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Mr. Nemo
11-17-2001, 09:10 PM
Lewis by KO in the 4th! He looked really, really, good, make Rahman look bad. Man was I wrong, I picked Rahman by middle to late round KO.

I'm beginning to wonder if Tyson has a chance against Lewis should they fight. Tyson's not as quick as he used to be, and he's short. Lewis is tall and he knows it and uses his height and reach well - I have a feeling that Lewis-Tyson might look like Lewis-Tua.

I should've known Lewis would win after Max Kellerman picked Rahman. Silly me. And of course, the ballet training Lewis did (see the "Lewis looks in shape this time" thread) obviously gave him a huge advantage.

Sorry I was a little late with being first with the results. Sharky reminded me. I have to write 7-10 pages on 14th and 15th century French chansons by tuesday, so I've been pretty busy.

Spark
11-17-2001, 10:09 PM
Once again you were second to me.

My thread is now on the second page. I posted literally 30 seconds after the KO.

You can have UFC/Pride etc. but I will always have Boxing.

Why isn't anyone posting after this??? I guess too many people are eating their words now.

Except me!! :D :D

Sharky
11-18-2001, 12:35 AM
surprising stats

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1660000/images/_1660177_rahman_lewis3_300_info.gif

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Sharky, I should expect this level of immaturity from you after seeing your post titled "Hm." regarding the woman that lives next door to you. I think everyone who unfortuneatly read that post is a bit more ignorant now for doing so. - Spectre

All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.

arsenal_fc
11-18-2001, 03:21 AM
Rahman was crushed. Fantastic.

The footwork was a big key. Leading up to the fight, a reporter from maxboxing.com witnessed a Lewis workout and said that his footwork was amazing. Rahman, after the fight, said that Lewis' footwork was a bigger problem for him than the jab.

Of course, Rahman's mediocre skills didn't hurt Lewis' chances either.

apoweyn
11-18-2001, 05:03 PM
the footwork on the fight-ending right cross was brilliant. similar to how i was taught to throw a thai roundhouse. never seen a punch thrown that way before.

i kinda dug the undercards too, though after standing in a bar through 34 rounds of boxing, i was getting a bit antsy by the main event.

Spark
11-18-2001, 07:38 PM
you've never seen a punch like that before because Lennox Lewis is the one and only PUGILIST SPECIALIST! He has a complete arsenal of attacks and that's what he did to floor the ex-chump, oops, i mean champ.

Those undercards weren't bad. The Joppy v. Eastman fight was alot better than I had expected. If there were a few more rounds, or Eastman had been more aggressive earlier he would have KO'd Joppy. Too bad. His showboating was sweet though. :D

jimmy23
11-18-2001, 07:50 PM
I had figured Lewis would win this one, when hes focused hes a GREAT fighter. I like Rahman, but Lewis is just on a whole other level


"You guys have obviously never done any real fighting if you are mocking spitting"
Spinning Backfist

apoweyn
11-18-2001, 08:08 PM
Joppy vs. Eastman. That's the one I was trying to remember. That was interesting. Eastman's beard made him look like he was in his fifties. But the guy's my age. I kept having to remind myself of that.

But yeah, his showboating was pretty spectacular. I'm not generally a big fan of pomp and circumstance. But I was entertained, I have to admit.

I thought the first fight, the women, was awesome though. Perhaps it was partially because it was the first fight, and I wasn't getting impatient yet. But that was a technically tight fight. Christy Martin was excellent. And Debra whatsername got better as the fight progressed. Not a bad first showing.

I did think it was kinda funny to hear a woman nicknamed "the coalminer's daughter" loudly proclaim "you in mah house now!"

I was torn on the big event. I didn't have strong feelings about who won one way or another. Where they were from was as good a basis as any, I decided. Then I realized that one was English, the other Baltimorean. Having ties to both places, I essentially just flipped a coin at that point. Came up with Lennox.

Lucky me. Unlucky Hasim.

Spark
11-18-2001, 09:38 PM
Yeah, the more I think of it - I'm glad Lewis lost the first fight. Now we can see him focused and in his best shape for his last fights. The way he was going just looked like he was bored and was just coasting through his fights.

Yeah, when I saw Eastman I was all, **** this dude needs a cane! I was surprised how well he did. A lot of questions never having fought outside of Europe, if it wasn't for that slight beating in the middle rounds he may have pulled it off. I wouldn't mind seeing him fight again.

Christy Martin is a thug. I don't know why Mia St. John wants to get in the ring with her, her pretty face will get all messed up.

Hey, where's Lost Disciple? :D

apoweyn
11-18-2001, 09:45 PM
she's a talented thug though. [smile]

Lost_Disciple
11-19-2001, 10:29 AM
Wish I saw more of that fight.

You were right spark, Rahman just wasn't in his league.

Lewis' "cruise control mode" is why i didn't like him.

I was disappointed in Lewis' outing against Tua and thought he deserved the Rahman KO.

I'm trying to remember but around the Tua fight- within a year before or after- didn't Lewis knock somebody through the ring ropes?

I thought that outing shoulda been the benchmark for all his performances.

I'm not a huge fan of guys who outclass their oponents only to go the distance. That's why Roy Jones Jr. gets so much flack.

The Ring's description of Lewis, same as spark's, ie. the pugilist specialist, gave me some respect from Lewis. But respecting and liking are 2 different things.

I think he needs to stay driven in order for me to like him.

Otherwise, Klitschko's my last hope; but he needs a while to incubate.

I was a Tyson-mark in my youth, but he doesn't impress me anymore. Maybe he will again, I dunno.

Me and sports are not getting along right now.

http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/4_3/images/gk1.jpg
Just some thoughts from an ignoramus.

Spark
11-19-2001, 03:57 PM
I hope I didn't come off too cocky or arrogant in previous posts, if lewis had lost i would have as graciously admitted my error as you have.

With that said, I agree with pretty much everything you said. 'Cruise Control' Lewis was getting a bit boring, and even though it didn't bother me THAT much, I can see why people gave him flak for it. The Lewis we all saw on the 17th is the REAL Lennox Lewis, the old Lennox Lewis is the one who knew he could beat all his opponents, and was happy to do so by a 12 rnd. decision. He truly is head and shoulder above pretty much everyone in the HW division. Here's an analogy. You have a first place team playing a last place team in any sport. The first place team knows they're 10X better and think they can beat them with 50% effort. But then they play someone who has heart and they get spanked - just like Lewis.

I think the Lewis fight you might be thinking of was Michael Grant, Lewis beat him up pretty good. The fight with Rahman v. Maskaev ended with Rahman through the ropes, and the strange thing is Maskaev got worse after that and Rahman only got better. Go figure.

Anyhow, I'm looking forward to Dec. 1 and Jan 19 now big time to see who Lewis will want to fight next. If Tyson loses, then I say take out WK now before he gets any better. Now or later, if this is the Lewis we see in all his remaining fights, I don't think anyone will beat him.

Lost_Disciple
11-20-2001, 08:08 AM
No it's cool. I knew you were just messing around.

I completely forgot the name of the guy Lewis knocked through the ring ropes, but the guy pretty much sat on the bottom rope.

I saw pix of rahman goin through the ropes.

Your analogy about Lewis with his competition is really pretty good. It's the exact reason that I love the Yankees, and most people hate them. There's this old quote from one of the old Yankee GMs from back in the day. It went something like "Seven runs in the first inning's a good start, then we'll slowly start to pull away". They try to eek out every possible run & base hit they can get.

That's the kind of heart I like to see from athelets. I think that's the kind of heart I think athletes should be putting forth if they're being paid millions of dollars for every appearance. The idea of the jaded millionaire athlete is one that grates on the nerves of the average fans that are responsible for a lot of the money that makes up their salaries.

Maybe I'm just selfish, I don't know. But think of it this way, ending the fight quick with a KO is actually probably better for your opponent than suffering him through 5 to 8 more rounds of punishment.

Hopefully this "determined Lewis" will stick around for a while.

http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/4_3/images/gk1.jpg
Just some thoughts from an ignoramus.

Spark
11-20-2001, 05:54 PM
It was Andrew Golata!!!!! Lewis KO'd him in the first round! And he was lying in the ropes with this messed up look on his face! It was actually pretty funny if you ask me!

I see what you're saying about Lewis' style. But if you think back, the only real snoozer in the last couple of years was (well after Holyfield) the Tua fight. He KO'd Golatta in the First, He KO'd Grant in the second. He messed up Botha. I just think because he doesn't stand toe to toe and brawl it out we think his style is boring. And I wouldn't expect him to have many repeat performances like this in his last fights. Of all the people listed as potential 'last fights' in his career, the only one I see ending in a KO is Tyson. WK, Byrd, Johnson, Ruiz - I'm sure they'll all go the distance because they are all decent boxers that Lewis will have more than one thing to deal with.

Did you hear the smack Tyson was saying about the Lewis fight? How it was 'technically flawed'? What a clown. Tyson is going to get smoked, you heard it here ... well not first, but i'm putting my money on Lewis - BOTH TIMES! :D