kung fu and dancing.

[doug maverick]

that moment when dancing looks just like kung fu


http://24.media.tumblr.com/0c15e67f3d09ccb1eb3f5f3a34054d43/tumblr_mr142ukTBE1qcgwn4o1_500.gif

[pazman]

Real kungfu people can proudly wear their silk pajamas, wield their Chinese opera weapons, and perform taolu, knowing full well they don't practice something as silly and lowly as dance!

[Pete]

looks more like wushu than kung fu ;)

[GeneChing]

Read Which Wu are You? by me and Gigi (July/August 2013 (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=1096))

[MightyB]

guys who can dance get laid, a lot.

[David Jamieson]

My training partner loves dancing. he does ballroom and all the rest with his wife regularly. It has improved a lot of his movement and why shouldn't it? It has rhythm, timing, stepping, grace...all the same prerequisites for any display of body awareness.

[mickey]

Greetings,

Boy how we forget. I commented on the abilities of the Nicolas Brothers years ago. They had a foundation that was great for kung fu training:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JaRtOABNos


mickey

[David Jamieson]

Greetings,

Boy how we forget. I commented on the abilities of the Nicolas Brothers years ago. They had a foundation that was great for kung fu training:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JaRtOABNos


mickey

Do you honestly think we retain your comments from years ago? :p
Man, some days I gotta catch up to what I said yesterday!

[mickey]

YOU MUST RETAIN MY COMMENTS!! YOU MUST RETAIN MY COMMENTS!!!




mickey

[MightyB]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9u5c4MfSN1ruuu4oo1_500.gif

[MightyB]

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7111474688/hA3A9595C/

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

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mickey

People still seem to remember things I said from back in the KFO days.....

[xinyidizi]

Looks like this:

http://v.ku6.com/show/17wcMoQwlrNWiZQUCBy29w...html

And in order to be a fighter first you need to be a good dancer. :D

[PalmStriker]

:) Bruce Lee took Wing Chun and mixed it with the Cha Cha to come up with Jun fanJKD. My own Kungfu contains no dance moves or dressing like women.

[MightyB]

Log into facebook to watch this awesome MA-like dance (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=567242039983795&set=vb.130730836968253&type=2&theater).

[wenshu]

http://imageshack.us/a/img138/5226/taxi19325firstresize.gif

[Syn7]

Log into facebook to watch this awesome MA-like dance (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=567242039983795&set=vb.130730836968253&type=2&theater).

Fine line between a funkstylist and a mime sometimes, but I would put that one solidly in the latter bracket.

[GeneChing]

...and by that I mean he won a Cha Cha dance competition, not that I was stuttering.

We also remember where some martial artists have gone to die...I mean dance! Gone to dance! (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55016). :o

[GeneChing]

Maybe because it's Friday? :)

Breakdance Gone Crazy!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oRysW2mm4A)

[Lucas]

that was pretty bad ass

[YouKnowWho]

It's not a good idea to associate Kung Fu with dancing. When non-TCMA guys try to put down TCMA, it makes no sense for our TCMA lovers to put down TCMA ourselves.

[bawang]

It's not a good idea to associate Kung Fu with dancing. It makes no sense for our TCMA lovers to put down TCMA ourselves.

the word for "form" in Chinese is dance.

[YouKnowWho]

the word for "form" in Chinese is dance.


It's not! Form is for teaching and learning only. It's not for training.

You don't practice tantui 20 times a day. You break it into combo drills. For example, The Tantui form #1 can be broken into 2 combo drills:

- jab, hook, back fist.
- groin kick, parry, face punch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0CrToy_O2Y

You can also train it as a 5 moves combo drills as groin kick, parry, jab, hook, back fist.

Now you have changed Tantui #1

from:

Jab, cross, back fist, groin kick, parry, face punch (this is for "teaching and learning"),

into:

Groin kick, parry, jab, hook, back fist (this is for your personal "training").

[bawang]

It's not! Form is for teaching and learning only. It's not for training.

You don't practice tantui 20 times a day. You break it into combo drills. For example, The Tantui form #1 can be broken into 2 combo drills:

- jab, hook, back fist.
- groin kick, parry, face punch.

You can also train it as a 5 moves combo drills as groin kick, parry, jab, hook, back fist.

Now you have changed Tantui #1 from:

Jab, cross, back fist, groin kick, parry, face punch (this is for "teaching and learning"),

into

Groin kick, parry, jab, hook, back fist (this is for your personal "training").

the official term for form in the Chinese military is "wu wu", war dance.

"all forms of song and dance as entertainment are to be banned, except fist poem and forms. award with silver those who create roads of dance from drills, and create songs about battle tactics."-general qijiguang


"my joys are simple. farming by summer, making up forms at winter. if im not an immortal, who is immortal?" - chen wangting

[Kellen Bassette]

the official term for form in the Chinese military is "wu wu", war dance.

"all forms of song and dance as entertainment are to be banned, except fist poem and forms. award with silver those who create roads of dance from drills, and create songs about battle tactics."-general qijiguang


"my joys are simple. farming by summer, making up forms at winter. if im not an immortal, who is immortal?" - chen wangting


Can you share the years of those quotes with tightey whitey?

[Syn7]

Maybe because it's Friday? :)

Breakdance Gone Crazy!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oRysW2mm4A)

The crew is Morning Owl. They won BOTY Korea in 2012 and placed 3rd(I think) in the worlds. If you like that stuff, you should check out the winning battle where the Vagabonds took it. But ultimately it comes down to what appeals to you. Whether you want to see solid fundamentals, new ideas, high flyers, a healthy mix, it really depends on what you like. It's like saying "which song is better" when they are both really good for different reasons. Then it just comes down to personal appeal. For me, I liked Morning Owls clean uprock and solid fundamentals a lot more than I liked the party tricks. They didn't really bring anything new to the table, but they do what they do really well. They took almost every round in the whole battle.


It's not a good idea to associate Kung Fu with dancing.


While many of the skills are transferable and doing one can help the other, they have completely different intents, and that matters. You can approach isolated elements in a similar manner, but overall they have two completely different objectives and that will always play into methodology. You can apply this to any physical activity, really, but some activities have much more in common with MA's. Like tumbling, for example. Or like how football players can have a good base for MMA.

[Kellen Bassette]

While many of the skills are transferable and doing one can help the other, they have completely different intents, and that matters. You can approach isolated elements in a similar manner, but overall they have two completely different objectives and that will always play into methodology. You can apply this to any physical activity, really, but some activities have much more in common with MA's. Like tumbling, for example. Or like how football players can have a good base for MMA.

This is right on, and that's why it's so important to train martial arts with a combat mindset, otherwise it's just calisthenics. I actually think the contemporary wushu players and MA tricksters train better than the average hobby martial artists, at least they are clear on their objective and can tailor their methods accordingly.

[bawang]

Can you share the years of those quotes with tightey whitey?

1600s and 1700s

This is right on, and that's why it's so important to train martial arts with a combat mindset, otherwise it's just calisthenics.

forms ARE calisthetics.


I actually think the contemporary wushu players and MA tricksters train better than the average hobby martial artists, at least they are clear on their objective and can tailor their methods accordingly.
its the masculinity, aggression, and spirit of brutality in the traditional dance that makes it different from modern wushu dance.

[Kellen Bassette]

forms ARE calisthetics. the difference between traditional performance and modern wushu performance is masculinity and aggression.

Yeah, that's kind of why I was emphasizing a "combat mindset." If beautiful routines are the desired result (cont. wushu) then it's not necessary, but at least wushu players have a clear goal, most martial artists do not.

[bawang]

Yeah, that's kind of why I was emphasizing a "combat mindset." If beautiful routines are the desired result (cont. wushu) then it's not necessary, but at least wushu players have a clear goal, most martial artists do not.

traditional forms are "beautiful" in their brutality, not acrobatic flair.

examples of how traditional forms are to be performed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9GoOwng8FKU&t=126

northern kung fu is commonly cold subtle aggression

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZCEFzLsqYw

southern often hot obvious aggression

[Lucas]

I think it's important to simulate the same ferocity and cold heart in training that you will need when you are fighting. its also important to build your heart when sparring by not being a poos.

you should always go to the attack against one. against multples, stand your ground against two, be allowed to move your foot (pivot) against three and retreat maneuver against four. this should be done from time to time with the intent to develop your 'balls' lol.

[bawang]

I think it's important to simulate the same ferocity and cold heart in training that you will need when you are fighting. its also important to build your heart when sparring by not being a poos.

you should always go to the attack against one. against multples, stand your ground against two, be allowed to move your foot (pivot) against three and retreat maneuver against four. this should be done from time to time with the intent to develop your 'balls' lol.

wombat combat test for warrior qi. you walk up to tightey whitey, look him in the eye, and tell him to bend over. if he do without hesitation, you have the tiger subdue dragon slaying spirit fetus.

[Lucas]

wombat combat test for warrior qi. you walk up to tightey whitey, look him in the eye, and tell him to bend over. if he do without hesitation, you have the tiger subdue dragon slaying spirit fetus.

i bow to ur wisdom

[Kellen Bassette]

i bow to ur wisdom

Is that bowing or bending?

After this test, true warrior must prove his courage by playing ancient game called "spoons."

[Lucas]

in wombat combat we only bow from the neck.

[bawang]

in wombat combat we only bow from the neck.

in wombat combat we do not bow. we growl.

if we see chocolate brother we will activate friendship knuckle touch for chocolate alliance

[Lucas]

i try not to share the secrets

[Drake]

You can't mimic the ferocity of combat in a form. Only when hurt, battered, and knowing that you must tear the life out of your enemy or else he will kill you, will you actually understand. Otherwise, you just are just playing a game, mocking something serious and sacred. You will never understand as long as you have that bell/whistle or that ref in the background, and you know that will save you.

Pretend to be a tiger. Yeah, have fun with that.

[Lucas]

Oh please :rolleyes: did you kill your sense of humor just to watch it die, or were you just born with a douche bag for a face?

[rett]

Alternatively you can stomp a bagpipe to death and snap the drones like so many dried twigs. Then you know.

[Drake]

oh please :rolleyes: Did you kill your sense of humor just to watch it die, or were you just born with a douche bag for a face?

who are you?

[Lucas]

who are you?

[bawang]

who are you?

my name steve. steve Johnson.

[pazman]

who are you?

This thread is now interrupted by rocknroll. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdLIerfXuZ4)

[Drake]

who are you?

who are you?