Defense against a muay thai snapkick???

[SevenStar]

WTF?

http://www.dragonslist.com/homepages/self-defense/snake/snake/roundkick.html

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[Shaolindynasty]

That guys gonna get knocked out one day! "here kick me in the head, don't worry I judged where your kick will snapp". I feel sorry for him when he finds out MT people follow through on those kicks and don't usually snap them


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[qeySuS]

usually? Muay Thai ALWAYS follows through, snaps are in TKD and Kickboxing, i like snapping, but even when you snap your tought not to just tag the guy, go through him, so think like your going to snap at the other side of him.

Plus that bending down thing he's doing, ok i know that TKD and MT are two very different things, but MT guys are usually good kickers so i'm guessing this applies to them as well, but i learned very quickly in TKD that trying to bow under (kinda like ducking a hook in boxing) a roundhouse kick, does not work, it worked wonders when i fought the lower belts, then i got the black belt and he did the roundhouse, i ducked and he just changed it into a hammer kick (hammer or axe kick depends on what you call it) in midair and landed hard on my head/back, havent tried to duck a roundhouse since :)

Free thinkers are dangerous!

[Shaolindynasty]

Well I figured I'd say usually just to be safe :)


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[qeySuS]

hehe yeah they propably know how to snap ;) But i'm not sure you can snap when your kickign with the shin, well you CAN but it'd hardly be a powerful kick.

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[IronFist]

http://www.dragonslist.com/homepages/self-defense/snake/snake/RoundKick2.gif

I didn't know Muay Thai guys made a crane fist with their leading hand while kicking?

This just got added to my "make fun of stupid MA's" list.

Iron

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[LEGEND]

Muy thai has a snapkick??? My god...I didn't know this???

A

[joedoe]

What an idiot. No wonder people like Ralek make fun of kung fu :(

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[Jaguar Wong]

Please oh please someone try this defense against me :) Hey maybe I can convince Tigerstyle to try this crap, er defense. I promise I won't go all out. I'm not the best kicker around, but I've never seen anyone that can drop into that stance before my foot either connects, or passes by (I miss my kicks too you know :)).

As for the snap, I really dig the way Muay Thai executes the roundhouse, but I didn't learn how to do it their way, so my roundhouse is not so much of a follow through, or even a snap. It's more if a "hip twist", like turning the knee over. It's similar to what I've seen in Savate, and Muay Thai, but like I said, I didn't learn either style, so I can't say for sure :). I can say that you get a lot of power with the lead leg this way.

Jaguar Wong
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- actual event from DragonFest 1999

[rubthebuddha]

how much time did the feeder offer the demonstrator so he could duck, grab the apparently snapped leg and punch away at the tender bits?

of course, maybe this guy is just so exceptionally quick that he can get away with it. now, if that's the case, i can't wait until he realizes - while ducking - that most thai kicks are to the legs. :D

-rtb

[Jaguar Wong]

rubthebuddha, LOL
I tried to duck a leg kick once.......once. On the other hand, I actually had someone duck one of my low kicks while sparring (I think it was at the hip/thigh level, but I can't tell, cause he ducked it :eek:). He didn't really drop into an effective stance, he kind of freaked out when he saw the kick wasn't going high, and sort of flopped to the ground. It was easy Pickins after that :) To bad I didn't have any ground fighting skill back then, I could have had a field day instead of just pimp stomping the guy for fun.

Jaguar Wong
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Gene LeBell (in a gravely voice): "If he don't mind, I don't mind."
- actual event from DragonFest 1999

[Xebsball]

That really doesnt look like a thai kick...

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[Kung Lek]

ok, half way through I'd change my direction and stomp his extended leg. yeesh.

to move down and up in the time it takes to throw the kick? no way man!

This guy needs to review his Kung Fu applications.

there are ways to defend against that, but what is being advocated in those shots takes way to much time and I can't see it working.

oh well, ya see all kinds I guess.

peace

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[rogue]

Wow and all it took was three large movements. Must have been one really slow kick.

Also don't tell him that boxers usually throw combos and not lone hooks.

Here's a karate thrust punch, probably from the karate thrust kata. :rolleyes:
http://www.dragonslist.com/homepages/self-defense/snake/snake/ThrustPunch1.gif

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Must be talking about Budokan. ;)

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[joedoe]

Is it just me or does the guy on the left in the picture rogue posted look like he is striking a "Staying Alive" pose? :D

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[rogue]

Bam, nice AB.

Check out entering and bridging.

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[KC Elbows]

The only time I've seen someone succesfully use that stance(pu bu? Not sure the correct name) against a roundhouse, they didn't come back up, but did a monkey roll away from the attacker to avoid the followup. It isn't really a duck under, but duck away and under, and its more a last resort. That coming back in stuff is pretty **** dangerous.

However, the fact remains that I do know a five animals practitioner that can evade that way, but he doesn't come back in like that.

[Wongsifu]

all i can say for those applications is :rolleyes:

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[Shaolindynasty]

If he droped straight down ducking could work but I don't recomend not covering the head while doing it. I suprised, so many coments about the duck and nobody noticed he would have caught the kick.........with his face! :eek:


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[joedoe]

OMG. I think their Sifu is John Travolta! :D

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[wufupaul]

come on guyeesszzz..I bwock it aww daaaaaaaaa time wid my headddd..no braiwn dramage yaaeettt.

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[rogue]

Sifu Denny Terrio.

I think the snake creeps down makes it easier on the guy after he gets hit, less distance to fall.

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The only tactical principle which is not subject to change; it is, “To use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wounds, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."

[SantaClaus]

there are far far better ways to counter that. He's gonna get the **** kicked out of him. The problem is that the other guy can't kick. If I saw that (and I can kick) he would get beaned.


However It would be supprising to see someone attempting it.

[SantaClaus]

he also evades backwards with the stance

[SantaClaus]

This boy knows nothing, he sucks and would get beat up by a boxer or wrestler of 2 weeks. He has no power, no allignment and has probably never sweated while doing kung fu.

[Sharky]

the wing chun part is just as good

http://www.dragonslist.com/homepages/self-defense/snake/WingChun/boxinground.html

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[Kaitain(UK)]

it's a bit like the anti-taiji stuff we saw before

this guy is anti-kung-fu matter - he's already affected me

must.....duck.....kick........ow
must.....let...opponent......knee.....me
must.....wear.....bad......clothes.......

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[scotty1]

They have got the whle of The Art Of War.
Anybody read that?

[Chang Style Novice]

Not only do I have no defense against a muy thai snapkick, I am also defenseless against a Pad Thai snackpack.

I hope dinner is ready soon.

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[GunnedDownAtrocity]

http://www.dragonslist.com/homepages/self-defense/snake/snake/RoundKick2.gif

why wouldnt the guy kicking immedietly stomp down on the other guy's knee if he managed to step back like that.

i'm drunk i admit, but it doesn't make much sense to me.

where's my beer?

[rubthebuddha]

one of these days, you're going to cause one of us to bust a nut we're laughing so hard.

honestly, i can't decide what the more prevalent question is, but i've narrowed it down to two choices:

1. where do you find this cr@p?
and
2. where does this school come up with this cr@p? the feeders look about as agile as the slower-moving cast members from night of the living dead.

-rtb

[SevenStar]

1. people put crap on the net on a regular basis...sad thing is, they may not know it's crap

2. they are most likely making assumption about the style, however, these guys made some ****1ng awful assumptions.

"Just because I joke around sometimes doesn't mean I'm serious about kung-fu.
" - nightair

[Archangel]

No, This has to be a joke site; check out the defense against a Boxing hook. The guy blocks it and then puts him in a vulcan death grip. I love his statement as well:

" That way you can disable them temporarily and show your dominance without hurting them too seriously "

[rubthebuddha]

that's why god invented leather and whips. either deal with the attacker by clocking his a$$ out or tying his arms together, or let him eat you for breakfast. you want to show your dominance? either be the one who doesn't need to fight in the first place, or be the one who walks away knowing that he can eat his ice cream safely because he has all his teeth left.

-rtb

[straight blast]

That guy has never seen a f**king Thai roundkick in his life! And certainly the guy doing the "kick" never has either. I'd be so embarrassed to be photo'd like that. Believe me, you don't need the money at the cost of some self respect.
The sad thing about it is that the student in the picture probably thought those pictures were a good thing to put his name to. Another victim of the Mcdojo phenomenon that has hit the world. :(

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[Khun Kao Charuad]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

I needed a good laugh!

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[Richie]

If that JACKA$$ fights a real Muay Thai boxer, he would get killed. I mean really killed; as in DEAD. These Thai guys rip open heavy bags with kicks. Can you imagine what they wold do to his head?

I'm really tired of that crap!

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[rogue]

Fortunatly muay thai fighters of that calibre, like good karate and kung fu fighters, are few and far between.

Signed,
Rogue, Soke and Senior Grandmaster of Southeast American Brazillian Bagua Combat Chi jitsu Kempo Karate Do and Choral Society.

The only tactical principle which is not subject to change; it is, “To use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wounds, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."

[Archangel]

Every Thai boxer I know can throw a round kick that would shatter that guy into pieces. Even guys with 6 months experience would take that guys head off if he tried that defense.

[ElPietro]

I hafta agree with Archangel...I have recently started Muay Thai and it's not the amount of techniques that are taught that makes the sport devestating but the repetetive full contact striking that makes it effective. You don't spend a lot of time learning new moves but you practice them to death. After six months at the place I train you will have a very devestating roundhouse. Heck after a couple months even...

Oh and just as a cool afterthought...Carlos Newton came into the place I train, to roll with some of our BJJ guys...he used to train here...