Morning exercise, how long, what to train

[Hanak]

If I follow the chinese way of thinking, they say there are 100 day's needed to train the body and to see some difference.

If you google a little, you find that the best way to train is in the morning, for example best way and best bennefit is to stretch in the morning, because muscle and tendons are still soft.

But now my question is,

1: do you train in the morning, yes? How many times a week?
2: if you train, is there a schedule, like monday qi qong, teusday basics kung fu ect

Thanks in advance.

[rett]

I do morning training almost every day. Maybe 6.5 times/week on average. Early morning training for me is standing meditation and light qigong culminating in stretching and stance training. 30-45 minutes usually. However sometimes (as on weekends) it transitions into form training and goes on for longer.

There is a lot of variation in how I do it but I don't have a defined weekly schedule. Some days are so easy as to be almost like resting. Just standing meditation. Some days I do staff at the end which is almost like running intervals (but not quite).

It depends on how I feel that day and how much time I have. I believe it's best to follow natural rhythms like that. However if you feel tired it's important to know if you really need a light day or if it's just mental resistance.

I should add that other parts of the kungfu and taiji I do are other times during the week. (fore-noon training, with exertion, evening training with crunches, pushups and stuff, or a brisk 5-6 km walk, partner exercises and applications if I have a partner at the time)

[Throwaway Child]

I think life should be only about training
please take me to the temple now -
these people are not monks & I don't like them
7 days a week
if I have more Qigong than I can do In one day - I just do different qigong on different days -
Does your master have a training schedule ?

[bawang]

I think life should be only about training
please take me to the temple now -
these people are not monks & I don't like them
7 days a week
if I have more Qigong than I can do In one day - I just do different qigong on different days -
Does your master have a training schedule ?

go on welfare and train all day

[Throwaway Child]

:d:d:d:d:d
go on welfare and train all day

If there is a God - that is what I will do - be at peace all day - I think Gongfu means work - but they told me to learn taichi not kungfu - I was a super good worker & I got the work done - but I am permanently crippled now - so much for being a good worker for the landlord

[Throwaway Child]

someone told me that Taoist divide their day into 12 - two hour periods

each of those 2 hour periods are further divided into six - 20 minute periods

5-7 am the hours of the rabbit - the electrical time of the day & the spring time of the day -

I am supposed to do meditation at this time - for 2 HO ( 2 - 20min periods )

I am supposed to do qigong & other stuff after this -

but personally - I have not adapted to this routine yet - I do something a little different that works better for me

but I have always been wrong about everything all of my life. I have made a lot of wrong decisions

I will continue to try to do what is right though - my days of questioning the teacher are over - but I don't listen to just any teacher - some of them don't know me very well

I can agree to disagree later if it continues to be an unsuccessful rhythm for me.

they have added stretching & cardio into the food guide pyramid - 20-30 min of each
Bruce said something about stretching 15 min or so b4 martial arts practice - but I do not call it Martial arts - i was training too much - too harsh 4 me - remember - I am 160 years old NOW - my joints are pretty beat up from vegetarianism - so I don't know what kind of cardio I would do unless it is swimming

how about 6-7 ----------- Chi Kung & Tai Chi -

as if that's enough time - but it's a start

meditation is my weakest point - so I guess I should put more effort into working on that little tiny bit of self discipline first

[Neeros]

Morning schedule atm is:

Iron wire or marrow cleansing
Art of 100 kicks
Footwork
Sets/combat sequences
One 18 lohan hand and zi fa gong to finish

[bawang]

:d:d:d:d:d

If there is a God - that is what I will do - be at peace all day - I think Gongfu means work - but they told me to learn taichi not kungfu - I was a super good worker & I got the work done - but I am permanently crippled now - so much for being a good worker for the landlord

what kind of disability you have?

[GeneChing]

the traditional daily training schedule of Shaolin monks has been recorded in page 676 of vol.4 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/124340422) and in some more training details in pages 569-70 of vol.1 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/124309390) of the Encyclopedia of Shaolin Wushu (http://www.scribd.com/collections/4133108). It might be written so in there, but no where is it written in stone that the regimen is always so. That being said, it's not too much different nowadays.

Actually this is pretty old news. It was fashionable to publish Shaolin training schedules some time ago, but now it's been done so many times that no one really cares so much about this. We published two such schedules in our first Shaolin Special in 1999 (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=89). The first article was Growing Up at Shaolin Temple: Shi Yan Ming Remembers Childhood at Shaolin by Shi Yan Ming. He describes his daily regimen on page 35. The second article is by me, Grasshopper Was Make Believe: My Experience of the Original Shaolin Temple. I discuss the Shaolin training schedule on page 45, both my personal schedule (although I'm no monk) and some from my master Shi Decheng (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=500).

[Throwaway Child]

what kind of disability you have?

I HOPE I AM NOT SPAMMING UP THE WRONG THREAD -BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION -


the most serious is my knees - from working -
it's from twisting - with heavy weights - approximately 777 billion times - for 12 hours at a time

also bilateral carpal tunnel -

serious anger & frustration & ptsd
@ this point - I cannot drive a vehicle or anything anymore without being a danger to myself or others -

inability to function in society

unemployable = Highly allergic to B.S.

was discharged from the military for - antisocial personality disorder - obsessive compulsive disorder - & paranoid personality disorder -

that's why I don't like to go around people like that - they call me crazy


serious frustration with my inability to accomplish simple tasks in society - not that I don't have a brain - but, I usually have someone in my face telling me that I don't have a brain

I don't really like to go outside of the house anymore

I never liked to admit I have problems - but in reality = especially the one about driving a vehicle - it's a serious & potentially fatal situation

unable to stop worrying about an unstable future

I am only at peace when I am working my program - so I'll log off now & go do that - I don't want to get kicked off the forum 4 spamming

[bawang]

i think you should pursue what makes you happy, you should apply for welfare this very week and train kung fu, heal physically mentally spiritually.

[Brule]

I HOPE I AM NOT SPAMMING UP THE WRONG THREAD -BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION -


the most serious is my knees - from working the main case sealer -
it's from twisting - with heavy weights - approximately 777 billion times - for 12 hours at a time

also bilateral carpal tunnel -

serious anger & frustration & ptsd
@ this point - I cannot drive a vehicle or anything anymore without being a danger to myself or others -

inability to function in society

unemployable = Highly allergic to B.S.

was discharged from the military for - antisocial personality disorder - obsessive compulsive disorder - & paranoid personality disorder -

that's why I don't like to go around people like that - they call me crazy

serious frustration with my inability to accomplish simple tasks in society

I don't really like to go outside of the house anymore

I never liked to admit I have problems - but in reality = especially the one about driving a vehicle - it's a serious & potentially fatal situation

unable to stop worrying about an unstable future

I am only at peace when I am working my program - so I'll log off now & go do that - I don't want to get kicked off the forum 4 spamming

Welcome to the forum, you truly belong here.

[Kellen Bassette]

inability to function in society

unemployable = Highly allergic to B.S.


So in a nutshell, you think work sucks and it makes you unhappy.

Sure I'd be more than happy to support you doing Qi Gong all day, just so long as you don't have to do anything you don't like. I'll just work some extra shifts.....

[RickMatz]

I wake a little earlier than I need to get ready and so practice for an hour to an hour and 15 minutes every morning before I go to work. I rotate through different sets of exercises.

[Kellen Bassette]

for such modern timers basic exercises, like warming up and stretching, and forms are almost everything, or at least the majority! this is not the traditional way, anyway.

Hey, we agree!

[sanjuro_ronin]

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[sanjuro_ronin]

http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/5/7/571a7-Male_diurnal_test_rhythm.gif

[sanjuro_ronin]

There is also a good chart that shows your strength levels during the day, I can't find that one..

But if I recall correctly, they are highest at around 9 in the morning and then again 6 in the afternoon.

[yeshe]

How about this,maybe some of the instructors and long time practitioners tell us what they do for a morning routine,what has worked for them and maybe give some recommendations.

[YouKnowWho]

I like to drill this combo 60 times in the morning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1j4j5Nu3Gk&feature=youtu.be

The

- 1st move force me to drop into low stance for stretching.
- 2nd move force me to stand on single leg for balance.

Since this combo doesn't require much strength to do. It's excellent for morning mild exercise.

[Throwaway Child]

I like to drill this combo 60 times in the morning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1j4j5Nu3Gk&feature=youtu.be

The

- 1st move force me to drop into low stance for stretching.
- 2nd move force me to stand on single leg for balance.

Since this combo doesn't require much strength to do. It's excellent for morning mild exercise.

I couldn't do anything 60 times without seriously hurting my knees

[YouKnowWho]

In that "Tai Ji Quan Eight Basic Stances Positions",

http://www.phoenixdragonkungfu.com/tai-chi-eight-basic-stances.aspx

the

- L or Half Horse, I call it 4-6 stance.
- Tai Chi Stance, I call it 7 star stance.

The 10th posture of this chart,

http://media0.wgz.ro/images/media0:4a2e716cc15f5.jpg/wushu%20tai%20chi%20stance.jpg

I do something like this:

http://imageshack.us/a/img718/3319/chang13tb.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQo97EqNwYw

[Throwaway Child]

Dr. Yang calls them a lot of different names
everyone does :)
if you right click on those photos & view image they get bigger & you can print them

I do yoga

[YouKnowWho]

Did your Shao Lin Lineage come from GM Han Ching-Tan?

http://www.phoenixdragonkungfu.com/lineage.aspx

http://www.adamhsu.com/articles/taiwanblog_HanChingTan.html

[Throwaway Child]

Did your Shao Lin Lineage come from GM Han Ching-Tan?



http://www.adamhsu.com/articles/taiwanblog_HanChingTan.html

there are no Martial arts where I live - there are not even any Asian people here -

I do not have any lineage at all - i read books to learn

[pokomkno3]

go on welfare and train all day
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that would be ideal ~ in a perfect world


i think you should pursue what makes you happy, you should apply for welfare this very week and train kung fu, heal physically mentally spiritually.
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would have to drop out of society to heal

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJPEbKQEnORNJMWEN2EscXe80kra2OZW9

actually I did move to Oregon to get away from all the trouble makers and I got better ~ but the I moved back to Phoenix Az to get warm ~ and they started back up with the psychic attack and damaged my psyche some more ~ I'll have to go back to Oregon to heal properly ~ but I have a medical condition that makes me cold all of the time ~ so living in Oregon will be spending the rest of my life suffering ~ everywhere I go I always come back to Phoenix because I am cold and I'm trying to get warm ~ I wish there was a better neighborhood with less trouble makers somewhere here in the valley of the sun ~ In Oregon suffering comes from the cold ~ in Phoenix the suffering comes from being around evil people


Did your Shao Lin Lineage come from GM Han Ching-Tan?



I wish I had a Shaolin lineage

[pokomkno3]

what kind of disability you have?

schizophrenia ~ 100% disabled ~ service connected VA disability

they call me schizophrenic because I don't like evil and I have psychic abilities

Now I can afford deodorant ~ toilet paper ~ underwear ~ food ~ and rent

[YinOrYan]

schizophrenia ~ 100% disabled ~ service connected VA disability

they call me schizophrenic because I don't like evil and I have psychic abilities



I know people that take meds for schizophrenia and they greatly reduce the tendency to tune into the "evil" that's around you (what some people call paranoia). The only side-effect is that one gains more weight, but that's a much easier problem to deal with. You should be eligible for the meds through the VA if you were given any of the diagnostic codes for schizophrenia.

In regards to the temperture thing, there's all kinds of chi kung routines for changing that, even some where you can make each half of your body the opposite temperture. Its a great party-trick (and/or healing practice) to touch someone with both a hot hand and a cold hand at the same time...

[pokomkno3]

I know people that take meds for schizophrenia and they greatly reduce the tendency to tune into the "evil" that's around you (what some people call paranoia). The only side-effect is that one gains more weight, but that's a much easier problem to deal with. You should be eligible for the meds through the VA if you were given any of the diagnostic codes for schizophrenia.

In regards to the temperture thing, there's all kinds of chi kung routines for changing that, even some where you can make each half of your body the opposite temperture. Its a great party-trick (and/or healing practice) to touch someone with both a hot hand and a cold hand at the same time...

I take medication at night because it makes me sleep and I'm the worlds worst insomniac ~ but the medication also causes heart problems and it's destroying my eyesight ~ no amount of medication that I take will make evil people stop being evil ~ I am perfectly normal ~ I just can't sleep and I'm cold ~ I avoid evil by staying inside my apartment at all times ~ I only go out for groceries and I don't like to do that ~ I can't tune out people I come into contact with and I can't tune out apartment management ~ unfortunately I have to deal with them

I doubt there is any chi kung that could fix my thermostat ~ I' am hypothermic when other people are sitting around in their underwear with no shirt on ~ and I am bundled up in several layers and have blankets wrapped around me ~ I am very unnaturally cold all of the time ~ there is something physically ~ medically wrong with me ~ if I'm stretched out in a yin yoga stretch and holding it for 5 minutes or more ~ my body generates some warmth ~ but it disappears the second that I stop stretching

[YinOrYan]

I take medication at night because it makes me sleep and I'm the worlds worst insomniac ~ but the medication also causes heart problems and it's destroying my eyesight ~ no amount of medication that I take will make evil people stop being evil ~ I am perfectly normal ~ I just can't sleep and I'm cold ~ I avoid evil by staying inside my apartment at all times ~ I only go out for groceries and I don't like to do that ~ I can't tune out people I come into contact with and I can't tune out apartment management ~ unfortunately I have to deal with them

I doubt there is any chi kung that could fix my thermostat ~ I' am hypothermic when other people are sitting around in their underwear with no shirt on ~ and I am bundled up in several layers and have blankets wrapped around me ~ I am very unnaturally cold all of the time ~ there is something physically ~ medically wrong with me ~ if I'm stretched out in a yin yoga stretch and holding it for 5 minutes or more ~ my body generates some warmth ~ but it disappears the second that I stop stretching

It sure sounds like something with your diet has to be adjusted. The nerves need a certain amount of fat to be insulated, and maybe you need a larger percentage of protein in your diet. Avacados, nuts, and soy products may be a good source for all that...

[pokomkno3]

It sure sounds like something with your diet has to be adjusted. The nerves need a certain amount of fat to be insulated, and maybe you need a larger percentage of protein in your diet. Avacados, nuts, and soy products may be a good source for all that...

I've been cold all of my life ~

it's not my diet it's me

[YinOrYan]

I've been cold all of my life ~

it's not my diet it's me

That's probably a sign that dragon or snake kung fu would be good for you. They do both have forms that are very circular...

[pokomkno3]

That's probably a sign that dragon or snake kung fu would be good for you. They do both have forms that are very circular...

three of the bagua systems I train in are dragon systems

I wish I could be good at kung fu but my knees have arthritis in them and hurt pretty bad ~ hoping to get better at my tai chi forms ~ need to do more yoga for that ~ I'm not flexible and my hips aren't open ~ would like to be able to do tai chi forms like wushu competition professionals

all my training has to be non destructive qigong working around injuries ~

where can I learn more about the dragon and snake kung fu ? ~ I think snake stuff has something to do with continuous movement and not being still ~ my dragon system bagua teacher also teaches snake boxing ~ but I have never checked it out ~ I do another dragon system and that teacher also teaches a snake system of bagua but I don't have that one ~ I have four of his systems but not snake ~ the main system that I use is a dragon system but the 8 palms are heaven ~ earth ~ fire ~ water ~ wind ~ thunder ~ lake and mountain to go along with the I ching ~ I use those 8 palms for ding shi ~ but I also use dragon posture because it is used in my forms and the dragon system from my other teacher ~ those 8 palms are actually 16 because of twin yin and twin yang ~ but then they go into 64 with the i ching hexagrams ~ the teacher said that there are over 64 thousand variations of those 8 palms ~ I use them because there is no form to learn or forget ~ I became homeless for a few years and I forgot 12 big long forms ~ I could have gone to the park everyday and done my forms ~ but I don't do anything in public ~ so I forgot them all ~ I went back and relearned my tai chi forms ~ but I learned new and different bagua forms ~ I like doing forms and weapons forms ~ I need to take time off of ding shi and learn some new forms ~ I just hate the fact that there is a possibility that I could forget them again ~ I will always have the 8 palms ~ I will never forget them

something has also changed with my training ~ I'm not as motivated or productive as I used to be ~ it's all I can do just to do my forms on top of ding shi ~ I used to do a lot more forms + bodybuilding + yoga ~ and nonstop learning of new forms and lots of qigong ~ I'm not so productive or motivated now ~ also somewhat distracted and undisciplined

as far as the cold goes ~ I think I am cursed ~ and just unlucky in this life with this particular situation ~ warmer weather definitely helps ~ right now I have the heat on ~ I usually don't ~ I haven't had heat all of my life and I've lived in some pretty cold places ~ it's really nice to have the heat on for once

I can warm up a little while I'm working ~ the walking helps ~ But I'm always uncomfortable when I'm not working ~ even if it's hot and I'm sweating I am still cold ~ I find the cold to be a training obstacle
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I've always wondered if there was some herbal medicine that could warm the body ~ something that I could grow in a garden
I drink warm water and hot tea ~ but it just makes me cold to drink anything ~it doesn't warm me up at all ~ my instant coffee warms me up temporarily ~ if it's not at least 110° ~ then I am cold ~ even then I am still cold a lot of the time
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I was noticing in Oregon that I got warm for a little bit around like 6:18 or 6:30 in the evening almost every night ~ not sure what thats all about ~ 6:45 somewhere in that area
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[YinOrYan]

where can I learn more about the dragon and snake kung fu ?

I don't know of any good ones that would be easy to learn from a video. I found one of Ark Y Wong's longer snake forms that I had forgot and then relearned it, but it is extremely complex and strenuous and its unlikely anybody else could have reconstructed it off of video from just one angle. Anyway, its been taken down since then. I have never seen my favorite taoist dragon form on YouTube, and I've been looking since YouTube started, so I'm lucky I kept it alive, largely because it can done in a cramped-space, like a chi kung form. You should search around for videos of forms that you once knew, and if you are no longer in shape to do them, you can always do them slow like tai chi...

[pokomkno3]

I always did them slow like tai chi ~ my knees hurt really bad ~ I do all forms as a chi kung exercise

I also like the forms that you can do in a small cramped space ~ there is never any room

I do a couple of taoist dragon forms ~ they are the only bagua forms that I'm doing now ~ I like them because they are a balanced system and do every move to the left and the right ~ and can also be done in a small cramped space

heres one for cramped space ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skHdRWJ_Zuk

[YinOrYan]

I do a couple of taoist dragon forms ~ they are the only bagua forms that I'm doing now ~ I like them because they are a balanced system and do every move to the left and the right ~ and can also be done in a small cramped space

heres one for cramped space ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skHdRWJ_Zuk

Oh, that's a very fine one! Its got everything packed in there, a lot like my favorite that supposedly goes back to a Taoist Immortal. Speaking of dragons, one showed up last night under an arch in my Japanese tiger master painting. Normally its just foxes and/or faces depending on the lighting, but have never seen a dragon in there before...

[pokomkno3]

Oh, that's a very fine one! Its got everything packed in there, a lot like my favorite that supposedly goes back to a Taoist Immortal. Speaking of dragons, one showed up last night under an arch in my Japanese tiger master painting. Normally its just foxes and/or faces depending on the lighting, but have never seen a dragon in there before...

I wonder if you would see anything if you did psychometry on the painting

[YinOrYan]

I wonder if you would see anything if you did psychometry on the painting

Haha, I know I'm not seeing things! Those faces were the special-effects that masters put in their paintings a few hundred years ago by grinding metals into the the paint and other techniques. Now they can be seen by all sorts of scanning and image processing, like they do nearby at the Getty. I've seen all kinds of examples with an art history prof that whose specialty was Leonardo. The Mona Lisa that's in France is one that Leonardo kept his whole life and kept putting stuff into, like making her eyes follow one around. His first draft, that's somewhere in Australia now, doesn't have any of that stuff in it. The one he did for her husband for the commission had a deadline, so it wasn't as good neither.

Since this a kung fu forum, I should mention that some of the good traditional forms are like that too and have lots of awesome stuff the monks hid in them over centuries...

[pokomkno3]

Haha, I know I'm not seeing things!

you really can see things if you do psychometry ~ I have a Phoenix Dragon Tai Chi Bagua pendant that my Bagua teacher recommended ~ the stone has all sorts of positive energies and is supposed to ward off demons ~ If you do psychometry on it ~ it will tell the future and has a positive energy

maybe the painting has an energy of it's own ~ everything does @ 14:55 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrlMBwyFz4U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2UbM6jogGc
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Since this a kung fu forum, I should mention that some of the good traditional forms are like that too and have lots of awesome stuff the monks hid in them over centuries...

My forms are weird ~ they seem to be invisible ~ if you watch the teacher do them it's invisible ~ who knows what they look like ~ it's how they feel ~ you can feel them but can't necessarily see them ~ it's strange and hard to explain ~

at this point in my life I just want to drop out and go live at a temple and practice martial arts and be a monk ~ the shaolin schools look to be to harsh ~ I have arthritis in my knees and I'm not interested in combat sparring in sanda or anything like that ~ I just want to study Bagua and maybe Tai Chi ~ I have found a certain wudang school that I would like to study at but I just want to do bagua ~ I don't want to get caught up in the religious ceremonies or anything like that ~ I'm not interested in learning to play music ~ I'm only interested in Chinese medicine and martial arts that aren't destructive to my body

looks like I will just have to be a monk on my own ~ a monk without a temple ~ if I won the lottery I would build one

[YinOrYan]

you really can see things if you do psychometry
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looks like I will just have to be a monk on my own ~ a monk without a temple ~ if I won the lottery I would build one

I know what you mean. I can sense fields in swords and other Native American power objects that are very charged, and to some extent everyday things, but I try not to waste energy tuning-into all that.

You don't have to be rich to create your own temple. I have a place on Turtle mountain where I keep my metal tai chi weapons, mostly new ones with no karmic-loading. (Hey Gene, now there's a marketing bullet-point). The mountain-men are not going to shoot me while doing weapon forms because they need someone good at ping pong to play with. Here's one of my sword grips attached to a table-tennis paddle (and another potential product-line).

[pokomkno3]

You don't have to be rich to create your own temple

it's against my religion to make noise ~ but sometimes I want to play with a wooden dummy and train Iron palms

it would be nice to have a lot of room for spears and staffs ~ I don't want to go to the park or any place public

I always wanted to have my own place like shi de jian does

would be nice to have a garden



mostly new ones with no karmic-loading

yes ~ I have been binge watching episodes of paranormal survivor on youtube ~ apparently evil spirits can be attached to objects and you can bring them home with you

I guess good energy probably also could ~ not really sure ~

I picked up an evil spirit somewhere ~ it's been haunting me for years ~ there was one in my room when I was a little kid ~ but after Iraq it got really bad

my bagua pendant definitely has a good energy to it

I have some Buddhist stuff and christian stuff as well ~ they all read different

the bagua has the most to say at this point ~ I haven't read any of them in a while but I wear them all at all times ~ the tassel just came untied on my 108 buddhist beads today ~ I took it off and threw it away instead of fixing it ~ now my beads are maintenance free and less complicated ~ I like to keep things simple

[rett2]

I picked up an evil spirit somewhere ~ it's been haunting me for years ~ there was one in my room when I was a little kid ~ but after Iraq it got really bad

The advice I've heard, and that I believe is true, is to cultivate loving kindness (maitrî) and invite the spirit to nourish itself from your loving kindness. No matter how much it drinks your loving kindness you won't be depleted. It's a deep well that goes beyond you in particular. And the spirit will become friendly towards you, and maybe go somewhere else. This is what I believe anyway. I wish you the best.

[pokomkno3]

The advice I've heard, and that I believe is true, is to cultivate loving kindness (maitrî) and invite the spirit to nourish itself from your loving kindness. No matter how much it drinks your loving kindness you won't be depleted. It's a deep well that goes beyond you in particular. And the spirit will become friendly towards you, and maybe go somewhere else. This is what I believe anyway. I wish you the best.

it's evil ~ it doesn't have any respect for loving kindness ~I was not eating meat or killing spiders or mosquitos ~ I was practicing non harming and cultivating loving kindness ~ it attacked me every night for years ~ finally one night I got the bright idea to rebuke it in the name of jesus christ and all of the sudden it got off of me ~ when it attacks me it paralyzes me and I can't breathe or make a sound ~ so I just thought the statement instead of saying it out loud and it still worked

the spirit came back and tried to attack me several more times and I rebuked it ~ finally the attacks stopped ~ but there is still a haunting ~ I just changed apartments ~ so I'm not sure if it's the same spirit or if that one has moved on ~ it followed me across the country several times ~ but it seems to be losing it's power since I started rebuking it ~ now the only thing physical are some scratches but they are not bad and do not break the skin or anything ~ they just leave red marks

other than that there are noises and foot steps ~ lots of loud crashing noises

when I was a little kid the demon would stand at the end of my bed and shake my bed all night long every night for years ~ and for some reason I never told anyone about it ~
It would also hide things ~ steal things and move things around ~ I had some fish but they always died ~ bonsai trees always died

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLejGZyKFltdbTSoCEesuj09sAyl0OPh-e
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[YinOrYan]

it's evil ~ it doesn't have any respect for loving kindness ~I was not eating meat or killing spiders or mosquitos ~ I was practicing non harming and cultivating loving kindness ~ it attacked me every night for years ~ finally one night I got the bright idea to rebuke it


If the "rebuke" method works for you than you should try some mantras or prayers, like is done with rosaries or Buddha-beads. They are even good for more mundane things like blotting out a song that may get stuck in your head...

[rett2]

it's evil ~ it doesn't have any respect for loving kindness ~I was not eating meat or killing spiders or mosquitos ~ I was practicing non harming and cultivating loving kindness ~ it attacked me every night for years ~ finally one night I got the bright idea to rebuke it in the name of jesus christ and all of the sudden it got off of me

That sounds tough. I'm glad rebuking it worked. That's the advice some of my born-again relatives would have given.

[pokomkno3]

If the "rebuke" method works for you than you should try some mantras or prayers, like is done with rosaries or Buddha-beads. They are even good for more mundane things like blotting out a song that may get stuck in your head...

some people were talking about stuff like that here https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/43638-buddhism-and-spiritual-protection/
they said to play the diamond sutra and things like that ~

most if not all religions complicate things for me and I don't want anything to do with them ~ I can grasp the concept of being good and not being evil ~ because I tend to understand simple things ~ If read any scriptures or listen to anyone preach or get near a church or anything like that it poisons the whole situation for me ~ I will only see an evil cult that I don't want anything to do with

silence is the best medicine for me ~ I just do bagua and study mandarin language ~ I silently chant a lot of mandarin ~ the beads are just about good and evil to me ~ nothing more complicated than that ~ very simple ~ every time I try to read the I Ching I need a dictionary because people use new complicated words to say simple things ~ I look up a big complicated word to find a couple of simple words as the definition ~why didn't they just use the simple words ? ~ I like simplicity and I don't want to expand my vocabulary ~ it's not necessary to complicate things .

praying works for stuff besides the lottery ~ sometimes you have to be pretty specific ~ the hard part is figuring out who or what to pray to


That sounds tough. I'm glad rebuking it worked. That's the advice some of my born-again relatives would have given.

I'm not a Christian ~ I was at one time but I found it to be an evil cult so I got away from it ~ so maybe there was a guy who was jesus that was good and not evil

but I find the christian god to be evil and I find the bible to be evil ~ it's just simplicity that works for me ~ it's either good or evil ~ anything else is too complicated for me to understand ~ I believe there are a lot of good people ~ jesus was just one of them

if he has power over evil demons I will be happy to have him on my side
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