Wck Jin by Jim Rosalendo

[Hendrik]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5SVdSR9_vs

[Hendrik]

What Jim share here is the seven bows type of Jin which develop with formulae 2014 within YKSLT. Or refer as the snake engine.

[Hendrik]

YKSLT at MIT

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YZaqAKreJ9M

[tc101]

What Jim share here is the seven bows type of Jin which develop with formulae 2014 within YKSLT. Or refer as the snake engine.

And what do you think that will help you do?

[zuti car]

I don t know about snakes, but this looks like feeding crane to me, I am seeing this coupe of times per week . I can do this also ,so what , nothing special , no secrets , no chi flow , just proper alignment of the body

[Hendrik]

I don t know about snakes, but this looks like feeding crane to me, I am seeing this coupe of times per week . I can do this also ,so what , nothing special , no secrets , no chi flow , just proper alignment of the body

iPhone looks like Samsung phone too.

[zuti car]

iPhone looks like Samsung phone too.

Yes , and they have same functions , make up does not change the essence . Like I said , I can do same thing as a guy on the video , with much larger opponent . No snakes , no secrets , and I do not believe in qi and stuff .

[Hendrik]

Yes , and they have same functions , make up does not change the essence . Like I said , I can do same thing as a guy on the video , with much larger opponent . No snakes , no secrets , and I do not believe in qi and stuff .

Post your video in utube and back up your claim.

Otherwise,
As your claim on emei where you still can't back up. What is good ?

http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?67593-Hendrik-amp-Emei-Shier-Zhuang-Supporters-Please-Read&p=1267254#post1267254

[zuti car]

Post your video in utube and back up your claim.

Otherwise,
As your claim on emei where you still can't back up. What is good ?

http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?67593-Hendrik-amp-Emei-Shier-Zhuang-Supporters-Please-Read&p=1267254#post1267254

Maybe I will post a video. About emei , you are the one who cannot back up your claims, I am still waiting that address

[Hendrik]

Maybe I will post a video.

About emei , you are the one who cannot back up your claims, I am still waiting that address



Post your video, before that you are just full of talk,
like those China Expert who is full of talk

As for emei, now there is a meeting of a group of wcnets in boston and Gm Fu is flying in. I let them do their job.

BTW. No one need your approval. Release your video will you?

[zuti car]

Post your video, before that you are just full of talk,
like those China Expert who is full of talk

As for emei, now there is a meeting of a group of wcnets in boston and Gm Fu is flying in. I let them do their job.

BTW. No one need your approval. Release your video will you?

What are you trying to do here ? I have never said I am China expert , that is what you said about me. I have never heard about that Fu guy and i do not believe in grandmasters . I have never said that anyone need my approval for anything , that is what you said that I said, but it is not true . And I am still waiting for the museum address , can you provide that ?

[tc101]

What are you trying to do here ? I have never said I am China expert , that is what you said about me. I have never heard about that Fu guy and i do not believe in grandmasters . I have never said that anyone need my approval for anything , that is what you said that I said, but it is not true . And I am still waiting for the museum address , can you provide that ?

That is one of Hendrik's tactics when he argues.

Hendrik will never give you any evidence. You see his perspective is he is only sharing as he puts it like he is bestowing a gift on us low wcners which we should just be grateful that grandmaster Hendrik has taken the time to give us and he leaves it up to us to find and produce evidence. We are just ungrateful. If Hendrik says the book exists and says what it says we should just accept it as true.

[zuti car]

That is one of Hendrik's tactics when he argues.

Hendrik will never give you any evidence. You see his perspective is he is only sharing as he puts it like he is bestowing a gift on us low wcners which we should just be grateful that grandmaster Hendrik has taken the time to give us and he leaves it up to us to find and produce evidence. We are just ungrateful. If Hendrik says the book exists and says what it says we should just accept it as true.

I admit , I am rude , ungrateful person . I can imagine how hard must be for someone with such high skill level ( 9th if I remember well ) to even talk with lower wc life forms . Seriously , it is amazing how nothing can even shake a little his believes , how he is ready to defend his fairy tale . He cannot perform anything he is saying, he tried and as I have heard , ended up on his ass , he cannot provide any evidence , every time when someone offers to visit him , even in a friendly manner he turns to the police because in all this craziness he is aware that he does not posses any real skill , but he will continue to endlessly to preach about snakes , engines and DNA , and how all people are wrong , beside him of course .

[tc101]

I admit , I am rude , ungrateful person . I can imagine how hard must be for someone with such high skill level ( 9th if I remember well ) to even talk with lower wc life forms . Seriously , it is amazing how nothing can even shake a little his believes , how he is ready to defend his fairy tale . He cannot perform anything he is saying, he tried and as I have heard , ended up on his ass , he cannot provide any evidence , every time when someone offers to visit him , even in a friendly manner he turns to the police because in all this craziness he is aware that he does not posses any real skill , but he will continue to endlessly to preach about snakes , engines and DNA , and how all people are wrong , beside him of course .

He is just an extreme example of the true believer. There are many many in wing chun that think they have all the answers just ask them they know wing chun they understand wing chun it's all about principles and so forth. They can talk tell stories quote theory physics and tell you why any one who does things different from how they think things should work is wrong.

Only none of those guys can or will show that they can really do what they talk about when the pressure is really on and this is really really important because the reason the think as they do is BECAUSE they are not doing it. It's easy to think your wing chun is top notch when you never test yourself.

The only way to change a true believers mind is not through talk. My coach used to say the argument takes place in the ring. To change Hendrik's or any other true believers mind you need to get them in the ring so that they experience and see that things don't work like they think they do. That's the only way. Nothing else will work. The problem is guys like that will do everything they can to avoid that experience since they are afraid to get in the ring. They are physically afraid and afraid of being shown what they really are and what their level really is. That's what the ring does it exposes truth.

[zuti car]

He is just an extreme example of the true believer. There are many many in wing chun that think they have all the answers just ask them they know wing chun they understand wing chun it's all about principles and so forth. They can talk tell stories quote theory physics and tell you why any one who does things different from how they think things should work is wrong.

Only none of those guys can or will show that they can really do what they talk about when the pressure is really on and this is really really important because the reason the think as they do is BECAUSE they are not doing it. It's easy to think your wing chun is top notch when you never test yourself.

The only way to change a true believers mind is not through talk. My coach used to say the argument takes place in the ring. To change Hendrik's or any other true believers mind you need to get them in the ring so that they experience and see that things don't work like they think they do. That's the only way. Nothing else will work. The problem is guys like that will do everything they can to avoid that experience since they are afraid to get in the ring. They are physically afraid and afraid of being shown what they really are and what their level really is. That's what the ring does it exposes truth.

I will not advocate any kind of violence , I 've experienced war in its worst , after that ... well ... Anyway , I do agree with you , knowledge and theory is one thing, applying that is totally different thing. Let's be honest , not all people are fit for ring , physically and more often mentally . Not all people practice for fighting and I do not hold higher regards for fighters than to anyone else , but , if there is no experience , how can you talk about something you do not know anything about . How can teach people to fight if you never fought , like I said to one of my ex friends who invited me to attend his shooting seminar , how can he teach people shoot other people when he never been in that situation , he never spoke to me again ,but that is it .

[Hendrik]

What are you trying to do here ? I have never said I am China expert , that is what you said about me. I have never heard about that Fu guy and i do not believe in grandmasters . I have never said that anyone need my approval for anything , that is what you said that I said, but it is not true . And I am still waiting for the museum address , can you provide that ?


Don't side track , get your video to back your claim.

Otherwise it is same old same old big claim talk

[zuti car]

Don't side track , get your video to back your claim.

Otherwise it is same old same old big claim talk

Address please , and than you will get your video

[Hendrik]

Address please , and than you will get your video

It is not an option.

I careless for your video.

It is your issue of either you back up your claim with your video or you will be look at as baseless claimer. Your choice.

[GlennR]

It is not an option.

I careless for your video.

It is your issue of either you back up your claim with your video or you will be look at as baseless claimer. Your choice.

Rude to a guy wanting a simple answer, you are a grub arent you

Once again, go away and teach someone your stuff, stop jamming it down everyones throats

No one cares

[zuti car]

It is not an option.

I careless for your video.

It is your issue of either you back up your claim with your video or you will be look at as baseless claimer. Your choice.

Why is such a problem for you to give a simple address or full name of the museum. Stop avoiding the answer .

[Minghequan]

t is your issue of either you back up your claim with your video or you will be look at as baseless claimer. Your choice.

You had to go ahead and write that didn't you Hendrik??? Man you really are your own worst enemy!

Can't you see how your own words apply to you?

[zuti car]

You had to go ahead and write that didn't you Hendrik??? Man you really are your own worst enemy!

Can't you see how your own words apply to you?

He is desperately searching a way out without giving any answer , because he doesn't have any . He is nervous now and rude , next step will be retreat from the forum "permanently " like he did so many times before.

[Minghequan]

He is desperately searching a way out without giving any answer , because he doesn't have any . He is nervous now and rude , next step will be retreat from the forum "permanently " like he did so many times before.

Agreed. He has been caught out referencing people he shouldn't have and attributing quotes to them that cannot be verified. Worst still those who he has referenced here regard him as a "mouse", a taker or user.

Yes his posts show him starting in on the edge of panic now, he is becoming belligerent and rude as this is the only way he knows how to react when pressed for answers.

I also join you in predicting he will shy away for a while .... but he will be back. Such is his pathological need for recognition and self-validation.

[LFJ]

I also join you in predicting he will shy away for a while .... but he will be back.

About three posts later with another page full of drivel, amirite? :D

[Daniel Fong]

Today, Grandmaster Ku is 75, and he always travel around Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong and China. Still very active to promote Ban Chung Wck.

Accoding to what Hendrik said, 1980, he was 20., today he should be 54. However, he all the time work with his PC on internet seeking and teaching only, no travelling around.

We know he was over 230 pounds in 2000 as he met Grandmaster Ku in Singapore. However, from his videos and pictures, he looks skinny, 150 pounds today. What's wrong ? Emei effect to make him having a snake body ! He had mentioned to maintain a snake body. Does he get sick in the last 14 years ?

1. Hendrik claim he reach the 3rd level of 9 the emei qi gong.
2. he claim he got the authentic ykwc from his sifu Cho Hung Choi.
3. he claim his formulae 2014 is most advanced.
4. he claim he know emei, mean only he knows the real wck
5. he claim Cho's family no real ykwc, also no emei, not wck, only his from Cho Hung Choi is real.
6. he claim his discovery on 7 bows.

Hendrik should be very superior in his yk wck because he reach certain level of emie 9 level qi gong. He is younger and taller as compared with Grandmaster Ku. Both from ykwc, one from non-Cho family, and one from Cho family. A suggestion is good on their Kong Sau to see, American ykwc good or Cho's family Ban Chung ykwc good. Hendrik,please take a trip to Malaysia to see Grandmaster Ku again and see who is beter

[KPM]

Daniel, why did you feel the need to post this on 3 different threads? I think that fits the definition of "spamming." And are you really trying to get your Grandmaster involved in a fight without his knowledge or consent????

[Hendrik]

Today, Grandmaster Ku is 75, and he always travel around Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong and China. Still very active to promote Ban Chung Wck.

Accoding to what Hendrik said, 1980, he was 20., today he should be 54. However, he all the time work with his PC on internet seeking and teaching only, no travelling around.

We know he was over 230 pounds in 2000 as he met Grandmaster Ku in Singapore. However, from his videos and pictures, he looks skinny, 150 pounds today. What's wrong ? Emei effect to make him having a snake body ! He had mentioned to maintain a snake body. Does he get sick in the last 14 years ?

1. Hendrik claim he reach the 3rd level of 9 the emei qi gong.
2. he claim he got the authentic ykwc from his sifu Cho Hung Choi.
3. he claim his formulae 2014 is most advanced.
4. he claim he know emei, mean only he knows the real wck
5. he claim Cho's family no real ykwc, also no emei, not wck, only his from Cho Hung Choi is real.
6. he claim his discovery on 7 bows.

Hendrik should be very superior in his yk wck because he reach certain level of emie 9 level qi gong. He is younger and taller as compared with Grandmaster Ku. Both from ykwc, one from non-Cho family, and one from Cho family. A suggestion is good on their Kong Sau to see, American ykwc good or Cho's family Ban Chung ykwc good. Hendrik,please take a trip to Malaysia to see Grandmaster Ku again and see who is beter






1.


It is extremely clear that , For your own private agenda,

evidentally,

after your un successfully spreading false accusation on me about my SLT training,
Try to make conflict between Robert with me.
Similar to those who try to set me up with Andreas of Chisim, decade ago.

You are now trying to set Ku up with me, on the expense of Yik kam and Cho family.

Nice try.

But no one is stupid to take your bait.





2.

The information I present to the Wck community will be judge by wcners and Wck historian of the present and future. You don't have to concern on the judgement.


Similar to Apple Ipad and Microsoft tablet technology,

Suggesting Steve Job having a physical boxing match with Bill Gate doesn't proof anything.

The technology and user market is the best judge.

Even thought Steve Job is no longer with us, The technology speak for itself.




3. The question you need to ask yourself and those who hide behind you , is why are you have so much of fear on what I share with the western Wck community for free ?


Your issue is not me, but yourself.
Only you can save yourself .




This is the last post I reply to you. So that I don't waste others wcners time on your private agenda

[Alex Córdoba]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5SVdSR9_vs

A 'masterclass' in a motel. Did he also teach the rough penetration technique?

[JPinAZ]

Yes his posts show him starting in on the edge of panic now, he is becoming belligerent and rude as this is the only way he knows how to react when pressed for answers.

I also join you in predicting he will shy away for a while .... but he will be back. Such is his pathological need for recognition and self-validation.

So true. Clearly he's not handling the stress very well of being caught in so many frying pans at once! All of which he's set out for himself of course.


About three posts later with another page full of drivel, amirite? :D

Haha, exactly! Reminds me of this thread where he did just that:

http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?67492-1850-quot-s-Spam

Where, after spamming many erratic, incoherent & hard-to follow posts (on a thread about his spamming no less!), he says this:


Here I have shared enough.
I leave it to you. I sign off now and will take a long term vacation from KFO.

Blah blah blah

I leave it all to you guys now.

Which lasted what, less than an hour? Which he he then replies with 3 more crazy posts.

The guy says he is free to change his mind. Of course, no problem there. But to do it this often and so quickly, not only is it a fact he can't make up his mind, I think he's really just losing (or lost) his mind! :eek:
If he wasn't so full of himself, I might actually feel sorry for him. Just a little.

[KPM]

So true. Clearly he's not handling the stress very well of being caught in so many frying pans at once! All of which he's set out for himself of course.



.

Are you kidding! He thrives on the attention! Its like I already told Ron, if you want to really get at Hendrik, just ignore him. Negative attention is still attention. Ignoring is much worse! Just look at the hit count on various threads:

Inside the xx Controversy: >700
WCK Jin : > 800
Hendrik & Emei Supporters: > 2,400
Questions for Hendrik: > 2,200

You guys have been using the completely wrong strategy. You give him openings and a forum to continue to post his ideas when you question his ideas. By creating controversy you create interest and more people follow along to see what's up. You play right into his plan! His "agenda" is not to convince you guys of anything. If Hendrik has an "agenda" at all, its simply to get as many people to read about his theories and ideas as possible. And you guys are helping him do that! ;) And you don't see it! I've pointed it out to Ron already, and yet he still goes at Hendrik with a passion.

[zuti car]

Are you kidding! He thrives on the attention! Its like I already told Ron, if you want to really get at Hendrik, just ignore him. Negative attention is still attention. Ignoring is much worse! Just look at the hit count on various threads:

Inside the xx Controversy: >700
WCK Jin : > 800
Hendrik & Emei Supporters: > 2,400
Questions for Hendrik: > 2,200

You guys have been using the completely wrong strategy. You give him openings and a forum to continue to post his ideas when you question his ideas. By creating controversy you create interest and more people follow along to see what's up. You play right into his plan! His "agenda" is not to convince you guys of anything. If Hendrik has an "agenda" at all, its simply to get as many people to read about his theories and ideas as possible. And you guys are helping him do that! ;) And you don't see it! I've pointed it out to Ron already, and yet he still goes at Hendrik with a passion.

Or just find a thing where he is obviously wrong and insist on answer, he will escape eventually

[LFJ]

Are you kidding! He thrives on the attention! Its like I already told Ron, if you want to really get at Hendrik, just ignore him. Negative attention is still attention. Ignoring is much worse! Just look at the hit count on various threads:

Inside the xx Controversy: >700
WCK Jin : > 800
Hendrik & Emei Supporters: > 2,400
Questions for Hendrik: > 2,200

You guys have been using the completely wrong strategy. You give him openings and a forum to continue to post his ideas when you question his ideas. By creating controversy you create interest and more people follow along to see what's up. You play right into his plan! His "agenda" is not to convince you guys of anything. If Hendrik has an "agenda" at all, its simply to get as many people to read about his theories and ideas as possible. And you guys are helping him do that! ;) And you don't see it! I've pointed it out to Ron already, and yet he still goes at Hendrik with a passion.

+1

He can only say so much by himself. Don't fuel the fire and it might just burn out on its own, saying all he can say talking to himself. I would like to see all of his threads and posts completely ignored until he shows any proof of the superior combative value he claims over what everyone else is already doing.