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thedreamer7
08-25-2013, 07:22 AM
http://www.wingchuntaoist.com/2013/08/wing-chun-stepping.html

Yoshiyahu
08-27-2013, 08:37 AM
very good video showing toh ma...i think biu ma would have alot more force behind it!

wingchunIan
08-28-2013, 12:25 AM
Really poor demo of footwork. Everything in the clip is based on pushing with the arms and there is a complete disconnect between the step and the force delivery (not to mention a very compliant partner). To demo / train the thrusting action he needs to hold his elbows still or even lock them against his body then use just his legs to explode into the partner. Training footwork against a resistance is the same as doing weighted sled runs (which you can also do with biu ma if you have a sled and an outside space), it builds explosiveness in the footwork.

slick69
08-28-2013, 10:05 AM
Really poor demo of footwork. Everything in the clip is based on pushing with the arms and there is a complete disconnect between the step and the force delivery (not to mention a very compliant partner). To demo / train the thrusting action he needs to hold his elbows still or even lock them against his body then use just his legs to explode into the partner. Training footwork against a resistance is the same as doing weighted sled runs (which you can also do with biu ma if you have a sled and an outside space), it builds explosiveness in the footwork.

There is a post on Wing Chun Reddit asking was Wing Chun has such a bad reputation these days and the bad attitude associated with it. Your reply is a great example. Well done...

JPinAZ
08-28-2013, 05:12 PM
There is a post on Wing Chun Reddit asking was Wing Chun has such a bad reputation these days and the bad attitude associated with it. Your reply is a great example. Well done...

What's wrong with his post? He wasn't rude, he simply gave his opinion and backed it up with a supporting reason. Or is it just because he didn't agree with a clip you may have?

Maybe the bad rep WC gets is from the extremely touchy, overly sensitive people that we see posting more regularly on WC forums ;)

LFJ
08-28-2013, 06:36 PM
That guy just signed up to reply to that post. Must be the guy in the video. lol

Yoshiyahu
08-29-2013, 12:56 PM
What do you mean by lock them against his body?

in my opinion you want the elbow to be atleast an inch to an inch and half away from the body!



Really poor demo of footwork. Everything in the clip is based on pushing with the arms and there is a complete disconnect between the step and the force delivery (not to mention a very compliant partner). To demo / train the thrusting action he needs to hold his elbows still or even lock them against his body then use just his legs to explode into the partner. Training footwork against a resistance is the same as doing weighted sled runs (which you can also do with biu ma if you have a sled and an outside space), it builds explosiveness in the footwork.

thedreamer7
08-29-2013, 04:03 PM
Really poor demo of footwork. Everything in the clip is based on pushing with the arms and there is a complete disconnect between the step and the force delivery (not to mention a very compliant partner). To demo / train the thrusting action he needs to hold his elbows still or even lock them against his body then use just his legs to explode into the partner. Training footwork against a resistance is the same as doing weighted sled runs (which you can also do with biu ma if you have a sled and an outside space), it builds explosiveness in the footwork.

If you lock elbows against the body you have lost upper body strength, hence not connecting the lower and upper bodies. Its the rotation with the arms combined with the movement of the lower body and generates the push.

If the partner was to be compliant he would have jumped in the air and bounced a little :)

wingchunIan
08-30-2013, 02:25 PM
What do you mean by lock them against his body?

in my opinion you want the elbow to be atleast an inch to an inch and half away from the body!

to train / demo the legs you need to take the arms out of the equation. resting them on the hips does that, of course you can get the same result fixing your elbow position but there is always the temptation to cheat and push with the arms

wingchunIan
08-30-2013, 02:29 PM
If you lock elbows against the body you have lost upper body strength, hence not connecting the lower and upper bodies. Its the rotation with the arms combined with the movement of the lower body and generates the push.

If the partner was to be compliant he would have jumped in the air and bounced a little :)

see my previous post. Its all well and good trying to combine both upper and lower body and for application its the way to go but if you can't generate power from the legs then you will always over compensate with the upper body. IMO the best way to train the legs is to isolate them.

As for the jump and bounce, its only a little removed from the OTT staggering backwards.