Chi Na in MMA?

[Kellen Bassette]

During last week's Jones/Teixeira fight, Jones attempted a standing arm bar from the clinch, injuring Teixeria's shoulder. It seemed he could have been close to a first round submission with the technique.
Standing locks aren't seen often in MMA, but I believe Jon Jones has been instrumental in bringing so called "unorthodox" striking techniques into the forefront of the sport. It stands to reason he could do the same with unorthodox grappling techniques. I think if he had succeeded in forcing a submission, we would shortly see a steep rise in standing locks being attempted in the cage, but at any rate, how long before he, or someone else is successful in the UFC with standing locks?
Do you think this may be one of the next evolutions in mixed martial arts?

[YouKnowWho]

In order to make your stand up lock work on your opponent, you have to eliminate his legs mobility. An under hook with "leg spring" can not only put your opponent's face on the ground, it can also lock on his shoulder joint.

[pazman]

It's been done before. Standing joint locks are hard to train, thus hard to pull off during a match.

Shinya Aoki pulls of wakigatame. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgIuPpUT4fw)

This technique is in Judo, but isn't trained much and I'm sure it's not legal during a match.

Seeing more of these kinds of techniques would certainly be interesting but I doubt they'll be the focus of fighters any time soon.

[Kellen Bassette]

It's been done before. Standing joint locks are hard to train, thus hard to pull off during a match.

Shinya Aoki pulls of wakigatame. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgIuPpUT4fw)

This technique is in Judo, but isn't trained much and I'm sure it's not legal during a match.

Seeing more of these kinds of techniques would certainly be interesting but I doubt they'll be the focus of fighters any time soon.

Nice clip....I think when a high profile UFC fighter, (like Jones) pulls something unorthodox off, you start to see more people attempting the move...I think it is harder to pull off locks standing than on the ground, but it would be interesting to see another element of clinch fighting get more use and exposure in the cage.

[pazman]

Since I don't really keep up with TV stuff these days, I had to look him and the fight up.

Story about the fight. (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2044599-ufc-172-is-jon-jones-a-dirty-fighter)

Gif of shoulder crank. (http://gfycat.com/HappygoluckyUncomfortableAsiansmallclawedotter)

Cool stuff!

[xinyidizi]

The problem with some locks is that you should act fast and hurt your opponent in order to be effective. If you press and release for a moment no one will tap for a little pain because during the fight you don't feel some injuries if there isn't enough damage however it's a mean thing to do.

[Frost]

No I doubt you wil see an explosion in people doing standing locks in MMA, anymore than the few standing kimuras pulled off in MMA led to an explosion in standing locks, they are low percentage and usually require you to be in a bad position to pull off, case in point jones gave the underhook up in this fight, and the kimura usually require your opponent to be in a body lock on you
It Looks like a standard ****zer but done on the elbow rather than the shoulder in order to break the arm, when I was taught the ****zer we were told that to counter a throw hard into the shoulder, but if you wanted to damage the opponent do it on the elbow
Of course as already pointed out you need to limit his leg movement to really do damage, the flip side of the coin is you have to give up the underhook to get that position, jones can get away with that as he is a D1 wrestler and was against a striker not known for his takedowns, personally id be glad to be given an underhook in exchange for someone trying that on me

And his intentional eye pokes are fecking annoying, i hope someone breaks a limb or blinds him and soon