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lkfmdc
10-24-2013, 06:09 AM
Mr. Ross, I'm not ganging up on you, so please don't take it that way. I realize being a businessman has it's downsides, but those are some pretty d@mning testimonials.



I gues you don't know how "yelp" works so let me inform you. They call you about advertising and if you say no, "mysteriously" your good reviews "filter out"

See if this works... http://www.yelp.com/filtered_reviews/RDDTAK26_ttp5zqhE25tiQ?fsid=B5Gl3XC7it1sudLYWZ_U8A

FIFTY THREE (53) "filtered reviews"

Anyway, not only do your good reviews "mysteriously" get "filtered" but bad ones start showing up. And people start suggesting to you that if you pay some money these reviews might go away

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/12425_4072773918212_297520382_n.jpg

Now, of course, some of these are "real" but you also have to remember that in this day and age everyone with internet access can whine like a petulant child when they feel wronged. Two people who wrote negative reviews took me to court AND LOST...... they wanted a refund because they had never cancelled but never showed up. We cancelled them once they asked to be cancelled but we dont' give refund just because you never got around to doing it sooner. AND THE JUDGE NOT ONLY AGREED WITH US, they ordered the other side to pay our legal costs....

More on YELP
http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2012/01/the-yelp-scam

http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2013/01/yelps-rocky-relationship-with-small-business029/

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/yelp-and-the-business-of-extortion-20/Content?oid=1176635

Pete
10-24-2013, 06:23 AM
hmm i'm not dlcox but yelp looks like a load of **** :eek:

lkfmdc
10-24-2013, 06:28 AM
hmm i'm not dlcox but yelp looks like a load of **** :eek:

increasingly peope will become aware that yelp is a fraud and a scam

do your own google search and you can find tons on them

Spiked
10-24-2013, 06:29 AM
I gues you don't know how "yelp" works so let me inform you. They call you about advertising and if you say no, "mysteriously" your good reviews "filter out"

See if this works... http://www.yelp.com/filtered_reviews/RDDTAK26_ttp5zqhE25tiQ?fsid=B5Gl3XC7it1sudLYWZ_U8A

FIFTY THREE (53) "filtered reviews"

Anyway, not only do your good reviews "mysteriously" get "filtered" but bad ones start showing up. And people start suggesting to you that if you pay some money these reviews might go away

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/12425_4072773918212_297520382_n.jpg

Now, of course, some of these are "real" but you also have to remember that in this day and age everyone with internet access can whine like a petulant child when they feel wronged. Two people who wrote negative reviews took me to court AND LOST...... they wanted a refund because they had never cancelled but never showed up. We cancelled them once they asked to be cancelled but we dont' give refund just because you never got around to doing it sooner. AND THE JUDGE NOT ONLY AGREED WITH US, they ordered the other side to pay our legal costs....

More on YELP
http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2012/01/the-yelp-scam

http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2013/01/yelps-rocky-relationship-with-small-business029/

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/yelp-and-the-business-of-extortion-20/Content?oid=1176635


Yeah right! Lol. You trying to be serious? Let me get this right. Those people are lying on an Internet site called yelp and you are refuting them and telling the truth on another Internet site?? :). I guess the Internet is full of liars.

Good job on the damage control though. You even posted your own links in defense. Meow, little kitten.

lkfmdc
10-24-2013, 06:32 AM
everyone just knew he couldn't help himself LOL.....

first we asked yelp to remove the review that called people "poor white trash"

They claimed that was an "editorial opinion" :rolleyes:

So we reached out directly to the person and said "you want to say you hated the workout, fine, just don't use raciallly derogatory statements"

They responded asking us to give them money

We sent, via certified mail, that email and they ignored us

YELP just lost a lawsuit RE this, it is the tip of the iceberg

Spiked
10-24-2013, 06:45 AM
Oh ok. Damage control, damage control.

Let us keep track of when he posts because does he not have to leave and "teach" his classes eventually? Lol lol lol


Too bad you cannot erase all those bad reviews on yelp. You wish you could though.

lkfmdc
10-24-2013, 06:54 AM
If you can't keep up with the conversation, let the adults talk ;)

More than 100 people have posted excellent reviews of us on YELP

THey were just "filtered" :rolleyes:

http://www.yelp.com/filtered_reviews/pgUn05-EmNdGmLvo8wV5AQ?fsid=GpiBKhn_hQTKtXjko_GnRQ

There are 46 sites including YELP in the net where people can leave reviews. "Strangely" on the other 45 of them we have a 90% (or higher) approval rating.....

The problem is, small minds can't grasp basic concepts

Kellen Bassette
10-24-2013, 07:00 AM
first we asked yelp to remove the review that called people "poor white trash"


What did you do to tick off Bawang???

lkfmdc
10-24-2013, 07:01 AM
What did you do to tick off Bawang???

hah ha, that was a good one ;)

Spiked
10-24-2013, 07:01 AM
If you can't keep up with the conversation, let the adults talk


That is the same thing san da fighters told you and your little band of Kung fu warriors.

Keep up the good work

lkfmdc
10-24-2013, 07:08 AM
YELP doesn't want anyone to realize that there are THOUSANDS of "filtered" reviews on their site....

They had to create access to them because of three class action law suits

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/yelp-moves-to-restore-user-trust-will-show-filtered-reviews/

A number of studies have shown that for "mysterious reasons" their filter process filters more positive reviews of those who don't pay for advertising and more negative reviews of those who pay yelp for advertising

yes, it is "mysterous"

lkfmdc
10-24-2013, 07:30 AM
http://socialtimes.com/is-yelp-the-thug-of-the-internet_b133404#disqus_thread

A few points that should be highlighted



Over 600 complaints filed with the FTC allege that Yelp is acting like those guys in Brooklyn. The claims suggest that Yelp is intentionally filtering positive reviews for a business listed on their site, and soon after, Yelp’s sales staff calls that business to indicate those positive reviews could be restored … If that business were to purchase some advertising.



and





one party who had their positive reviews filtered went to the local press, and their positive reviews were suddenly restored.



like I said, things over there at YELP are "mysterious"

Spiked
10-24-2013, 07:32 AM
You are really damage controlling hardcore. Wow. If the reviews were not true you would not be trying so hard.

lkfmdc
10-24-2013, 07:34 AM
Another $1 for me and Gene Ching :D

Pete
10-24-2013, 07:45 AM
increasingly peope will become aware that yelp is a fraud and a scam

do your own google search and you can find tons on them

to be honest i'd not heard of the site before but read the links you put up and it's shocking they can do that

also who the **** is spiked? seems like he's just hit puberty or something :o

Spiked
10-24-2013, 08:24 AM
Yelp is a fraud when things are negative for the dirty schooled fat pervert who runs ny sanda. If all the reviews had been positive and were bringing a lot of leads to his school he would be in love with yelp. LOL. Hypocrisy.

lkfmdc
10-24-2013, 08:25 AM
you're gaining new fans by the minute




who the **** is spiked? seems like he's just hit puberty or something :o

and, yes, I created all those internet articles about YELP's fraud and unethical practices (/sarcasm)

Spiked
10-24-2013, 08:29 AM
you're gaining new fans by the minute



and, yes, I created all those internet articles about YELP's fraud and unethical practices (/sarcasm)

Are you this sad that you have to repost the same thing in two threads? Where are all the fighters you claim to train? Oh yeah, I forgot the real coaches are renting space from you and training them in your facility.

Do those coaches know you are taking credit for their work? Or is it in their contract that the people they train are "NY Sanda" fighters and since you own ny sanda by proxy they are your fighters.

wow. I just figured out your business model. You are like Tiger Schulman except he really has skills.

lkfmdc
10-24-2013, 08:32 AM
LOL.... you come on like a comic book...

I guess it DOES bother you that other forum members have seen through your act, despite your claim just a minute ago that you don't care :D

You're a classic example that some people think that they can just say the same thing over and over again and people will believe them.....

But, really, no one is buying it, time to move on....

Maybe get out of that basement and get some fresh air :p

Pete
10-24-2013, 08:33 AM
i think he might be one of your coaches lol seems to have a chip on the old shoulder

can't you take it up in person spiked? keep the forum nice and free from bellends :cool:

Spiked
10-24-2013, 08:33 AM
LOL.... you come on like a comic book...

I guess it DOES bother you that other forum members have seen through your act, despite your claim just a minute ago that you don't care :D

You're a classic example that some people think that they can just say the same thing over and over again and people will believe them.....

But, really, no one is buying it, time to move on....

Maybe get out of that basement and get some fresh air :p

Are you slow?? I do not care what the other forum members think! I am not a poosey who needs his mommy and daddy like you. Only you care what they think. These posts are between you and I. No one else has really joined in.

lkfmdc
10-24-2013, 08:35 AM
i think he might be one of your coaches lol seems to have a chip on the old shoulder



Seeing as those "coaches" don't exist, that would be quite extra ordinary :D

Of course, the idea that he is a collective figment of the entire forum's imagination is a remarkable idea LOL

GeneChing
10-24-2013, 08:52 AM
I guess the Internet is full of liars.
Actually it's full of self-centered egotists who can't write. Just look around here.


Another $1 for me and Gene Ching :D
Wait...what? I could use $1. BTW, be Martial Art Smart, shop MartialArtsMart.com (http://www.martialartsmart.com). :D

lkfmdc
10-24-2013, 08:54 AM
Actually it's full of self-centered egotists who can't write.



I already told you, I LIKED your book a lot :D






shop MartialArtsMart.com (http://www.martialartsmart.com). :D

How can you not love the Chingster ;)

Scott R. Brown
10-24-2013, 09:17 AM
Any guess yet on who the most recent pu$$y and troll Spiked is?

I know who he sounds like to me, but how about everyone else?

lkfmdc
10-24-2013, 09:19 AM
Any guess yet on who the most recent pu$$y and troll Spiked is?

I know who he sounds like to me, but how about everyone else?

we could make a game of it :D

Scott R. Brown
10-24-2013, 09:23 AM
we could make a game of it :D

Winner gets a free month at NY Sanda?:D

lkfmdc
10-24-2013, 09:23 AM
Winner gets a free month at NY Sanda?:D

the mystical land where nothing really happens ;)

Kellen Bassette
10-24-2013, 09:25 AM
Winner gets a free month at NY Sanda?:D

I hear it smells bad there. :p

Kellen Bassette
10-24-2013, 09:27 AM
How can you not love the Chingster ;)

He understands the true Shaolin. Demonstrate technique, then immediately pass hat and sell trinkets. :D

Gong Fu and brand recognition baby!

Lucas
10-24-2013, 09:32 AM
Yelp is garbage. The last company I worked for is a very well respected community service provider. However with all services offered to the public, there will always be people who will complain. Sometimes legitimately, but many times simply to stroke and smooth their own complanitory ego.

As a whole on average the public has great commendable things to say, as do all of the award programs we would consistently be nominayed for and win.

However the experience with yelp is the same as lkfmdc is describing.

Besides, anyone who actually forms an opinion bases soley off of a single online skewed public forum comment system, without doing a more in depth study, doesn't really matter. The reason being....they ARE those people that complain to try and make themselves feel better about being sh1tty human beings.

:)

Kellen Bassette
10-24-2013, 09:34 AM
The reason being....they ARE those people that complain to try and make themselves feel better about being sh1tty human beings.

:)

And this is where we all meet. What's your point?

lkfmdc
10-24-2013, 09:36 AM
I just realized.... at some point dlcox is going to log on here and try to read this entire mess :eek:

:D

Scott R. Brown
10-24-2013, 09:44 AM
In this internet age it is easy to find people who will denigrate you and hard to find people who will praise you.

What this does, for smart people, is tell you more about the whiners and complainers than it does about those they whine and complain about.

Spiked
10-24-2013, 09:45 AM
I just realized.... at some point dlcox is going to log on here and try to read this entire mess :eek:

:D

He does not have to read the entire mess. He can look at the positive and negative reviews on my link and come to his own conclusions.

lkfmdc
10-24-2013, 09:49 AM
In this internet age it is easy to find people who will denigrate you and hard to find people who will praise you.

What this does, for smart people, is tell you more about the whiners and complainers than it does about those they whine and complain about.

well, you have to find it funny that people sign up for a martial arts class and then get upset that people are sweating :D

for the most part, you just see people who whine when they can't get exactly their way, and martial arts doesn't work that way