bak mei video

[David Jamieson]

I liked this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnsXP2v1iIs#t=61

one of you guys?

Other Bak Mei people wanna comment?

[bawang]

look closely

rubber legs

[David Jamieson]

look closely

rubber legs

I still like it. :)

[Frost]

Yeah Alex posts here on occasion, I like his stuff some of the better bakmei out there on the net, he has some nice power but as always when you are showing applications from forms it can be a bit contrived. I didn't see too much wrong with his stances and footwork to be honest

[David Jamieson]

In all fairness, different terrain causes different things to happen with your footwork.

A squash court is totally different from a concrete driveway is totally different from a grass field and so on.

To that end, the only issue I saw was the shoes were gripping and sometime sliding a little. Otherwise, yes, the applications are contrived, but in this vid, they're not too bad and he made a real effort to show the apps as they were.

hence, I still like it. :)

[Golden Arms]

Very little overlap with how I use my Pak Mei.

[lkfmdc]

I only watched it once, but I saw a few decent applications... at least he HAD applicatons

[Frost]

Very little overlap with how I use my Pak Mei.

maybe you would like to share how your lineage does it, or is that still a secret you can only talk about in vague therms and not show.....:rolleyes:

[Golden Arms]

All a decent fighter has to do is compare what you see in the video with a good boxer and you will see a lot of realities of fighting that are missing.

For starters:

Stepping that does not put one at high risk of being swept.
Natural movement
Efficient footwork that puts one at an advantage and the opponent at a disadvantage
Slipping
Appropriate range
You are protected, the opponent is not (dominant position)

Are you saying you see that there?

I spent quite a bit of time fighting full contact, I wouldn't pick or practice a style that didn't match up with the realities of fighting skilled opponents.

[Golden Arms]

By the way, I feel those requirement should be leveled at all Chinese Martial Arts, not just the practitioner in the video, I certainly hold my own practice to the same standard. Martial arts that are divorced from the realities of fighting are of little interest to me regardless of the style.

[David Jamieson]

By the way, I feel those requirement should be leveled at all Chinese Martial Arts, not just the practitioner in the video, I certainly hold my own practice to the same standard. Martial arts that are divorced from the realities of fighting are of little interest to me regardless of the style.

This is a statement that is rolling off the tongues of many a practitioner these days it seems.

[lkfmdc]

well, in my thinking, and you may all be surprised

you have two sets of applications

what he is showing is what was in the "mind" when the set was created, ie techniques that CMA people were using in China 100 years or so ago

then of course there is a way to interpret these same movements to be applicable to modern fighting circumstances

but to fault him for showing one thing but not the other may not be "fair"

[Golden Arms]

well, in my thinking, and you may all be surprised

you have two sets of applications

what he is showing is what was in the "mind" when the set was created, ie techniques that CMA people were using in China 100 years or so ago

then of course there is a way to interpret these same movements to be applicable to modern fighting circumstances

but to fault him for showing one thing but not the other may not be "fair"

Sorry I don't agree. The requirements for fighting bare knuckle were the same 200 years ago as they would be today. You either train it or you don't.

http://content.artofmanliness.com/uploads/2009/05/boxers3.jpg
http://filipinoboxingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Bare-knuckle-boxing-300x218.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vm7ZRh2Go14/UFYpN5XKk_I/AAAAAAAABEc/4ZKDpRT0YXE/s1600/Cheunglaichun%5B1%5D.jpg

[lkfmdc]

Sorry I don't agree. The requirements for fighting bare knuckle were the same 200 years ago as they would be today. You either train it or you don't.

http://content.artofmanliness.com/uploads/2009/05/boxers3.jpg
http://filipinoboxingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Bare-knuckle-boxing-300x218.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vm7ZRh2Go14/UFYpN5XKk_I/AAAAAAAABEc/4ZKDpRT0YXE/s1600/Cheunglaichun%5B1%5D.jpg

aside from the fact the pictures you just posted only have passing similarities, bare knuckle boxing did not have bridging, trapping and chin na concepts....

[YouKnowWho]

Stepping that does not put one at high risk of being swept.
This is very important point. You should always land your leading foot "in front of" your opponent's leading foot. You should never put your leading foot "next" or "pass" your opponent's leading foot (he can scoop you).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq5xRBm72mk&feature=youtu.be

unless you want to step deeply between your opponent's legs and take away his center.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWDlmGoKAns&feature=youtu.be

[lkfmdc]

Not entirely true. Before the introduction of mufflers and the New Queensbury rules, bare knuckle boxing included a fair amount of gouging, purring, wrassling and hurling. It was conceptually very similar to MMA. In America, especially in the Appalachia it was referred to as rough and tumble.

gouging happened but was always illegal

wrestling is not bridging or chin na

purring is shin kicking and was NEVER legal

[bawang]

gouging happened but was always illegal

wrestling is not bridging or chin na

purring is shin kicking and was NEVER legal

gouging and purring were legal in 1800s

[Ao Qin]

Hello all,

I thought the spring power - short, shocking power looked very good. The video itself is nicely done. He has a good appreciation for application - I learned a few new interesting concepts that hadn't occurred to me before, especially from Gau Bo Toi. Foot work looks good too - hard to tell how rooted he is, but his rising and sinking is well coordinated.

Thanks for posting the link!

AQ

[DuKe1973]

My expressions are not the gospel to all, but they work for me. Unlike many others, I am not offended by opinions or constructive criticism. There are many ways avenues that can lead to the same destination and not every avenue is meant for everybody. The first step in my training is imitate my masters for it is the greatest form of flattery. Only later do I add my own spice. As far as bou faht, no matter if one faces Southpaw or orthodox to an opponent, I make sure I am content with countering the "what if's". One should be able to transition from one shape to another without breaking structure and flow. For those who can see it, I went through the Jik Bo, Gau Bo, and Sup Bot Mor Kiu in sequential order.. Yes, I can bare knuckle fight. There's not really much I wouldn't share these days because I'm not asking for an occult, nor am I out to prove others ways wrong. I may not find some work appealing, but I justify myself for the most part. If anyone wants a video response, inbox me on YouTube. IMHO CLC BM needs more men to step it up. I'm just getting started.