Ufc 168

[SoCo KungFu]

So that looks to be the end of Anderson's career. Crap that it would end this way.

[David Jamieson]

It had to end somehow, someway.
Nobody gets to stay at the top Nobody.
He went out all crunchy that's all.
God speed Anderson!

[Kellen Bassette]

He had a great run....

[Jimbo]

Wishing him the best in his recovery.

Fighting careers rarely end 'ideally', with one last victory and a speech to cap it off. Regardless, any fighter will be hard-pressed to equal his accomplishments.

[SoCo KungFu]

Its not about ending on top, or even on a high note. Its about, at the very least, walking out of the cage on your own feet. Just because someone fights to make their pay check, doesn't mean its not a shame when its possible he may never be able to walk the same again. Let alone fight. I don't think people realize how significant of an injury this is. A break like this, can literally cost you your leg.

[sanjuro_ronin]

The very nature of full contact is FULL CONTACT and all that comes with it.
Injuries are part of the game.
The human body is very resilient and at the same time, very fragile. It's a fine line.
The shin break is actually pretty common and not just in MA.
The issue about the the low kick has always been the angle of impact and when the angle is off and impact is made with the flat of the shin and not the edge, a break can happen far easier than many realize.

Such is life in sports combat.

[GeneChing]

I was invited to a viewing party but went to see The Hobbit instead (should have been called the Desolation of Tolkien). That was regrettable in every way. :o

Saw the highlights the next morning. The general press coverage, what little there is of it, comes off negative for UFC, not only because of the graphic gruesomeness of the break, but Rousey's villainess role. Actually, that could play to UFC's advantage. They've been pushing Rousey to be their new babe, but as a villainess, she might have more potential. Everyone loves a good villainess.

[SoCo KungFu]

The very nature of full contact is FULL CONTACT and all that comes with it.
Injuries are part of the game.
The human body is very resilient and at the same time, very fragile. It's a fine line.
The shin break is actually pretty common and not just in MA.
The issue about the the low kick has always been the angle of impact and when the angle is off and impact is made with the flat of the shin and not the edge, a break can happen far easier than many realize.

Such is life in sports combat.

Internal hemorrhaging associated with bone fracture can be quite severe. Additionally, this was complete break of 2 bones (tib/fib). With his foot flopping around, that was 4 sharp edges that were slicing through whatever they happened to grind against. This can tear blood vessels, sever nerves and do further tissue trauma. Bone fragments can puncture vasculature. More complication arises when muscles contract against the now broken long bones, pulling the lower limb up into the proximal range of the break. All of this, in addition to the issues already stated, can lead to severe swelling in an isolated compartment of the body, further cutting off blood and nerve function (ie compartment syndrome).

Commonality, does not limit severity. In every occurrence, it is considered a medical emergency.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Internal hemorrhaging associated with bone fracture can be quite severe. Additionally, this was complete break of 2 bones (tib/fib). With his foot flopping around, that was 4 sharp edges that were slicing through whatever they happened to grind against. This can tear blood vessels, sever nerves and do further tissue trauma. Bone fragments can puncture vasculature. More complication arises when muscles contract against the now broken long bones, pulling the lower limb up into the proximal range of the break. All of this, in addition to the issues already stated, can lead to severe swelling in an isolated compartment of the body, further cutting off blood and nerve function (ie compartment syndrome).

Commonality, does not limit severity. In every occurrence, it is considered a medical emergency.

Something (injuries) that every fighter is aware off.
Comes with the territory.

[Brule]

I was invited to a viewing party but went to see The Hobbit instead (should have been called the Desolation of Tolkien). That was regrettable in every way. :o

Saw the highlights the next morning. The general press coverage, what little there is of it, comes off negative for UFC, not only because of the graphic gruesomeness of the break, but Rousey's villainess role. Actually, that could play to UFC's advantage. They've been pushing Rousey to be their new babe, but as a villainess, she might have more potential. Everyone loves a good villainess.

Rousey basically admitted to that role in the post fight presser. At least that's what I took away from her comments.

[Syn7]

Rousey basically admitted to that role in the post fight presser. At least that's what I took away from her comments.

She's frontin'. Straight up. Great fight though. I'm glad she won. Don't want to see Tate champ. Anyone think McMann or Zingano will beat her? They're both good, but I dunno.

[GeneChing]

That's Olympic Judo, not BJJ. :p Surely, she's a force to be reckoned with. I look forward to watching her career progress.

[Frost]

That's Olympic Judo, not BJJ. :p Surely, she's a force to be reckoned with. I look forward to watching her career progress.

really when did she win that.....i mean i know she has a bronze medal and all that when did she find time to win the gold as well???

Bang up reporting there way to get the facts right
:)

[GeneChing]

Rousey is the 1st U.S. female to win an Olympic medal in Judo period.

I may have started my NYE festivities a little early this year. :o

Next up for Rousey - 2004 Olympic freestyle wrestling silver medalist Sara McMann. Gotta hand it to UFC. That's a very interesting pairing. Olympiad vs. Olympiad.

[Syn7]

If McMann wins, it will be by holding her down and pounding her out. If she can neutralize the judo/bjj and stay on top, she can do it. They are both really strong. Neither has a very good stand up game, but Rousey is better on her feet. I think Rousey will be better in the clinch. But who knows. Can't wait to see.

[RickMatz]

If McMann wins, it will be by holding her down and pounding her out. If she can neutralize the judo/bjj and stay on top, she can do it. They are both really strong. Neither has a very good stand up game, but Rousey is better on her feet. I think Rousey will be better in the clinch. But who knows. Can't wait to see.

Rousey is about 27 and McMann is about 33. That might be an edge for Rousey.

McMann is the first opponent who will have a pedigree and background anywhere approaching Rousey's. McMann started wrestling in high school, and made it to the Olympics, where she took a silver.

It should be a very good match.

[Stickgrappler]

I made 10 GIFs from Round 1 of Ronda Rousey vs Meisha Tate.

Enjoy!

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Rd 1 Pt 1

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Rd 1 Pt 2

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Rd 2 Part 1

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4 more here:

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Rd 2 Pt 2

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5 more here


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Rd 3


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3 more here:

http://www.stickgrappler.net/2013/12/round-3-gif-highlights-of-ronda-rousey.html

Enjoy!

[Stickgrappler]

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4 more GIFs here:

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Enjoy!

[Robinhood]

Rousey is about 27 and McMann is about 33. That might be an edge for Rousey.

McMann is the first opponent who will have a pedigree and background anywhere approaching Rousey's. McMann started wrestling in high school, and made it to the Olympics, where she took a silver.

It should be a very good match.

They should just eliminate the arm bars, and let then really fight. Who " wants to watch two people rolling around until one gets an arm bar . -boring.

[Stickgrappler]

RR is 8-0 and SM is 7-0, have to check their records, but think RR had slightly higher-caliber opponents? Haven't seen SM fight, but excited by the idea of Olympian Judoka vs Olympian Wrestler

Always wondered what would happen if Randy Couture fought an Olympian Judoka... although Randy wasn't officially an Olympian but I think he's Olympic-caliber.

[Syn7]

They should just eliminate the arm bars, and let then really fight. Who " wants to watch two people rolling around until one gets an arm bar . -boring.

Are you serious? Let them really fight, but constrain them even more than they already are with the current rule set?

MMA isn't for you.



RR is 8-0 and SM is 7-0, have to check their records, but think RR had slightly higher-caliber opponents? Haven't seen SM fight, but excited by the idea of Olympian Judoka vs Olympian Wrestler

Always wondered what would happen if Randy Couture fought an Olympian Judoka... although Randy wasn't officially an Olympian but I think he's Olympic-caliber.


Couture was an Olympian. He went three times as an alternate.

McMann is basically a wrestler who grounds and pounds and has a few subs. You've seen that movie before. I think it will really come down to the clinch, and whether McMann can maintain top position, safely, if she does get Rousey on her back. If McMann can hold her down, she will grind away. As for stand up, I think Rousey is better, but who knows, neither are very good strikers. They both basically can hold their own long enough to use their grappling skills to win. McMann has won over half her fights by decision or in the third, so she has shown she can hang in the deep end, whereas Rousey has been past the first round once. It's hard to tell, but if McMann can ride her like a wet carpet, she may wear Rousey out. But again, who knows. Should be a good fight. I'm curious as to what others think may happen, who has what advantage where. Predictions, anyone?

[Dragonzbane76]

They should just eliminate the arm bars, and let then really fight. Who " wants to watch two people rolling around until one gets an arm bar . -boring.

looking for a rise?? I would say so.

[Stickgrappler]

Couture was an Olympian. He went three times as an alternate.

McMann is basically a wrestler who grounds and pounds and has a few subs. You've seen that movie before. I think it will really come down to the clinch, and whether McMann can maintain top position, safely, if she does get Rousey on her back. If McMann can hold her down, she will grind away. As for stand up, I think Rousey is better, but who knows, neither are very good strikers. They both basically can hold their own long enough to use their grappling skills to win. McMann has won over half her fights by decision or in the third, so she has shown she can hang in the deep end, whereas Rousey has been past the first round once. It's hard to tell, but if McMann can ride her like a wet carpet, she may wear Rousey out. But again, who knows. Should be a good fight. I'm curious as to what others think may happen, who has what advantage where. Predictions, anyone?

Dayum, I said Randy WAS an Olympian somewhere else and they shot me down saying he wasn't. Guessing they didn't think being alternate counted. Whatever.

I have to see McMann fight to be fair before I make a call. Agree with you, ultimately who controls in the clinch has a better chance to win. McMann in an interview said something to the effect that although Meisha Tate didn't win, she exposed a RR grappling weakness. Think SM is mainly Freestyle? WOnder if she had any Greco-Roman experience.

[Stickgrappler]

RR did look like she was breathing heavily through her mouth at times.

[Syn7]

Think SM is mainly Freestyle? WOnder if she had any Greco-Roman experience.

Dunno, but her comp record is all freestyle.

[GeneChing]

66 seconds? srsly?

Talk about Fem-MMA premature TKO. :p

[Syn7]

I've been dropped by a liver shot before. I dunno if she would have come back from that. She went into freestyle wrestler survival mode that we are all too familiar with in MMA. That being said, she deserved the chance to see it through just like Faber did. Herb, what up? He's one of the best out there. Two in a row ain't a good look.

Had it gone on, I'm thinking that Rousey would have clipped her a few times then taken an arm. If McMann were to survive that, who knows.

I would like to see a rematch. I honestly think McMann can beat rousey. She deserves another chance. Zingano would be interesting too. But she will get her ass handed too here if she can't keep the distance.

So Santos is an interesting one. I think such a huge weight cut for somebody who has a history of trouble cutting weight will be a huge factor there. I doubt she would have anything to offer in the deep end. But the first round or two could be dangerous.