Fitness Club in the form of MA Training

[SteveLau]

Dear All,

There is a local development of fitness clubs in the form of MA training. It can be named as "Thai Boxing for Fitness", "Kick Boxing Fitness Gym", etc. Is there such development in the city or country where you reside? What is your view on it?




Regards,

KC
Hong Kong

[Dragonzbane76]

yeah there are a few in my area. I've watched a couple and came to the conclusion that it takes many of the drills (conditioning) and uses them for cardio fitness without the sparring or resistance. I've yet to see one where they spar, maybe somewhere else does but the ones in my area don't. Nothing wrong with it IMO but I don't see getting much out of it concerning applications.

[Oso]

yea, your typical tkd or 'karate' school, :p

[SevenStar]

One of the biggest schools in the state is in my city. The class is called fitness kickboxing, but they have actual fighters teaching it. I used to teach Muay Thai there. Basically, everyone has a heavy bag. They will spend two minutes doing combos that the instructor calls out, then spend 60 seconds doing a fitness movement, like squats or push ups.

The idea isn't to spar. Not everyone wants to fight. If they want to fight, they can take the mma or Thai boxing classes. 90% of people simply want to stay fit and fight training is not as boring as running on a treadmill. It's just that simple. Most of the clients I have now have no desire to ever spar, they just respect the hard training that goes into competitive fighting and they want to train the same way so that they can get in shape.

[Dragonzbane76]

90% of people simply want to stay fit and fight training is not as boring as running on a treadmill.

I think this is the best answer for the question.

[David Jamieson]

tae bo, boxercise, gsp rushfit, tony hortons kempo workout etc etc etc etc.
Yes, people like to do the martial arts workout without any of the fighting etc.
This has been a trend for a long time now.

Probably more than a thousand years.
There are people who do the warrior arts wit no intention of ever using warrior arts.

Even body building is to accumulate strength over others, but look what it's turned into. One big orange and gay pose fest.

c'est la vie. White collar boxing, wen do, women's only fitness mma, mma training without comping and so on and so forth.

People want those t-shirts, teacher has gotta eat.

[Lucas]

i saw this guy on line named jake mace and he does this. :eek:

[bawang]

wombat combat teaches cardio bjj. you grapple on the ground against an imaginary opponent.

[Sima Rong]

If you are actually punching a bag in boxing fitness training, you can still improve your skill at smashing someone in the face and using combos, but most boxing fitness training doesn't even do this I guess.

[KungFubar]

One of the biggest schools in the state is in my city. The class is called fitness kickboxing, but they have actual fighters teaching it. I used to teach Muay Thai there. Basically, everyone has a heavy bag. They will spend two minutes doing combos that the instructor calls out, then spend 60 seconds doing a fitness movement, like squats or push ups.

The idea isn't to spar. Not everyone wants to fight. If they want to fight, they can take the mma or Thai boxing classes. 90% of people simply want to stay fit and fight training is not as boring as running on a treadmill. It's just that simple. Most of the clients I have now have no desire to ever spar, they just respect the hard training that goes into competitive fighting and they want to train the same way so that they can get in shape.


if only they could harness all that energy and connect it to the power grid

[KungFubar]

One of the biggest schools in the state is in my city. The class is called fitness kickboxing, but they have actual fighters teaching it. I used to teach Muay Thai there. Basically, everyone has a heavy bag. They will spend two minutes doing combos that the instructor calls out, then spend 60 seconds doing a fitness movement, like squats or push ups.

The idea isn't to spar. Not everyone wants to fight. If they want to fight, they can take the mma or Thai boxing classes. 90% of people simply want to stay fit and fight training is not as boring as running on a treadmill. It's just that simple. Most of the clients I have now have no desire to ever spar, they just respect the hard training that goes into competitive fighting and they want to train the same way so that they can get in shape.

Nelson is my favorite MMA guy, trains hard mma but his physique does not reflect that. He says his success comes from his kung fu background (wah lum)

[KungFubar]

Even body building is to accumulate strength over others, but look what it's turned into. One big orange and gay pose fest.


Wow - do people still get away with being obnoxiously h o m o phobic where you live?

oh here comes the word and thought police again to make you think and talk like they do.

[Wolf]

In Sydney Australia there are gyms thats offer boxercise, combat fitness, etc and there are other specifc boxing, traditional and mma clubs that have classes that offer just fitness.

Very recently a UFC branded gym opened up here as well.

With increased competition from the fitness industry a lot of martial art clubs, schools etc are having to branch out in order to remain viable (and not unlike schools that teach a variety of styles as opposed to just one).

[ngokfei]

yeah its grown so fast that some MA schools have given up teaching their actual style/system to just cash in on this.

Basically it seems to all just be a rehash of Taebo/Cardio Kickboxing with the infusion of the P90X/Cross Fit.

hey its great stuff if all our into is getting in shape which is not a bad thing and alot of MA exponents out there could hurt from doing some form of it.

But its definetly not martial Arts in that they don't focus on usage or things like theory and principles.

I've seen so many of these instructors who mainly are just Personal Trainers who have learned some Cardio Kickboxing and they just popping in the DVD the day before teaching class. Anyhow they still can't throw a decent punch.

Its ingrained in the modern view of MA Gyms so some form of it will be around for ever.

[mickey]

Greetings,

Using MA for fitness has been around for too long.

In this country we sorta missed that market. People would join a MA school for the expressed purpose of getting into shape and would disappear when they got to the sparring level. The lack of sparring and health emphasis may have been what made Tai Chi so popular.

Before the Asian MA boom, boxing gyms served this purpose very well. They welcomed those who simply came to work out. It kept the food on their plates and the lights on.


mickey

[SteveLau]

Thank you all for your input. Most of your views coincide with mine on these fitness clubs. Getting healthy is not a bad thing to do. So I do not mind if these schools promote themselves as health clubs, and make it so clear to their students and the public. As for my training purpose, I would unlikely sign up to one of these clubs though.



Regards,

KC
Hong Kong

[Pierce]

I was also looking for such fitness club where I could do some MA training and also get some physical fitness.
I would like to join this fitness and MA training club.

[GeneChing]

I'm hijacking this half-decade old thread for fitness clubs.


Morning Mix
Fitness chain bans cable news networks as part of ‘healthy way of life’ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/01/09/fitness-chain-has-banned-cable-news-networks-as-part-of-healthy-way-of-life/?utm_term=.c6966700c437)
By Samantha Schmidt January 9

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With the start of the new year, scores of Americans are rushing to their local gyms, resolving to get a head start on a healthier routine.

For some, particularly amid today’s high-velocity news cycle, this daily routine may involve hitting a treadmill or elliptical machine while catching up on cable TV networks.

But one nationwide fitness chain has decided that the combination of cardio and cable news does not align with a “healthy way of life.”

Life Time Fitness, a Minnesota-based gym chain, has decided to eliminate all national cable network news stations from the TV screens at its 128 fitness centers in the U.S. and Canada. The removed channels include CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and CNBC, according to the St. Paul Pioneer Press.

The decision, which was made at the start of the new year, came after a wave of feedback from gym members over time, Life Time said in a statement on Twitter last week. It also stemmed from the chain’s “commitment to provide family oriented environments free of consistently negative or politically charged content,” the statement read.

“It is always our goal to meet the majority of members’ expressed requests and we believe this change is consistent with the desires of overall membership as well as our healthy way of life philosophy,” the statement read.

The big-screen TVs at all clubs will now air “USA, A&E, Discovery and HGTV, in addition to local stations and ESPN,” spokeswoman Natalie Bushaw told the St. Paul Pioneer Press. These TVs can be seen throughout the fitness areas, but can only be heard through headphones.

Some personal TV screens built into the clubs’ cardio machines have the ability to display cable news channels, Bushaw told the Minneapolis Star Tribune, and Life Time plans to make these available at all stations by the end of February.

“Clubs do have flexibility to air programs of interest in their club, such as local sporting events from college to pro teams,” Bushaw told the Star Tribune. Life Time clubs, which are currently located in 36 major markets in the U.S. and Canada, also have WiFi, meaning members can watch news on their own devices as they please.

Life Time, founded in 1992 by Bahram Akradi, touts a “healthy and happy life for its members,” according to its website. It aims to provide a comprehensive experience “that goes well beyond fitness to encompass the entire spectrum of daily life for individuals, couples and families of all ages.”

Numerous studies have indeed shown that consumption of emotional content of TV news can affect a person’s mental health and mood, according to Graham C.L. Davey, an emeritus professor of psychology at the University of Sussex.

“Our studies also showed that this change in mood exacerbates the viewers own personal worries — even when those worries are not directly relevant to the news stories being broadcast,” Davis said in an email to The Washington Post.

One study described in the Harvard Business Review found that people who watched just three minutes of negative news in the morning had a 27 percent greater likelihood of reporting their day as unhappy six to eight hours later, compared to a group that watched positive news focused on uplifting stories of resilience.

Several Life Time members on Twitter praised the gym chain’s decision to remove cable news networks, with some saying they already feel less stressed during their workouts.

The gym, wrote one member, “is no place for constant negativity like the news chains love to surround themselves with.”


Adaeze
@prncessweetness
Replying to @lifetimefitness
Thank you! Some of us use the gym as an escape from the news of the real world for even just an hour for our health and sanity. That's what lifetime fitness is all about right ? Thank you for looking out for everyone !


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But many others criticized the decision, characterizing it as censorship. Several Twitter users threatened to pull their Life Time memberships as a result of the decision.

“For many of us it’s the only time to watch the news!” tweeted Grant Napear, a sports radio host based in Sacramento.

Pete Hegseth, co-host of “Fox & Friends Weekend,” tweeted to Life Time asking, “why did you cave to a few snowflake whiners and turn off @FoxNews? I’m a member, and while I don’t love watching #FakeNews @CNN or Socialist @MSNBC—I’m an adult and can handle it. America is about CHOICE, not CENSORSHIP.”



6 Jan

Kyle Lacio
@KyleLacio
Replying to @UWBigAl and 2 others
They are switching to local news. They removed CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and CNBC from the televisions but USA, A&E, Discovery, HGTV, ESPN and local over-the-air stations remain.


Michael D
@MichaelD8
I know. The other night we got to see the food channel making 1000 calorie cupcakes, the drug addict Mom intervention show, and the prison show where every other word was censored while they talked about how to make shanks and assault each other. Fantastic family entertainment.

4:23 PM - Jan 6, 2018


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4 Jan

Life Time
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Our perspective on the recent tv programming change in our clubs. pic.twitter.com/r81EQFjZdE


Bryan Sieve
@BryanSieve
@lifetimefitness offensive? What a bunch of BS! Many professionals like me start out the day doing cardio/watching cable news. Don't need LTF deciding what I can/cannot watch. Never seen any complaints in 10+ years. Staying informed is actually HEALTHY! LA Fitness here I come.
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Andy
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Lifetime Fitness stopped showing cable news shows to create a more “family friendly environment”.

So now there’re showing the Law & Order SVU episode where a dude on Tinder rapes and intentionally infects women with HIV.

12:43 PM - Jan 5, 2018
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[wolfen]

I'm hijacking this half-decade old thread for fitness clubs.
Morning Mix
Fitness chain bans cable news networks as part of ‘healthy way of life’



That's quite refreshing - a step towards sanity. I hardly believe it!

There are a lot of people in the gyms locked into their smartphones. Their bodies are there, but their minds are not. How can they accomplish anything beyond the superficial?
Some of these people sit on the fitness machines texting or whatever. While they are doing that, no one else can use the machines. They are phone zombies seemingly oblivious to the non-virtual world..
I only listen to music if I'm doing dance aerobics, the rest of the time, I'm listening to my body.
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In "Angry White Pajamas" Robert Twigger describes how a high ranking Yoshinikan practitioner died in class. They put his body to the side and finished the class. That's the old school standard.


I read an analysis done in February about CNN - 92 percent of the news coverage was about DJT and almost all of it was negative. Even without the Trump factor , it's just a deluge of offensive social programming. Someone else puts something in your mind for you to think about and be distracted by. It fragments and disorients your mind. They take advantage of psychological needs of people to feel connected to a larger society.

Actually almost none of it is real news ie news that would affect your life. It's just "news stories" things you will eventually find in Wikipedia if you have the interest,
The real news, news that will affect your life, is rarely on the "news".

The "legacy media" are dinosaurs. A species soon to be extinct. The cable networks are not there because of popular demand - they are there because of monopolistic contracts in package deals. They are forced on the consumer. These cable packages are being destroyed by the new media on the internet. The vast majority of consumers have completely lost respect for the legacy media as this story shows And as BPS says in the following video, trust for the MSN is about as high as a love for roaches at the table on thanksgiving.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UisVfGdyqPE


THE "FAKE NEWS" Frankenstein TURNS on CNN