way to "refresh our minds in order to continue with our larger struggle."

What shape that struggle takes going forward remains unclear, though Tabei says their next stunt won't rely so heavily on viral video or quirky internet memes. Instead, the Satiric Revolutionary Struggle will hold a marathon in Cairo, beginning at the headquarters of the National Democratic Party — the now-defunct party of former President Mubarak — and ending at the Muslim Brotherhood's headquarters.

It’s a path meant to symbolize Egypt's political trajectory from Mubarak to Morsi. Its message, according to Tabei, should be clear: "They are the same. Nothing has changed."

Syn7
03-06-2013, 12:23 PM
Yeah, they would have done it wrong anyways. :p

Anyone who wiggles around like that and calls it the Harlem Shake needs a good beating and a lil seg time. :D

Syn7
03-06-2013, 03:25 PM
Step #3: Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.



Only Jesus can help me not hate on the pseudo Harlem Shake....!!!
Unfortunately he refuses to speak with me. Some **** about my attitude or something. I dunno, I wasn't really listening. ;)

GeneChing
03-11-2013, 04:53 PM
DO THE HARLEM SHAKE - Kung Fu Panties Edition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYVQOQKpLxQ)

We've been following Kung Fu Panties (http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65278) and we expected so much more. :(

diego
05-29-2013, 09:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlZkD6r2qpo


http://www.kungfulibrary.com/drunkadr-kung-fu-big.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLzITWeXXi4&list=PL95DB1B3140A87DC0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrTqyGp2beU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=t66xnoOHmOw

so harlem shake is a gay twitchy dance from the 80's you tweak your shoulders with movement from the hips not the trend of bouncing around like a jerk off.. it's kind of interesting if you compare the original old school movement with the uncoordinated internet meme **** that was the latest fad...it reminds me of like shaolin do vs real hung gar videos or whatever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGH2HEgWppc


which brings me to leung tings drunken book with Chiu Chung Yat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_OFay3-iY0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UdOX160kt4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fISOffaddhs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dFoZHVY-9Gw

I always thought it was a cool book but I wonder did they make up the set in the 70's or is that book legit?

hskwarrior
05-29-2013, 09:38 AM
send this sh1t to the wing chun section. wtf

David Jamieson
05-29-2013, 09:56 AM
send this sh1t to the wing chun section. wtf

"So it is written, so it shall be done!" - Yul Brenner as Pharoah

Wayfaring
05-29-2013, 10:15 AM
send this sh1t to the wing chun section. wtf

LOL. Awesome.

diego
05-29-2013, 10:23 AM
send this sh1t to the wing chun section. wtf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLzITWeXXi4&list=PL95DB1B3140A87DC0

^how is this wing chun? I forgot to ask is there any video of southern wanderer/begger gung fu online?

David Jamieson
05-29-2013, 11:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLzITWeXXi4&list=PL95DB1B3140A87DC0

^how is this wing chun? I forgot to ask is there any video of southern wanderer/begger gung fu online?


It's not, but it's not black tiger either. It's a side set if you will, of which there are a few in this particular family.

source: I train with one of the senior practitioners of this stye, he's my friend. :)

shaolin_allan
05-29-2013, 11:56 AM
it's not wing chun, it's videos of zui quan.

David Jamieson
05-29-2013, 12:15 PM
Just have a gander at this...whatever it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sU8xVMwzxS4#!

lkfmdc
05-29-2013, 12:38 PM
Just have a gander at this...whatever it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sU8xVMwzxS4#!

I don't know which is worse

That,..........

or the praise for it in the comments :eek:

k gledhill
05-29-2013, 02:44 PM
Why is this crap in vt ?

YouKnowWho
05-29-2013, 03:03 PM
The drunking style uses the "water" principle that you only respond to your opponent's attack (the lake water is calm until you throw a rock into it). If your opponent punches you face with a jab, you spin your body and return with a hook (or haymaker), that's the water principle (when you throw a rock into lake, water will jump up). IMO, the drunking style is very hard to master. Your opponent punches your face, you lean your body back, allow the punch to miss on top of your head. You then wrap your opponent's punching arm, spin your body, and do your thing. You have to allow your opponent's attack to be so close to your body, you then yield, spin, and counter. It's excellent concept but it's a bit too "conservative" and too "risky" for my taste.

Almost A Ghost
05-29-2013, 04:03 PM
Just have a gander at this...whatever it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sU8xVMwzxS4#!

I'm under the strong assumption he's a former Shao-lin Do guy that went out on his own.

Kymus
05-29-2013, 08:28 PM
I'm under the strong assumption he's a former Shao-lin Do guy that went out on his own.

Bingo. Sin The took him to court. http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=115628

diego
05-29-2013, 10:14 PM
It's not, but it's not black tiger either. It's a side set if you will, of which there are a few in this particular family.

source: I train with one of the senior practitioners of this stye, he's my friend. :)

do you know the history of the set I don't want to pester them with lineage questions on their youtube channel:)

Does anyone have info on Chiu Chung Yat he does the set slow I thought it would have mantis style fast tempo like I can't tell from a youtube clip if it's an old school set with ging or just something they made up for a shaw bros movie routine...then you got these blond shaolin do guys on youtube, you really can't judge off one video clip lmao.:rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UdOX160kt4 when he does the horse punches he shows power, but I really cant tell as it looks like he's walking the postures for the camera.


This really doesnt belong in the wing chun forum lol, I do bak mei and that's wwhat I'm leading to with the drunken motion questions..I'm interested in the shoulder shaking motions.

diego
05-29-2013, 10:17 PM
http://www.bgtent.com/naturalcma/CMAarticle28.htm

I remember Sal Canzonieri's description of Vagabond school always sounded cool in the pre-youtube days, does anyone have any clip-links from like Hong Kong Kung Fu Corner or a Wu Shu demo labeled in Chinese featuring Vagabond-Wanderer style?.

SoCo KungFu
05-29-2013, 10:28 PM
Bingo. Sin The took him to court. http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=115628

You know, this actually goes a bit of a way in explaining some things. For instance, this Jake Mace guy's unwillingness to come out about his kung fu lineage (not like I really care about that anyways). It would make sense that he avoids that question so much in his threads on youtube, particularly after he was discovered here, if it has some bearing on a non-disclosure agreement as part of the legal case.

I almost (almost) feel a little bad for the guy. I mean, its obvious his stuff isn't legit. Rather its not "traditional." Which I really don't care much about. But speaking in terms of what I do know of his stuff, his mantis is off. It doesn't seem to follow any sort of conceptual approach, 12 keys etc. I can't speak much else on his kung fu since I only have a basic understanding from my time in Hung Gar before I jumped ship to MMA. But that said, he's no different than any other SD'er out there that I know (I served with some in the military), or 90% of the "legit" kung fu'ers for that matter.

But he seems like a decent enough guy. I don't think he means anyone wrong. And what some seem to take as an arrogant attitude, I think he just comes across as enthusiastic for what I perceive as his love in life. Its obvious he's a health nut, even if a number of his views are misguided (such as some of his beliefs in certain diets, etc.).

Really, I don't see many people here on KFM that have much leg to stand on in criticizing him. Many here, I would put in the same boat as this Jake Mace/Jacob Rydberg guy. That' will probably **** a lot of people here off (as if I was worried about that). But frankly, if you're the type that gets overly offended by that comment, I'm probably talking about you.

I just don't know if I can really hold it against the guy. He comes across as sincere. Then again, those that actually believe their own lie are often the most convincing.

That said, ****, I mean I'm drunk off Troeg's right now but that drunken boxing was just.... /facepalm

Kymus
05-30-2013, 05:20 AM
Well, a few things..

Certainly the guy seems nice, he's charismatic. I'm sure he's a good teacher. He's probably a great kids instructor. But he's teaching a lie, and he knows that (at least after that court case, I would really hope he would know that he's doing kuntao and sh!t Sin The learned from books). Considering that he's deceptively marketing what he does as "ancient Shaolin", I can't feel pitty for all the criticism he gets on here.

I have to disagree with you - to a point - that what Jake Mace does is just the same as 90% of TCMA's. In the interest of not bringning up a giant discussion and really derailing this thread (more than it already has..), I'm going to leave out all the discussion of what's wrong with TMA today, etc. etc.

This is how I see it:

Jake Mace is the Tiger Shulman of Kung Fu. It's a McKwoon. An honest McKwoon, perhaps, but still a McKwoon.

Personally, I feel like the average TMA can at least put up halfway decent of a fight, but this stuff Mace teaches is just downright embarassing.

addendum: here's the simple version, I think:

One could be a better fighter if they spent more time practicing their techniques
The other may never be a good fighter because they learned bullsh!t