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Ralek

10-03-2001, 12:38 AM

The other thread about this was a little ignornant. The actual fight was very clean with no egos.

I talked to the instructor after class. I said that in real fights stances can be dangerous. He said that stances can be used to issue more power in strikes and have greater balance. He agreed to spar full contact this time. (i was very respect full and didn't say "kung fu sucks!!" or anything like that. )

We started off. He was in a stance with his front knee bent and he had his front arm up and his back arm at his stomach. I threw some jabs at him then backed off and he came in after me and walked right into a left hook. He fell down. He did not go unconcious. His legs just fell out and he was dazed. He was fine.

We talked some more and i said that sparring was the best way to develop you skills. He agreed but said that sparring could also develop bad habbits of tagging each other.

There was no egos and just pure sparring. It was a good experience for both of us.

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

RedDragon

10-03-2001, 12:42 AM

well it looks like ralek is tryin to be nice so he doesnt get banned...........heh heh heh, dont think itll work though, cut the crap ralek

"United We Stand, Divided We Fall."

Kung Lek

10-03-2001, 12:43 AM

bwahahahahahaha!

Kung Lek

TatewakiKuno

10-03-2001, 12:46 AM

why do i find it hard to believe that a master of anything would walk into a move as readable as a hook. Also why do i find it hard to believe that he went down and stayed down with it.

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Amitabha!!

Ralek

10-03-2001, 12:59 AM

Kaga. I never said he was a master. I would say Shaolin tiger was much more skilled at fighting.

Why did he stay down? Well he was "almost knocked out". Have you ever seen boxing where the guy gets hits, falls, tries to stand up but just is so dazed he falls back down again?

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

Ralek

10-03-2001, 01:01 AM

Kaga. A left hook can be very sneaky especially when they are closing the distance.

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

TatewakiKuno

10-03-2001, 01:30 AM

he either wasn't very good or your full of ****

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Amitabha!!

joedoe

10-03-2001, 01:37 AM

Maybe both?

Come on Ralek, you tried this one on before. You really are slipping in your trolling ability. You been hanging out with Tabitha or something?

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You're fu(king up my chi

Ralek

10-03-2001, 01:40 AM

Kaga. take a chill pill. It was just a sparring match. Nothing to lose your composure over.

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

TatewakiKuno

10-03-2001, 01:42 AM

im fine, rather quite calm actually. I'm just stating what the reality of the situation is.

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Amitabha!!

Ralek

10-03-2001, 01:45 AM

I havn't did enough to rightfully say kung fu sucks.

I have a fight with a wing chun student coming up. Vertical Fist. We are arranging the fight in E-mail. I might get beat up this time. If i get beat up then i'll post about it and talk about how i got KO'd.

It's a combination of the person, style, and how much hard contact sparring they do.

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

TatewakiKuno

10-03-2001, 01:48 AM

done enough.... not did enough

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Amitabha!!

Ralek

10-03-2001, 01:51 AM

When i fought shaolin tiger he was a real challenge. He does san shou. I couldn't land any good shots. I'd say we did about 13 minutes of hard contact sparring. I was not able to hurt him. He landed some really hard roudnhouses on my leg. I absorbed a roundhouse with my arm and his shoe cut me.

He was not able to hurt me either and i managed to hit his mouth and he was spitting out blood every once and a while.

None of us were hurt other than minor cuts from punches and kicks. He did really good. I thought i was going to wipe the floor with him but he was more skilled than i thought.

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

joedoe

10-03-2001, 01:56 AM

What have you done with the real Ralek?

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You're fu(king up my chi

Ralek

10-03-2001, 02:00 AM

But................. although shaolin tiger was better at kicking than me and can punch a lot harder............

............

.......he was running out of gas.

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

joedoe

10-03-2001, 02:02 AM

Whereas you on the other hand were really full of gas ....

And still are :D

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You're fu(king up my chi

CanadianBadAss

10-03-2001, 02:04 AM

So tai chi is ok? Thanks for testing tai chi out for us ralek. I'm sure this will make it easyier for the tai chi people to sleep at night.

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Fish of Fury

10-03-2001, 02:08 AM

Ralek
there's medication for schizophrenia i believe.

just an FYI

__________________________________________________ _________________________ "I'm just trying to lull you into a genuine sense of security!"

Ralek

10-03-2001, 02:12 AM

I will be available to sign autographs on Friday Oct.3 at Baker Park in Frederick, MD between the hours of 11:00AM- 12:00 noon

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

joedoe

10-03-2001, 02:13 AM

Will you be full of gas then? :D

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CanadianBadAss

10-03-2001, 02:49 AM

Raleks trolls might not be what they used to be, but his trolls are still better then your jokes...

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joedoe

10-03-2001, 02:51 AM

Gee that hurts. :)

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You're fu(king up my chi

SevenStar

10-03-2001, 03:57 AM

Ralek is full of BS

"You ain't got enough calcium to have a bone to pick wit me,
like a Gracie, I'll choke a ***** out wit his own gi" - Rass Kass

Nexus

10-03-2001, 04:00 AM

I think tai chi is ok also so I must agree with Ralek. :) Although I can't verify if his story is true or if the teacher he sparred with was doing tai chi, I can agree that tai chi is definetely ok!

- Nexus

Martial Joe

10-03-2001, 04:16 AM

Sevenstar is right...

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Martial Joe

10-03-2001, 04:26 AM

If you guys have not noticed,Relak has just changed the subject of his last post and made it not as bad so it does not get locked like his last one...

Overall it means the same thing...

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vertical fist

10-03-2001, 04:34 AM

I'm glad you think Tai Chi is ok. Tai Chi and Wing Chun share many Yin principles; recieving energy, soft energy, I'll explain and show more later in person.

"Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must do."

Martial Joe

10-03-2001, 04:55 AM

Make sure you punch him in the face pretty hard...

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GunnedDownAtrocity

10-03-2001, 05:18 AM

i laughed abandit.

. . . . though i laugh hysterically almost all the time so im not sure if it counts.

where's my beer?

Ralek

10-03-2001, 02:04 PM

Vertical Fist. He was really good at recieving energy. The was able to last about 20 seconds.

I will check my email again now.

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

toddbringewatt

10-03-2001, 02:18 PM

Ralek,

You deserve to be commended for the increased level of respect and dignity in your posts.

Also, I loved the autograph joke. That was ****in& funny!

My opinion of you has changed for the better. I actually honestly like you now. Well done, Ralek!

To everyone,

Take it easy on the guy. Whatever beef you may have with Ralek, don't nag an improvement. :)

"Bruce Leroy. That's who!"

Ralek

10-03-2001, 02:36 PM

My fight with Vertical fist is going to be on Friday, Oct. 19 !!!!!!!

Vertical fist is a wing chun fighter who does wing chun. I think i can take him. I've been wanting to see what wing chun can do as i've heard it spoken very highly of on kung fu forum.

So far my record for challenge matches is 1-0-1

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

ShaolinTiger00

10-03-2001, 06:46 PM

But... although shaolin tiger was better at kicking than me and can punch a lot harder....

- ;) good thing I was holding back huh big guy..

Josh, I believe you. (I think... at least the story sounds believable)

Unfortunately there are a lot of "new age" tai chi teachers out there who can do very elementary taiji and alot of empty breathing and feel like they understand tai chi and will be able to defend themselves and even teach others. Throw a simple hook to there pathetic defense and they would crumble (my yoga master never taught me that!). sad but true. In my opinion its always best to find a taiji teacher who is also knowledgable about kungfu and qigong. this would usually indicate a thourough knowledge of external/internal.

Back to work.....

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Ford Prefect

10-03-2001, 07:01 PM

I thought this post was going to look like -

Subject: Tai Chi is ok

Body: ...for me to poop on!

Ralek, you disappoint me.

Polaris

10-03-2001, 07:56 PM

Hey Shaolintiger, is that image from a T-shirt? I remember in some Christmas edition of Inside Kung-fu they were showing some that looked very much like that, but they only showed the boxing, aikido, and JKD ones. Is there a website for those?

Ryu

10-03-2001, 08:02 PM

Ralek has a fight huh? Heh heh...

Ralek, are you planning to punch from mount or knee on stomach? Which do you think has more options?

Ryu

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Kung Lek

10-03-2001, 08:04 PM

That image in ST00's sig is from superaction.com I think.

Chum Choy, cannon fist.
peace

Kung Lek

Jaguar Wong

10-03-2001, 08:06 PM

Polaris,
Superaction.com - 108 Collection (http://www.superaction.com)

Jaguar Wong

Nexus

10-03-2001, 08:07 PM

Martial arts Mart is now selling:

Custom Designed "I beat up Ralek and all I got was a blood stained t-shirt" in sizes: S, M, L, XL

$ 14.95 + S&H - 3 day delivery via FedEx.
http://www.members.home.net/kunglek/Ralek.jpg

[This message was edited by Kung Lek on 10-04-01 at 11:21 AM.]

[This message was edited by Kung Lek on 10-04-01 at 11:22 AM.]

Kung Lek

10-03-2001, 08:07 PM

yeah it is...
http://www.superaction.com/images/108-tournament/kung-fu2.gif

Nexus, that is really funny, you should suggest it to Gene. hahahahahaha.

peace

Kung Lek

Snake

10-03-2001, 08:13 PM

Geez, I don't get a chance to read the forum for a couple of days and Ralek the Stepford child show ups. What the hell is up with this? On, and V Fist, kick his @$$ for all of us please.

Snake
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants." -Thomas Jefferson

Ryu

10-03-2001, 08:22 PM

Has it ever occured to anybody that Ralek actually might know more about BJJ and training than he lets on? And simply acts like he doesn't know what he's talking about?

I'd be careful simply walking into a fight with someone thinking you're gonna beat them up. Even though I love my KF bros here on this forum, I AM a grappler, and I have done BJJ and a lot of judo.
It's a very surprisingly effective art if you've not tangled with one before.
I'm not saying WC or Kung Fu will never stand a chance, but I am saying you have to really train right in order to fight a good grappler...and that means spending lots of time doing what they do..with them.

:D
I'm not defending Ralek! Don't all kill me at once!

....what's that song?
"I'm just a soul whose intentions are good, oh Lord please don't let me be misunderstood!"

Ryu

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"One who takes pride in shallow knowledge or understanding is like a monkey who delights in adorning itself with garbage."

Stranger

10-03-2001, 08:27 PM

That song is by THE ANIMALS (also famous for "The House of the Rising Sun"). They were cool.

I don't get mad.
I get stabby.

Knifefighter

10-03-2001, 08:31 PM

Ryu-
Shush...

ShaolinTiger00

10-03-2001, 08:33 PM

images are from the 108 collection. as stated. I have several of the shirts. love 'em

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http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1758022&a=13553065&p=54614520

btw, I need to get one of those "I beat Ralek Bloody" t-shirts.. after all I did.. :D

Ryu, I'm pretty sure that Ralek does train. my friend says that there are 2 younger students in his class @ Yamasaki who are similar in height and weight to Josh.

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DrunkenMonkey

10-03-2001, 09:57 PM

leading hand up and following hand down? Uhh, ok. Thats kind of weird, what foot was foward? That is really ackward, especially when you are advancing. It puts the body in an odd position... Is that just a tai chi thing or what?

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Ralek

10-03-2001, 10:15 PM

Shaolin Tiger! I DO NO TRAIN AT YAMASAKI'S. YOU MUST BE MISTAKEN. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE ME.

I really don't train. I don't do BJJ. I just learn by watching NHB tapes and Gracie CD-ROM.

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

Ralek

10-03-2001, 10:18 PM

Drunken Monkey. He was just standing with his left foot forward and slightly bent. His back leg was bent to but more wieght on the left leg. His front arm was not up very high. His back arm was at his stomach. He got out of the stance as he came in after me. Then the fight was over.

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

Nexus

10-03-2001, 10:48 PM

He obviously sent a long distanced, internal chi attack at you, which is slowly rupturing your internal organs. I would be surprised if you are still alive to post on this forum a year from now.

You are lucky he let you walk out of there with a year left to live.

- Nexus

12345

10-03-2001, 10:58 PM

Isn't Ralek's next fight against a novice student of Randy Williams. I wonder what the response will be if Ralek claims victory and trashes Randy Williams wing chun in his report of the fight? All pure speculation of course!

Ralek

10-03-2001, 11:30 PM

I wasn't aware who Vertical Fists instructor was. I have never even heard of Randy Williams. But i would like to fight Randy williams.

How do i get a fight with him

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

Ralek

10-03-2001, 11:36 PM

12345. Are you by any chance Randy Williams?
Kind of funny how your starting to make excuses for Vertical fist before the fight has even started.

"he's just a novice student"

Well i'm a novice too. I'm really not that good. Your average amatuer boxer would destroy me.

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

JWTAYLOR

10-03-2001, 11:37 PM

Well, first, you would actually have to leave your home. So it looks like the fiht is right out.

JWT

If you pr!ck us, do we not bleed? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that the villany you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction. MOV

LEGEND

10-04-2001, 12:14 AM

Randy Williams is a MODERNIZE WING CHUN guy who trained with alot of people...and he was also a former body guard to steven seagal. He does crosstrain...unknown about his grappling ability.

A

Ralek

10-04-2001, 12:19 AM

Holy sheot!!! So i'm fighting the student of a FAMOUS martial artist!

If i beat up Randy Williams and his student then i'll be famous!!!! Then i'll be hired as Steven Segal's body guard.

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

Kung Lek

10-04-2001, 03:01 AM

oh I dunno Ralek, these days, that's a lot of body to guard! hahahaha :D

I like steves older movies, but lately, is he hindenburging or is it my eyes getting flatter?

c'mon ralek, jar loose with a pic of yourself for real and quit hiding. there's nothing to be ashamed, the world is chock full of idiots! You'll fit right in :D

peas

Kung Lek

HuangKaiVun

10-04-2001, 01:14 PM

Ralek is lucky that he doesn't have the guts nor transportation to fight ME.

If he challenged me like that, I'd probably decline not out of fear, but because I'd hurt him so bad he'd end up in the hospital - and me in court.

The first thing I'd do on a challenger is call the police. The second thing I'd do is mow him down if he attacked anyway.

Better to be accused of "cowardice" than to incur the massive hospital and legal fees from cracking Ralek's head open.

Ralek

10-04-2001, 01:48 PM

Kung Lek. How do i post pictures? Please tell me step by step what to do and what buttons to push.

Vertical Fist. Sifu Wayne Jackson? Sure. I'll fight him. But Williamsport is a really long distance away from me. But i could go there. So your just a begginer? So am I. But i take on advanced people who are former opponenets of world champions like Marvin Perry. So that means I'll fight Wayne Jackson!!! Sure. But i still want to fight you too.

HuangKaiVun. So you call the police when faced with a challenge match? Have you ever considered just saying "no" to the challenge? If someone says no i don't fight them. If you went for the telephone i would take the phone from you and shove it down your throat.

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

SanShou Guru

10-04-2001, 03:24 PM

Marvin is not a World Champion...yet. Probably in January he will be.

"Information is power"

Ralek

10-04-2001, 05:04 PM

Here is a list of people i have fought or plan on fighting in the future:

1.Shaolin Tiger- I am getting ready for the violent rematch. He's a former opponent of Marvin Perry in san shou.

2.Marvin Perry- Champion in san shou, muy thai, kickboxing. He has fought shaolin tiger before in san shou. I want to fight him.

3.Vertical Fist- I havn't met him yet. He's a wing chun person. We are setting up our fight in E-mail.

4. Tai chi instructor- no fighting ability but he has a good personality.

5. Wayne Jackson- he is vertical fist's instructor.

6. Randy Williams- he is wayne jacksons instructor and former body guard of steven segal.

7. Emin Bostepe- This is the big one. My ultimate goal is to find Emin Bostepe and challenge him. Maybe at a seminar or something. I don't think he can fight very well. Although i don't think he's any where near the skill of Marvin Perry he has the highest reputation. I will shatter him.

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

Tainan Mantis

10-04-2001, 05:32 PM

When you sparred the Taiji man were you two wearing gloves and/or headgear?

Same question for the other folks you've sparred.

I ask this question because I notice that I only get dizzy when there is padding between me and the fist. No padding and I don't get dizzy, but cuts around the eyes make it difficult to continue as blood gets in the eyes.

Also, for other people who have gone full contact what is your opinion?

Kung Lek

10-04-2001, 05:33 PM

ralek in your profile, where it says picture, place a website url where your picture lives.

define the root of the site, the folder the image is in and the name of the image.

that's it your pic will show in your profile.
no porn, or it gets removed.

we all want to see who the antagonistic ralek/rolls is :D

Kung Lek

LEGEND

10-04-2001, 05:39 PM

I've trained with boxing gloves and headgear...keep in mind...u're not out there to destroy your partner...your goal is to hit and tag without absorbing to much punishment...many of these training matches end up being a tough man contest! i have sparred with the vale tudo gloves...lightly...we go light...cuts and abrasions heal but u may get scarring so don't do this too often! The older u get the scars will show more.

A

old jong

10-04-2001, 05:44 PM

I think I found one of his pictures Kung Lek.
http://www.uglypeople.nl/pics/man/big/oh****.jpg
His mother should appologise to the world! :eek:

Les paroles s'envolent.
Les écrits restent!...

Ralek

10-04-2001, 05:48 PM

Tainan Mantis. No. We weared no protected gear at all. Same thing in my fight with Shaolin tiger. No gloves, or gear of any kind.

Kung Lek. How to i get my picture on the a website? My pictures are living on a piece of paper. Not web sites. What do i do to get it on the web site?

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

Ryu

10-04-2001, 06:15 PM

Ralek you never answered my question on which position you prefer for striking, mount or knee on stomach.
Which one do you prefer?

I'm not setting you up or anything :)

I personally like them both, but I do think knee on stomach gives you the better ability to be mobile, and return to your feet easier if the situation calls for it.

Ryu

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Martial Joe

10-04-2001, 08:56 PM

If Virtical Fist were to lose this fight...dont think it is wing chuns fault...

Relak,why dont you go around looking to fight an experienced wing chun sifu?
Besides,its just a dance right...

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Kung Lek

10-04-2001, 09:09 PM

send me the picture in a .jpg or .gif or .png format and I'll get it on the net.

take the paper photo to someone who has a scanner or to a photography shop. have it digitized into one of the above formats and e-mail the digitized photo to me through the address in my profile.

make sure that the file size is reasonably small to conserve bandwidth. anything over 900k is out of the question as it will take to long for most slower systems.

a picture that is under 100k is ok for most internet users.

peace

Kung Lek

Ralek

10-04-2001, 09:23 PM

Sorry. Ryu. I was actually plannign on answering that question but there was so much other stuff i was posting about that i forgot.

For punching them? I would say spider guard is the best position. When they are in your spider guard they can't hold you down to stop the onslaught of punches.

Martial Joe. I have fought advanced people. I challenged someone who has foughten Marvin Perry at an event. Plus i plan on fighting Vertical Fists instructor who is supposedly advanced and steven segals bodyguard and all that. Is Emin Bostepe considered advaced. I also listed Marvin Perry as people i will fight. Don't you consider any of those people on my list advanced?

Kung lek. I don't have a scanner. So i have to go to a photography place? Will Wal-Mart work? They have a film developing place.

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

Jaguar Wong

10-04-2001, 09:39 PM

Please show me how to punch someone when you have them in a spider guard. Isn't the spider guard where you're using your feet to control their arms (feet on biceps?) while you're grabbing their wrists, or the sleeves of their gi?

Am I incorrect in thinking this?

Ryu:
one of the things I would like to learn is how to get to the knee on stomach position more efficiently. I have never been able to get there on purpose ;)

I've also been practicing striking from inside someone's closed or open guard (spider guard? :p)

Jaguar Wong

RENEGADE_MONK

10-04-2001, 09:46 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>We weared no protected gear at all[/quote]

I never weared any either :D

Ralek

10-04-2001, 09:48 PM

Maybe not the spider guard then. I'd say mount would be the best position becuase they can't get away.

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

Jaguar Wong

10-04-2001, 09:53 PM

question:
Do you know how to do a spider guard? How about the knee on stomach? Do you know the finer points about maintaing the mount position?

I'm just curious, because now I'm convinced that you actually only play video games to train. I thought you had some functioning BJJ knowledge.

Note: not to accuse you of anything, I'm just shocked that you were telling the truth about your actual skill level.

Jaguar Wong

Ralek

10-04-2001, 10:04 PM

Of course i know what spider guard is!!! It's when you have your legs on their biceps and you are holding their wrists.

Knee-on-stomach is when your knee is on their stomach and you can punch them.

To maintain mounted position you have to keep your balance and make sure they don't bridge you off.

Yes. You are correct that i do video games and video tapes. I do have a knowledge of BJJ though. I have the Gracie CD-ROM and several NHB tapes.

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

Snake

10-04-2001, 10:10 PM

Ralek lost his life long battle with a Dictionary. From the looks of things, it was a blood spilling fight! ;)

Snake
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants." -Thomas Jefferson

Jaguar Wong

10-04-2001, 10:11 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Of course i know what spider guard is!!! It's when you have your legs on their biceps and you are holding their wrists.

Knee-on-stomach is when your knee is on their stomach and you can punch them.

To maintain mounted position you have to keep your balance and make sure they don't bridge you off.
[/quote]

Wow, such detail, and display of technical knowledge. I'll never question you again. Maybe I should rephrase my question. I didn't mean do you know of the moves, I mean, can and have you executed the moves in a "live" environment, or are you just living off of the accomplishments of others?

Before you start firing back with your anger, and challenge issuing babble (I can't make it within 2 miles of your house during the full moon, when Mars and Jupiter are aligned with the Earth during the season finale of Friends before CSI comes on CBS to chant the secret phrase in order to accept your challenge.) I'm just asking a question, and I am in no way attempting to belittle your accomplishments.

Jaguar Wong

Ralek

10-04-2001, 10:23 PM

Jaguar Wong. I don't train. I just do video games. I said i have an understanding of BJJ. I don't claim to be a BJJ student or anythign. It's not like a train at Yamasaki's place or anything. I just happen to look like that guy who trains at Yamasaki's. If i trained at a real BJJ school like Yamasaki's i would know that spider guard is not a punchign position.

I don't know how to describe the techniques in detail. I just have a general idea of them. I know the mount and guard postions very well and I know how to pass the guard. Anything that is on the Gracie CD-ROM i know.

The elbow-knee escape is a hidden technique on the Gracie CD-ROM. There is no video for it. However hidden on one of the 360 degree viewer blocks is the ELBOW KNEE ESCAPE with 3D pictures from 360 degrees. And described in detail. I KNOW the elbow knee escape very well. I actually used it in my fight with shaolin tiger. I used the seceret gracie Technique that i almost never knew exsisted on the CD-ROM.

Josh "I respect all styles" Fernando

jun_erh

10-04-2001, 10:26 PM

What is the tale of the tape here. I don't need bicep size and stuff, but how about stats a la UFC like age height weight style, etc. If I can find ou this much, I would also be into gambling on the results, say, for martialartsmart merchandise? :cool:

Martial Joe

10-04-2001, 11:33 PM

Relak,I missed what you said.
So that was a mistake...

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Ryu

10-05-2001, 12:18 AM

You are telling me you think "spider guard" is the best position to punch from?????

You'd rather be on your back to punch than on top in the mount or knee on stomach?
Ah but you also said you changed your mind and you think mount is better. :)

And then you said this... "If i trained at a real BJJ school like Yamasaki's i would know that spider guard is not a punchign position. "

I think you do know this. :)
This phrase leads me to believe you're trying to get the kung fu guys on here to believe you know nothing about BJJ. I think you actually might train there Ralek, and you are putting on a "show".

Why would you say "if I trained I would know spider guard is not a punching position"

This means that you indeed DO KNOW spider guard is not a real punching position don't ya think?
;) I dunno Ralek...I'm starting not to believe this "I'm dumb and only do video games" stuff....
.........I dunno.

Jaguar,
Getting to knee on stomach actually takes some skill and practice. You can get there from some guard pass techniques, and also I have found that while standing and clinching, if you slam someone with Ushiro goshi you can come down fairly easily onto knee on stomach. Getting there immediately after a takedown is a great strategy. Make sure to keep your base and start those punches and headbutts.
One way of getting to knee on stomach (though hard to pull off without some practice) is when you are holding someone in mount. When you mount someone, and you want to switch to knee on stomach, raise your shin up and place it ontop of the opponent's waist. Switch your weight a little, and use your other leg to brace against the ground and come up into the knee on stomach position. Let me see if I can find you a pic of it to explain it better. :)

Ryu

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ShaolinTiger00

10-05-2001, 12:25 AM

"I just happen to look like that guy who trains at Yamasaki's."

What are the odds of a 6'-6" 200 lb. 19 yr old white male in the Central Maryland area who loves BJJ??? I'd put money on those odds!

I'll make a call to my friend. He will find out for sure. Then he will brutalize him at every available class. :D Its good to know people!

Felipe Bido

10-05-2001, 12:31 AM

Oh...now everything is clear... ;) Make those calls, ST

I think Ralek can be hit harder now, huh?

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Jaguar Wong

10-05-2001, 12:47 AM

Cool, thanks Ryu. I can picture what you're describing. the only problem is that my takedown skills are very weak. In the grappling sense anyway. I've got a pretty good scissor leg, but I can't do anything after that, other than get back up, and hope the other guy is slower to his feet. :)

When I pass the guard, I either work for side mount, or back out to get back on my feet (which I prefer in a "self-defense" type of strategy, but I practice both). I don't do much else, because of my limited time and partners. I'll start working for that knee on stomach more often now, though.

One of the things that I've been working really hard on is sort of a fading hook (I learned a similar technique in praying mantis with a straight jab, but the lead hand hook has been working much better). I shuffle back (only once, becuase more than that, and I'm on my heels eating punches) and if they follow, I off angle away from them, and fire a quick lead hand hook that's been landing very solid and cleanly. I've noticed that this really sets them up for me to close in for clinching, or takedowns, but alas, I'm weak in that area, so I move into my own doom :)

Anyway, I've also been working harder on the clinch, and I've got some tripping style takedowns that I've been unable to pull off, but I did use some good chin na style takedowns when they failed. I even tapped one of the guys with one.

This should all be discussed in another thread, though, huh? :)

Jaguar Wong

Ralek

10-05-2001, 04:16 AM

........................

Ryu

10-05-2001, 05:06 AM

Cat got your tongue, Ralek?

;)

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Snake

10-05-2001, 05:43 AM

Maybe he had a blood spilling battle with a Theasaurus too! ;)

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Daniel Madar

10-05-2001, 06:15 AM

I wish I lived near Josh. As a tai chi stylist in SF, I'm having a devil of a time finding MMA people to spar with. I have one guy I'm meeting with on sunday, and he's pretty hardcore, so I'll let everyone know if it goes through. so far he's backed out of 4 meetings. I think he's kind of freaked out by a tai chi guy who wants to fight.

Barry bonds just hit #72 btw

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