PDA

View Full Version : Paying for YouTube



GeneChing
05-14-2013, 10:46 AM
Sesame Street and UFC. Go figure. :rolleyes:

YouTube Offers ‘Sesame Street’ and Martial Arts, for a Fee (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/10/business/media/youtubes-pay-channels-include-sesame-street-and-mixed-martial-arts.html?_r=0)
By BRIAN STELTER
Published: May 9, 2013

YouTube on Thursday detailed its plan to let producers sell paid subscriptions to their videos, creating a prominent new marketplace for programming on the Internet.

The first paid video channels appeared on the sprawling video Web site, a unit of Google, Thursday afternoon, with subscription rates ranging from 99 cents to $7.99 a month. The early participants include Sesame Workshop, the producer of “Sesame Street,” which streams full episodes of the children’s show to paying subscribers; Ultimate Fighting Championship, the mixed martial arts league, which streams classic fights to fans; and The Young Turks, a progressive talk show.

YouTube identified about 30 of these partners on Thursday and said other video makers would soon be able to set up their own paid channels. In a conference call for reporters, Malik Ducard, the director of content partnerships for YouTube, suggested that this “self-service feature” was the most important piece of the announcement.

“As we roll out wider and as we roll out self-serve, you’ll see a lot of innovation,” he said, predicting that homegrown YouTube stars with fan followings would set up paid channels.

YouTube’s subscription plans were widely reported this week, but the names of the participants were not disclosed until Thursday. The arrangement gives the creators of videos — some of whom have expressed dissatisfaction with the payments from the advertisements attached to their videos — a new way to profit from their popularity. The plan also gives YouTube a new source of revenue, although there are widespread doubts about whether people will be willing to pay for channels, since the name YouTube is almost synonymous with free streaming video on the Web.

Absent from the list of partners on Thursday were all of the biggest media companies in the United States, like the Walt Disney Company and Comcast, which owns NBCUniversal. Instead there were start-ups like the Rap Battle Network, BabyFirstTV and Cars.TV. Some of the partners have tried to gain distribution on cable and satellite television systems, but say they view YouTube as another appealing way to gain an audience.

Several companies specializing in how-to videos are among the initial partners, including iAmplify, a producer of instructional workout videos. Another area of concentration is children’s programming: in addition to Sesame Workshop, there will be paid channels from National Geographic Kids and the Jim Henson Company. Henson will stream full episodes of shows like “Fraggle Rock.” There will also be several channels devoted to movies and documentaries, though most of the film titles are obscure. Other channels will have reruns of television shows from outside the United States.

Mr. Ducard said all the paid channels would have 14-day free trials and many would offer discounted yearly rates for subscribers. Viewers will pay with Google Wallet, the same system Google’s app store uses. As the channel owners set their own prices, YouTube and the partners hope to find out quickly what price ranges are most successful.

YouTube declined to say exactly how it would split the revenue from paid subscriptions with the producers of channels. It now keeps 45 percent of the revenue from the ads it sells and gives producers the rest. Mr. Ducard said the subscriber revenue split would be “very similar to the ad-support business.”

David Jamieson
05-14-2013, 12:31 PM
If they were really smart, they would create some competition for netflix that isn't so convoluted.

Vash
05-14-2013, 06:18 PM
I kinda like it, if the implementation is good, and it stays pretty flexible.

Competition w/NetFlix would be costly, and probably a bad move. Netflix has the infrastructure, brand awareness for paid service, and no issues with copyrighted material claims. Offering something for the heavy-hitters, like Epic Meal Time (https://www.youtube.com/epicmealtime), to give as an adjunct to their free stuff.

As a trainer, I can see using it for 'bonus material' exclusive to certain audiences.

Many possibilities.

Syn7
05-14-2013, 07:53 PM
I kinda like it, if the implementation is good, and it stays pretty flexible.

Competition w/NetFlix would be costly, and probably a bad move. Netflix has the infrastructure, brand awareness for paid service, and no issues with copyrighted material claims.

Yeah, but youtube has google. And netflix isn't very big when standing next to that titan. Google has had it's issues with copyrights, but they have always come out on top, even when they lost. Paying for media is on it's way out. New model has been established and it has a nice foothold. Scary how open it is to abuse though. We live in very interesting times. We are in one of those periods that will be talked about for a long time.

GeneChing
05-15-2013, 10:28 AM
But I just recently got Hulu Plus, which has many parallel Asian titles, plus the Criterion collection, which is jam packed with a lot of great chanbara classics. I'm debating about letting go of Netflix, but it does have some new Kung Fu flicks now and again that aren't on Hulu, and they are both fairly cheap, all things considered.

As for YouTube, I'm not sure I'd want to pay for more services. I'm sure it would be cheap like Netflix and Hulu Plus streaming, but when you start getting too many of these, it adds up. They'd have to have something really enticing, not just UFC and Sesame Street.

Syn7
05-15-2013, 03:48 PM
You don't pay youtube, you pay the people you are subscribing to. YT gets a cut, I'm sure. It's like if you have a fav channel and they decide to have another channel with pay clips, you can opt in. For example, The Young Turks Network has a handful of free channels and if you want to you can pay 5 bucks a month and get a bunch of bonus material they don't release anywhere else. So it's not just UFC and Sesame street. And you can't pay for the UFC channel and get sesame street with that subscription. If you want sesame street you gotta get a completely diff subscription. And price is decided by the people who offer the subscription, not YouTube. Dunno if they have minimums or maximums. My guess would be no.