How to Get the most out of snt practice

[Hendrik]

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[SavvySavage]

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The way to get the most out of snt practice is by not wasting more than a 3 minutes of training time doing snt.

[Vajramusti]

The way to get the most out of snt practice is by not wasting more than a 3 minutes of training time doing snt.
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Nonsense- a well done sil lim tao is at the core of wing chun. I have not watched Hendrik's 3 videos.

[SavvySavage]

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Nonsense- a well done sil lim tao is at the core of wing chun. I have not watched Hendrik's 3 videos.

The core of wing chun training is chi sao and then sparring.
When you have limited training time you can't spend lots of time on forms. There's too much other stuff to train.

[Vajramusti]

The core of wing chun training is chi sao and then sparring.
When you have limited training time you can't spend lots of time on forms. There's too much other stuff to train.
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SLT teaches correct control of motions. Without that development chi sao becomes flotsam jetsam
and sloppy. Good slt and good chi sao are both needed.

[SavvySavage]

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SLT teaches correct control of motions. Without that development chi sao becomes flotsam jetsam
and sloppy. Good slt and good chi sao are both needed.

I would say that people who chi Sao "sloppily" tend to be new at it. As time goes on and they chi sao more it gets better. But to improve in chi sao there must've chi sao. SNT is secondary.

[Vajramusti]

[QUOTE=SavvySavage;1257956]I would say that people who chi Sao "sloppily" tend to be new at it. As time goes on and they chi sao more it gets better. But to improve in chi sao there must've chi sao. SNT is secondary.[/QUOTE-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

You are entitled to your opinion... but it is pointless to argue with you.

[YouKnowWho]

But to improve in chi sao there must've chi sao. SNT is secondary.

I agree that "partner training" should come before "solo training". You can learn everything from the partner training. The solo training is just the final "polishing" when you are home and alone by yourself.

You can have all the fun when you make love to your girl than just to masturbate to yourself. When you get old and your love one dies, you may have to masturbate to yourself. Until then you should spend more time on your girl instead of to hide yourself in a dark corner and "masturbate".

[LFJ]

Bawang? Did you hack into John's account? :D

[anerlich]

The core of wing chun training is chi sao and then sparring.
When you have limited training time you can't spend lots of time on forms. There's too much other stuff to train.

You train forms and dummy when you're training on your own. You can't chi sao and spar with yourself.

[SavvySavage]

You train forms and dummy when you're training on your own. You can't chi sao and spar with yourself.

When I train solo I do stuff to make me stronger and stuff to make me more relaxed afterwards(qi gong). Snt has limited gains even if you supposedly do it for an hour. You would be better off standing in a hoe stance for a shorter time instead of he high pidgeon toe stance for an hour. I'm not advocating jorstabce stance training per se I'm just comparing similar training practices. If you're going to stand in pidgeon two stance you might as well do horse instead.

[Vajramusti]

When I train solo I do stuff to make me stronger and stuff to make me more relaxed afterwards(qi gong). Snt has limited gains even if you supposedly do it for an hour. You would be better off standing in a hoe stance for a shorter time instead of he high pidgeon toe stance for an hour. I'm not advocating jorstabce stance training per se I'm just comparing similar training practices. If you're going to stand in pidgeon two stance you might as well do horse instead.
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you seem to have your prescription-opinions are dime a dozen-good luck with yours.

[anerlich]

When I train solo I do stuff to make me stronger and stuff to make me more relaxed afterwards(qi gong). Snt has limited gains even if you supposedly do it for an hour. You would be better off standing in a hoe stance for a shorter time instead of he high pidgeon toe stance for an hour. I'm not advocating jorstabce stance training per se I'm just comparing similar training practices. If you're going to stand in pidgeon two stance you might as well do horse instead.

I don't know what pidgeon two stance is, but I sure as hell ain't going to practice Ho stance. :p

I look forward to the verification of the results of your original training methods and your oh-so-unique insights and specialised knowledge when you become famous as a combat athlete and coach.

Truthfully, I wouldn't do SLT for an hour either. Or watch any more of Hendrik's videos.

[SavvySavage]

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you seem to have your prescription-opinions are dime a dozen-good luck with yours.

And you have your prescription. What's your point? This is a forum. Someone posts a opinion you don't agree with and you feel you have to type, "that's your opinion. No use in arguing."

You seem smug as if saying, "that's your opinion but it's wrong". Either respond with a counterpoint or don't respond at all because so far your posts on this thread are a waste...besides the one where you said snt training was crucial.

I don't agree with that assertion but I didn't bash it. It might help of you fleshed out your opinions more instead of posting random sayings from your teacher and then poo pooing on others.

[SavvySavage]

I don't know what pidgeon two stance is, but I sure as hell ain't going to practice Ho stance. :p

I look forward to the verification of the results of your original training methods and your oh-so-unique insights and specialised knowledge when you become famous as a combat athlete and coach.

Truthfully, I wouldn't do SLT for an hour either. Or watch any more of Hendrik's videos.

What are you talking about? Only a combat athlete/coach has a valid opinion?

[SavvySavage]

I don't know what pidgeon two stance is, but I sure as hell ain't going to practice Ho stance. :p

I look forward to the verification of the results of your original training methods and your oh-so-unique insights and specialised knowledge when you become famous as a combat athlete and coach.

Truthfully, I wouldn't do SLT for an hour either. Or watch any more of Hendrik's videos.

Ho stance was supposed to be horse stance.

[anerlich]

Ho stance was supposed to be horse stance.

I knew that. Just had the image in my head of

Ho stance: leaning against a lamppost wearing skanky clothes propositioning the drivers of a procession of cars.

[bcbernam777]

For those of you who say that the SNT is secondary. Then it is obvious you understand neither the SNT and by extension wing chun.

[LFJ]

I think the point being made or at least that I would make is that, yes, everything refers back to SNT, but SNT alone is not functional. If SNT is your primary training above partner work, then you won't get far beyond having a little idea about what fighting is. Partner work above all should be the primary training, especially for someone beyond the first couple months of training. But SNT is of overall importance because, again, everything should refer back to it, so it should be trained often, but it should be behind sparring and chi-sau on the list of priorities for most practitioners. Especially in a limited classroom setting where time and resources must be used wisely.

[anerlich]

What are you talking about? Only a combat athlete/coach has a valid opinion?

I'm implying that an anonymous internet poster's opinion is no more valid than anyone else's. Except that of someone who can demonstrate results.

Or that maybe you could opine rather than lecture, especially as you have no obvious special qualifications.

[Frost]

I'm implying that an anonymous internet poster's opinion is no more valid than anyone else's. Except that of someone who can demonstrate results.

Or that maybe you could opine rather than lecture, especially as you have no obvious special qualifications.

talking of qualifications well done on getting your blackbelt

[anerlich]

talking of qualifications well done on getting your blackbelt

Thanks, Frosty :D

[Vajramusti]

talking of qualifications well done on getting your blackbelt
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Congratulations!

[anerlich]

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Congratulations!

Thank you Joy.

[Wayfaring]

talking of qualifications well done on getting your blackbelt

Yes, congrats!!!

[anerlich]

Yes, congrats!!!

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[trubblman]

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The core of wing chun training is chi sao and then sparring.


The core of wing chun? Learning SLT comes before learning Chi Sao. If you dont know SLT you will NEVER do chi sao correctly.