Handstand Kick in Secret Gate Mantis

[Kymus]

Can anyone tell me about this technique?

I'm told it's called a handstand kick. You'll see it here in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbEHx4SNcGE) of Master Su Yu-Chang

When googling, the closest thing I could find was this (http://www.ehow.com/video_4961386_northern-style-kung-fu-combo.html), but that seems to be a different technique.

Is it in any way related to this technique (http://www.pachitanglang.com/workspace/images/piercekick.gif) found on Master Su's website?

[18elders]

if i remember correctly, that was like a signature move for Master Su, it was added to the form and not part of the original form.

[mooyingmantis]

if i remember correctly, that was like a signature move for Master Su, it was added to the form and not part of the original form.

That is correct!

In the 1964 video of Master Su performing in Taiwan, he has already added this technique into his performance of Lanjie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5XMIQrvinM

[Kymus]

Thank you very much for the info, guys! I was not expecting to heart that this was solely Master Su's technique.

A few questions then..

Is anyone readily familiar with this technique? Is it the same as in the e-how video I linked to and the picture from Master Su's website?

[mickey]

Greetings Kymus,

The inside crescent kick that GM Su does is not unique to him. It exists in the art of Di Gong, aka Di Tang-- China's groundfighting method. You can see it at 1:14 here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6_2KlIWX2E

The upside down side kick that you show in the photo I have not seen elsewhere. One can say it is a variation of a cartwheel kick or a variation of a dropping side kick. The real question is not so much it's origin; it is whether it is effective. It must have worked for Gm Su at some point.


mickey

[Kymus]

Very interesting, thanks for the reply, Mickey!

[MightyB]

For your information,

Watch the 2:40 mark http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZsZTLRY_4Y

[Kymus]

For your information,

Watch the 2:40 mark http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZsZTLRY_4Y

Thanks for that MightyB! I remember Tim Cartmell going over this at this Xingyi Ground Dragon seminar!

[Tainan Mantis]

Can anyone tell me about this technique?

I'm told it's called a handstand kick. You'll see it here in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbEHx4SNcGE) of Master Su Yu-Chang

It is from Liang Xuexiang's 7th Zhai Yao. Su learned it from Zhang Dekui when he was younger.

The second picture you posted of Su doing a side kick straight into the air is from Ba Bu tang Lang, I think the 4th zhai yao.

Mickey also posted a relevant vid. That from is called White Horse Descends the Mountain.
These forms were supposedly all from a place called Shui Kou. In Old Mantis it includes the form Ba Fang, which I noticed Xiao Yao has done a good job with when I was last in China.

Other forms of this style were also Taught by Gao Daosheng. This is a common kick to most of these forms.

It is the traditinal Di Gong style.