Choy Lay Fut - Lao Sing Choy?

[TopCrusader]

Any CLF people ever heard of a backfist (gwa choy) variation called the Lao Sing Choy? It was described to me as coming down vertically to strike the head or even the limb.

Thanks

[hskwarrior]

we don't call it lau sing choy....but yeah...CLF covers all angles in regards to the back fist.

[CLFNole]

If I am not mistaken, hung gar might use that terminology. Like Frank we don't use it either.

[TopCrusader]

Unfortunately I dont speak Cantonese.....any idea what Lao Sing Choy would translate as? Choy is fist but dont know about the other two.

[hskwarrior]

its also known as a vertical hammer fist

[taichi4eva]

"shooting star hammer"

[madhusudan]

Not CLF, but Sifu Jack Soderberg of Lama Pai uses that term. Check this video at around 6:19

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYC2EVRmH08

[hskwarrior]

6:19

6:19? LOL you trickster! the video is only 6 minutes long. funny funny.

[madhusudan]

My bad. That was some other Hop Gar/Lama stuff I was watching. Here is the correct vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ0jwrznuJ4

[hskwarrior]

we use what he terms as lao sing choy in our kwa sow combo

[madhusudan]

y'mean like you throw the double gwa, then launch the sow from the rear hand, while wheeling into a horse stance? Or, somethin' else entirely?

[hskwarrior]

nah, we would use the kwa choy or as you're asking a single LAO SING CHOY to attack your incoming strike followed by the sow choy to your head

[madhusudan]

Okay, yeah, that's pretty much what I thought you were talking about.

[jdhowland]

White Crane/Lama uses the term lau sing sau or lau sing kyun--meteor fists, but the described technique (downward backfist) is called deng cheui--nailing strike. Meteor hands refers to the whole range of basic long power strikes. I've never heard the term used in CLF.

[CLFNole]

We have a section in a set that does the double gwa choy in opposite directions followed by a right poon kiu left sow choy combination but we simply refer to the double hammer strikes as sheung gwa choy. Again I have never heard the terms "lau sing choy" in CLF circles.