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ngokfei
03-23-2013, 11:34 AM
have done these for special orders in the past. After receiving a number of inquiry we put together a few different models.

This is the Student "Top Loading" Model.

- 11 openings that can hold staffs/spears
- 3 special - able to hold Blades & Ball/Ring Pomel Lances (Kwandao/Pu Dao)
- 1 extra special - able to hold Butterfly Knives/Nan Dao/Hook Swords, etc.

(customization is available as well for a nominal cost)

The Design is Strong and Stable - option of a "Full Free Standing Base" or a "1/2 Wall Supporting Base" (Free Wall Mounting Kit Available)

Cost: $99.95 (plus S&H).

GoldenBrain
03-23-2013, 05:59 PM
Nice rack man! Sorry, I just had to say it. ;)

Seriously though it looks like a fine bit of craftsmanship so I hope you sell a bunch of them.

ngokfei
03-23-2013, 06:26 PM
LOL, didn't think of that.

I actually enjoy creating things probably more then making $$ off of it (doesn't make the wife happy LOL)

Just have had alot of requests lately. What I've seen are expensive and not very well made. Also I don't mind customizing each item to fit the user's needs. This is no exception.

thanks again.

MasterKiller
03-23-2013, 09:23 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/419HRA9XXWL._SY450_.jpg

$20

yeshe
03-24-2013, 12:14 AM
Sorry,so ghetto

MasterKiller
03-24-2013, 06:32 AM
Sorry,so ghetto

You probably wear your best silks to practice too, huh?

-N-
03-24-2013, 06:58 AM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/419HRA9XXWL._SY450_.jpg

$20

Cordless hedge trimmer is deadly.

yeshe
03-24-2013, 07:36 AM
You probably wear your best silks to practice too, huh?
no, just lion dance pants and the fury shoes.

ngokfei
03-24-2013, 09:55 PM
Hey I got one of those in my garage.
and its functional if thats all you need.

3 things I don't like about it is:

1. man its too cluttered - so a visual mess.

2. its a top loader - so if you 've got low ceilings - kind of difficult to get your kwandao or long poles/spears out.

3. Also the spike of a kwandao or any large lance will not fit into the openings.

Master Killer since I believe you have one, post a pic so we can see what looks like with actual weapons in it.

MasterKiller
03-25-2013, 06:27 AM
Master Killer since I believe you have one, post a pic so we can see what looks like with actual weapons in it.

I'll take a pic. Mine looks like this:

http://yardsurfer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/garden-tool-rack.jpg

Loads from the front so it's easy to get things out of. I also have a traditional weapons rack, but honestly the legs take up too much space.

GoldenBrain
03-25-2013, 08:35 AM
Not to take away from Eric's handy work but that second one you posted appears to be a really good off the shelf solution for a weapon rack MK. The traditional ones that I've seen, even from reputable websites are just pieces of junk, so this would seem to be a sturdy alternative for those who can't make their own or don't know where to buy a custom piece.

bawang
03-25-2013, 08:49 AM
theres no skill needed in making a "kung fu rack". its just a rack.

omarthefish
03-25-2013, 03:41 PM
weapons rack:
http://iwatchstuff.com/2013/03/07/machete-vergara.jpg

ngokfei
03-25-2013, 07:49 PM
masterkiller

ah now thats a better version. How much and where?

I don't have any issue of referring individuals to these items. Like I've always said the things I do is just a side hobby and not my primary source of income.

If I can provide a service, then great.

Ballwang - whatever. Skill is something you don't have. Oh I take that back, you have the skill of annoying others. very marketable. I await your mind blowing response. LOL:p

ngokfei
03-25-2013, 08:05 PM
Hey Ballwang. Once you hit post, you can't delete.

bawang has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - Kung Fu Weapon Rack
- in the Kung Fu Forum forum of Kung Fu Magazine Forums.

This thread is located at:
http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65608&goto=newpost

Here is the message that has just been posted:
***************
im glad you changed your name "oriental signboards" and moved on to 1999.

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???????zzzzzzzzzzzz

bawang
03-25-2013, 08:45 PM
well, i thought you changed it, but when i clicked its still orientalsignboards.com. so ur still a weird jack ass.

do u also sell negro basketball jersey? nipper gis?

ngokfei
03-26-2013, 07:23 AM
See nothing wrong with the name.
oooh that took thought

time to educate:


o·ri·en·tal
[awr-ee-en-tl, ohr‐] Show IPA
adjective
1.
( usually initial capital letter ) of, pertaining to, or characteristic of the Orient, or East; Eastern.
2.
of the orient or east; eastern.
3.
( initial capital letter ) Zoogeography . belonging to a geographical division comprising southern Asia and the Malay Archipelago as far as and including the Philippines, Borneo, and Java.
4.
Jewelry.
a.
( usually initial capital letter ) designating various gems that are varieties of corundum: Oriental aquamarine; Oriental ruby.
b.
fine or precious; orient: oriental agate; oriental garnet.
c.
designating certain natural saltwater pearls found especially in the Orient.
noun
5.
( usually initial capital letter ) a native or inhabitant of the Orient.

The modern Urban Dictionary details it more appropriately in the way I use it in describing an Object not a Person
URBAN DICTIONARY (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=oriental)

have no idea what the last thing your wrote means:

ngokfei
03-26-2013, 07:43 AM
so back to Weapon Racks sold by the Oriental Signboards Workshop:

Below is the Sifu "Combo" Rack which allows individuals with low ceiling heights or weapons like the Kwandao/Monk Spade to be stored by means of a front Loading Design.

- 11 Place (3 Combo Openings, 4 Front Loading Slots, 4 Standard Openings) $139.95

David Jamieson
03-26-2013, 08:10 AM
@ Eric - in case you didn't know, and I don't think you do, the term "oriental" used in context to Asian peoples, things or activities is considered somewhat derogatory in this day and age. It is akin to calling a Chinese person a "chinaman" or some such other term.

It fell out of use long ago really and hence the remarks about it and the request if you had negro basket ball jerseys which aligns with how you use the term Oriental.

Seeing as you don't get what he is saying.

ngokfei
03-26-2013, 08:26 AM
uh David, did you read what I posted. :confused:

Guess not.

:)

Kellen Bassette
03-26-2013, 08:29 AM
We prefer the term "Mongolian." :cool:

GoldenBrain
03-26-2013, 08:34 AM
I like your work Eric, but I have to agree with Bawang and DJ on this one. Using the word Oriental to describe anything Asian is akin to using the word Negroid for describing people of African decent. Sure there is also a definition for the word Negroid but it's a bit taboo to use it in this day and age.

Kellen Bassette
03-26-2013, 08:39 AM
I like your work Eric, but I have to agree with Bawang and DJ on this one. Using the word Oriental to describe anything Asian is akin to using the word Negroid for describing people of African decent. Sure there is also a definition for the word Negroid but it's a bit taboo to use it in this day and age.

I like all those words, I'm only offended by "Caucasian." I prefer "whitey," "h0nkey," or just "the man."

David Jamieson
03-26-2013, 08:40 AM
uh David, did you read what I posted. :confused:

Guess not.

:)

Yeah I did. A dictionary definition is not educational in regards to what is said and regarding why you are confused by what Bawang is saying to you.

That you don't understand that the term is no longer regarded as worthy due to it being used to infer Asians were subordinate speaks volumes though.

lkfmdc
03-26-2013, 08:50 AM
Just when I thought I had seen the most stupid argument on here already :rolleyes:

Just a little FYI for all the arm chair experts

It is considered politically incorrect to refer to PEOPLE as "Oriental"

"Oriental" is a rug, or an OBJECT

Considering Eric sells wooden OBJECTS, they can be called "oriental"

GoldenBrain
03-26-2013, 09:25 AM
Okay, I'll concede that point lkfmdc. Objects can be referred to as oriental as my Anthropologist wife points out but if people are offended by it maybe there should be pause for consideration.

lkfmdc
03-26-2013, 09:29 AM
Okay, I'll concede that point lkfmdc. Objects can be referred to as oriental as my Anthropologist wife points out but if people are offended by it maybe there should be pause for consideration.

people get too easily offended these days, they need to grow a thicker skin...

most of those offended by "oriental" don't even know why they are supposed to be offended by the term

GoldenBrain
03-26-2013, 09:30 AM
I like all those words, I'm only offended by "Caucasian." I prefer "whitey," "h0nkey," or just "the man."


That's funny!!! :D You are the man and we should all take a moment to reflect on this. Okay moments over, now back to our regular programming.

ngokfei
03-26-2013, 09:36 AM
We agree to disagree.

If my products are judged by the name of the company, so be it.:D

GoldenBrain
03-26-2013, 09:39 AM
people get too easily offended these days, they need to grow a thicker skin...

most of those offended by "oriental" don't even know why they are supposed to be offended by the term

Maybe so. My thoughts on this may just be a product of working to long in politically correct corporate America. However, other than obviously joking around I'll prolly still maintain a more considerate or rather safer approach to how I refer to other races, even their rugs.

SPJ
03-26-2013, 11:06 AM
If you only had a few, a rack is good.

If you have so many,

I lay them on the floor flatly.

:)

YouKnowWho
03-26-2013, 11:13 AM
Your swords are not for displayed. You should hide it

- behind the door,
- in the closet,
- under the sofa,
- ...

Always make sure that when you see a stranger appears in your front door, you will be able to reach one of your swords ASAP.

Weapon is for "...". It's not for "display".

Kellen Bassette
03-26-2013, 11:18 AM
Always make sure that when you see a stranger appears in your front door, you will be able to reach one of your swords ASAP.

Weapon is for "...". It's not for "display".

I love your quotes John...will you please move up north and teach me Shuai Chiao? :D

Lokhopkuen
03-29-2013, 11:16 AM
have done these for special orders in the past. After receiving a number of inquiry we put together a few different models.

This is the Student "Top Loading" Model.

- 11 openings that can hold staffs/spears
- 3 special - able to hold Blades & Ball/Ring Pomel Lances (Kwandao/Pu Dao)
- 1 extra special - able to hold Butterfly Knives/Nan Dao/Hook Swords, etc.

(customization is available as well for a nominal cost)

The Design is Strong and Stable - option of a "Full Free Standing Base" or a "1/2 Wall Supporting Base" (Free Wall Mounting Kit Available)

Cost: $79.95 (plus S&H).

Looks like quality craftsmenship Master Hargrove.

ngokfei
03-29-2013, 07:08 PM
Thanks for the compliment. I'm no master, still a novice in training.:cool:

SPJ
03-30-2013, 08:18 AM
nice to have a rack or two

I just use a rope or a piece of cloth to tie up my practice "weapons" in a bundle

like hay

--

a rack is good for display as pointed out

I like to bundle my practice "weapons"

it is easier to carry around and place them in the trunk of a car

you do not want to carry a rack to the park or outdoor practice area

--

:)

ngokfei
03-31-2013, 11:45 AM
For traveling I like to use a "Double - Ski Bag". It can handle even the tallest & widest Long Weapons.

I remember when attending tournaments in California, Texas of Florida you'd see in the numerous people getting their Ski Bags from the luggage area.

We got some really strange looks from the locals. LOL

The red one below is what I had. But the next one is really cool to have.

GeneChing
04-02-2013, 03:53 PM
I got this weapons rack from the Shaolin Forge (http://www.martialartsmart.com/weapons-shaolin-forge-weapons.html) many years ago. It can hold up to five one-handed weapons. It is hand-carved out of some soft wood and stained to mimic rosewood. It has a nice dragon in relief on the faceplate. I've broken one of the rests as the wood is so soft, but it was easy enough to repair.

These were never sold there. They just carved them in their spare time to display their swords. When I asked if I could buy one, they thought I was nuts as no one ever bought the racks, and certainly not a foreigner. Finally, after much haggling, we agreed on a price. It was outrageously cheap for something hand-carved, like $10/20 USD or so.

I also use a wall-hanging rifle rack for some other swords. I also have this circular metal table frame that was designed to support a glass table top. I bought that years ago really cheap too because the tabletop had shattered and the shop just wanted to unload it. It's a sturdy metal frame and holds my other weapons like flowers in a vase. I can pack dozens of weapons in that one.

ngokfei
04-03-2013, 10:59 AM
One of things we do before offering a product is to research whats out there.

China's mass production material is generally garbage for any real Martial Artist to use. They use soft pine that is weak and therefore cracks and chips easily. Also the fasteners become loose in a very short period of time so the thing just falls apart.:(

China's finish is inferior. They try to cover up imperfections by using plaster product over coat. You've probably already experienced that on their weapons, in a short time the handles finish cracks with paint and plaster falling off (quite messy).:eek:

We take the time to create a durable finish through multiple steps of sanding, sealing, coating and sanding again until smooth before any stain or paint is applied and then add a clear coat as over kill quality control.:D

Our products are made one at a time. We even allow customization from the customer at little or no cost.

And what makes it even worse is that China Products are more, yes more expensive then what we charge.:confused:

So if you want something that is going to last through the years and still look good, and made in the good old USA , contact us below.

GeneChing
04-03-2013, 11:13 AM
And what makes it even worse is that China Products are more, yes more expensive then what we charge.:confused: You can beat $10/20 USD? ;) Seriously, I hear ya, ngokfei. Don't even get me started on Chinese product quality control. Our reps are in China now to crack the whip once again on our factories and buyers. And we still get the occasional shipment that has to be discarded for inferior quality.

But I love my little Shaolin weapon rack. It has a lot of sentimental value.

ngokfei
04-03-2013, 11:57 AM
well you got me there Gene. I could do it but no profit at all even though I could probably crank it out in an hour or 2. Can't beat what workers are paid in China compared to lets say a living wage here in the US;)

Now most of the blades I've gotten are okay (some from you guys ) as practice/student weapons but its always the shaft and handles that are really garbage.

I've had to buy a box of non-tapered Bo staffs (the low quality ones) and replace all the handles.

I learned how to replace the crappy handles on swords and sabers from your old Sifu WL. I used to spend some time repairing my sifu's swords allthe time, with wire, chopsticks, washers, etc. Finally it was easier to get a piece of hard wood and just make a new handle. They are still in use today after almost 30 years.

If you look at the weapons in the photo you'll see that i've re-finished the blades (Golden Sword Yuen). After time the chrome got thin and pitted. I just used a can of Gold Chrome Paint and ... But you got to really prepare the metal before hand or else it'll just chip off.

Perhaps you should do a section called "This Old Kwoon" LOL:D

GeneChing
04-03-2013, 12:25 PM
I did an article on sword refurbishing a long time ago - back in our Sword Special (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=567): 9 Simple Rules of Sword Maintenance The Basic Care and Feeding of Your Sword. I always tweak my weapons - it's the force of habit being a former swordmaker. But again, I hear ya. The quality of low-end and middle-end weapons has been declining, especially with traditional weapons. The high-end has been getting better but also so freaking expensive.

I'm not a big fan of chrome. Then again, I've been sorting a lot of my old weapons recently and I'm embarrassed at how many have fallen into a state of disrepair.

ngokfei
04-04-2013, 11:06 AM
There is alot more variety on higher end weapons these days. This shows the industry is growing and long time exponents are looking to upgrade.

That is something I do as well. I offer products that range from Economy all the way to high end art (if I may be so bold!! LOL)

Beginners/novice are just starting out and need to keep cost in mind along with functionality so there will always be a market for the Economy Line items.

The average practitioner does it as a hobby and at most trains 2-3 times a week so their equipment will tend to last a while.

The following link is to a great site but they are more for actual/real bladed weapons then the Chrome practice ones.
Sword Restoration and maintenance (http://www.chinese-swords-guide.com/remove-rust.html)

GeneChing
04-04-2013, 11:36 AM
100% agreement.
There are longstanding traditions about weapon display, not only in Chinese culture, but in many other cultures as well. For a premium quality sword, it would be disrespectful to hide it.

We did a short article on it in our sword special. It's nice to hear that you think so highly of that one, SKM - it was on of my personal favs too. See The Feng Shui of Sword Display: A place to hang your sword (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=612) by Wilson Sun (with Gigi Oh & Gene Ching)

GeneChing
04-04-2013, 02:12 PM
And thanks for keeping our back issues (http://www.martialartsmart.com/magazines.html) so well preserved. That's very reaffirming.

I remember having a Police Officer inspect my home many years ago. He told me that weapons were prized items among thieves. My home was robbed four years ago. (https://www.tigerclaw.com/blog/2009/08/kung-fu-fighting-bench-vs-pom-door/) Strangely, they didn't steal any of my weapons. I'm thankful for that.

I just realized that I've been remiss in my duties here to plug our primary sponsor. If you're not looking for something custom made by our dear member, ngokfei, and are okay with a weapons rack 'off the rack' so to speak, MartialArtsMart.com offers a selection of different racks for your weapon racking needs. See Weapons Stands & Racks (http://www.martialartsmart.com/weapons-stands-racks-cases.html). :)

ngokfei
05-08-2013, 06:52 PM
Here's one I recently did a customer with a low ceiling height basement.

ngokfei
06-05-2013, 09:00 AM
Well this customer went all out with their requests (good thing because I can't find my box of old photos of the previous racks i've done over the years)

Student Weapon Rack with Upgrades
- Mortise & Tenon Profiled Leg Base with Brackets*
- Latched opening to allow a Lance with base spike
- Hanging Pegs
- Rustic Textured Surface to hide those nasty fingerprints
- Post Dragon Pommels
Only $149 (plus S&H)