Martial arts myths: which have you believed at one point or another?

[IronFist]

This poll is anonymous, don't worry.

Vote for as many as you want.

I am guilty of believing most of these in the past :o

[David Jamieson]

go poll yourself poll boy.

say, where is this poll you claim there is anyway? :p

EDIT: Your polls suck. Can you show us on the bear where the bad sensei touched you man? :p

[Lucas]

I chose the last one and still believe it. Its misleading though. If you take a karateka and a kungfu man and they have a stand up fight. Yes the figher will make the difference. If you take a kungfu man and a judoka and have a ground fight, the judoka will win. so in one situation its the art, in another its the fighter.

so the truth is yes and no.

[Scott R. Brown]

BTW, I didn't vote because there was not a "none of the above".

[YouKnowWho]

I chose the 3rd one and still believe it too. I still have not found any new western methods that can help me to develop "head lock" and "leg twist" as effective as the old Asian method yet.

[Kellen Bassette]

I chose the last one and still believe it. Its misleading though. If you take a karateka and a kungfu man and they have a stand up fight. Yes the figher will make the difference. If you take a kungfu man and a judoka and have a ground fight, the judoka will win. so in one situation its the art, in another its the fighter.

so the truth is yes and no.

Yeah..I was thinking that too. I still say it's the fighter not the system, but the training methods matter.

I actually believed a few of those, but in my defense I was 14 years old and the internet was young...

[Jimbo]

I chose the last one and still believe it. Its misleading though. If you take a karateka and a kungfu man and they have a stand up fight. Yes the figher will make the difference. If you take a kungfu man and a judoka and have a ground fight, the judoka will win. so in one situation its the art, in another its the fighter.

so the truth is yes and no.

I agree with this.

And I also picked number 4. I'm ashamed to admit it, but when I was a kid I believed what I read in some books that made not only Taiji, but Xingyi and Bagua out to be superior to all other arts across the board. Even though I'd never met a Xingyi or Bagua person, and never liked Taiji. I used to believe many of those fantastic stories. Of course, I outgrew them after a couple years.

[Lucas]

My grand dad told me if i cant say anything nice to someone to either shut up or knock their block off.

[IronWeasel]

go poll yourself poll boy.

say, where is this poll you claim there is anyway? :p

EDIT: Your polls suck. Can you show us on the bear where the bad sensei touched you man? :p



lol.....:):)

[Syn7]

Haha, I believed lots of dumb **** when I was a kid. Fortunately I grew up. The last one is reasonable most of the time. Of course there are exceptions. While I find flower dancers laughable, they do have the foundation to get out there and test/refine. At least they should have the basic principles common and most MA's. Solid stance, mobile, flexible etc etc... I see no reason why a even a chunner can't make enough of it work if they actually train they way people actually fight. Granted, there are more efficient systems. Especially in the case of WC.

But then that begs another question. If you take a LARPer style and refine it to some reasonable effectiveness, is it still the same art you started with? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Not all styles are created equal, that's for sure. And of course there are those exceptions where the style is just ridiculous and hopeless.

[Punch.HeadButt]

And what is so wrong with yelling at inanimate objects? Come on now, we all need to vent!

This is why I post so rarely...I just lurk and scream at my computer.

[Syn7]

This is why I post so rarely...I just lurk and scream at my computer.

And this is your right....!!!

Try throwing it across the room when you read things you disagree with. It's great for your mental health. :)

[Scott R. Brown]

And this is your right....!!!

Try throwing it across the room when you read things you disagree with. It's great for your mental health. :)

Yeah, but you usually only get to do that once, then you lose all your bestest friends.....

.....and girlfriends.....

.....in the whole wide internets!:(

[YouKnowWho]

I think the word troll is an abused word. Everyone is a troll now.

Agree! When someone said, "To develop a Taiji (or WC) body", I just want to know what that person is trying to say. Since I don't believe there is a such thing as Taiji body, XingYi body, longfist body, WC body, boxing body, Judo body, the discussion just won't go anywhere.

To argue with somebody about something that you just don't agree with, it may waste your opponent's time and effort to explain it to you, it should be considered as "trolling" behavior.

A: What's Taiji body?
B: Taiji body is ...
A: I don't agree with you because ...
B: You won't agree long before you even asked that question. You are a troll by definition.

[Syn7]

I love how you see everyone as an opponent. You have teh deadliez. I can tell you radiate chi and **** electricity! We can be friends!!!

[Syn7]

Yeah, but you usually only get to do that once, then you lose all your bestest friends.....

.....and girlfriends.....

.....in the whole wide internets!:(

Virtual ***** is better than no *****, I suppose.

I built a roll cage and air shocks for my monitor!!! I won the internetz with that one. :p

[SPJ]

nice to have more than one choice.

what happens to none of the above

I would vote for none of the above.

The greatest myths for me

1. one move defeats all moves

2. one move counters all moves

3.

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my point is that there are many and many myths

in any culture

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:)

[Scott R. Brown]

nice to have more than one choice.

what happens to none of the above

I would vote for none of the above.

The greatest myths for me

1. one move defeats all moves

2. one move counters all moves

3.

---

my point is that there are many and many myths

in any culture

--

:)

Actually, the greatest myth is anyone who thinks they are better than ME!!

[Scott R. Brown]

Virtual ***** is better than no *****, I suppose.

Yeah, but "virtual pu$$y" is the same thing as "virtually no pu$$Y"!

[GoldenBrain]

Actually, the greatest myth is anyone who thinks they are better than ME!!

Allow me to introduce myself... My real name is greatest myth. :cool:

[Scott R. Brown]

Allow me to introduce myself... My real name is greatest myth. :cool:

Aren't you the one with so many belts, but none to keep his pants up, and uses suspenders or coveralls, cuz everyone knows farmers wear suspenders and coveralls?

There, myth dispelled!

See how easy it is for a real geniusist to dispel false mythallergies?

[Syn7]

Well, if you had just 5 or 10 more years of experience and started at age 3 instead of age 5, THEN you might understand a westerner who has only trained since he was 33 and read a lot of books, and whose master learned MA while in the military stationed in Guam in the 70's.

Clearly you are just gifted. Stop giving us regular folk so much hope.

[Syn7]

Aren't you the one with so many belts, but none to keep his pants up, and uses suspenders or coveralls, cuz everyone knows farmers wear suspenders and coveralls?

There, myth dispelled!

See how easy it is for a real geniusist to dispel false mythallergies?

I have "mork" suspenders. Yeah I know, dated!

[GoldenBrain]

Aren't you the one with so many belts, but none to keep his pants up, and uses suspenders or coveralls, cuz everyone knows farmers wear suspenders and coveralls?

There, myth dispelled!

See how easy it is for a real geniusist to dispel false mythallergies?

I stand in awe at your austentationistastic magnanamitude, wait let me grab my pants, now I stand in awe. :p

[YouKnowWho]

Sometime I find certain "Which of the following did you used to believe?" pulling are very interest. The person doesn't believe in himself to start with.

A weight lifting guy may pull the following questions:

- strength doesn't matter.
- big muscles make you slow and/or inflexible.

An internal guy may pull the following questions:

- strength does matter.
- sport is good.

A MMA guy may pull the following questions:

- TCMA is effective.
- My style has everything that I need in combat.

I may pull the following questions:

- If you train Taiji solo form long enough, your body will be “heavy as a mountain” or “light as a feather”.
- Internal is better than external.

[Scott R. Brown]

I have "mork" suspenders. Yeah I know, dated!

You dated mork suspenders??:eek:


I stand in awe at your austentationistastic magnanamitude, wait let me grab my pants, now I stand in awe. :p

I accept your graticisitude, with my usual elocantankerousness!

Be sure to clean all that awe off the bottom of your hippy sandals before you go back into the house!

And remember, standing in awe sets a poor example for the little ones. Teach them to walk AROUND it!;)

[Punch.HeadButt]

Try throwing it across the room when you read things you disagree with. It's great for your mental health.


Yeah, but you usually only get to do that once, then you lose all your bestest friends.....

.....and girlfriends.....

.....in the whole wide internets

Plus I'll get kicked out of the library! :eek:

[GoldenBrain]

Be sure to clean all that awe off the bottom of your hippy sandals before you go back into the house!

Hey, how did you know I'm wearing hippy sandals? Are you the one in that black helicopter that keeps circling over my house? :eek::D;)

[Scott R. Brown]

Hey, how did you know I'm wearing hippy sandals? Are you the one in that black helicopter that keeps circling over my house? :eek::D;)

I can smell a hippy 30 feet away!

They smell like Victory!!!!!

Or, am I thinking of something else!:confused:

[Vash]

I chose the 3rd one and still believe it too. I still have not found any new western methods that can help me to develop "head lock" and "leg twist" as effective as the old Asian method yet.

Would you be willing to post the exercises for these?

I'm a big fan of 'general' weight training for strength, power, hypertrophy, but skill-specific attribute development has always been over my head.

[Scott R. Brown]

Would you be willing to post the exercises for these?

I'm a big fan of 'general' weight training for strength, power, hypertrophy, but skill-specific attribute development has always been over my head.

You will love this!!;)

[YouKnowWho]

Would you be willing to post the exercises for these?

I'm a big fan of 'general' weight training for strength, power, hypertrophy, but skill-specific attribute development has always been over my head.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3987/polehang2.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img508/7338/singleheadlegtwist.jpg

I also like these 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPKwv_H1yJg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwSS8FmgJ3c

[Scott R. Brown]

I used to do "gung rotete" for a living, moving 200# barrels of horse feed all day.

[SPJ]

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3987/polehang2.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img508/7338/singleheadlegtwist.jpg

I also like these 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPKwv_H1yJg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwSS8FmgJ3c

I like the first video.

In bua gua, we also do these drills.

It is called pushing, turning or grinding mills.

Tui Mo zuan zhang.

Pushing mills turning palm.

[Frost]

i went with 1,3 and the last one, learned the hard way all three were wrong lol

[sanjuro_ronin]

Pretty much all of those i believed at one point in time.
I blame youth and the Shaw brothers !!
:D