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pazman
10-01-2014, 06:39 PM
Gene mentioned Pan Gen (盘根) in this thread (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?56233-What-forms-are-in-your-Shaolin-regimen-now/page6). I'm not sure if it is a prominent or important among Shaolin lineages, as I've only learned the first two roads under the supervision of Wu Nanfang, and it's an introductory exercise in the same way "wu bu quan" is introductory to many modern wushu schools.

I've seen four roads of Pan Gen and I've been told there's a fifth. I have no idea how important the roads besides the first two are. I'm fairly satisfied with keeping these in my daily practice, but I'm curious to know what lineages/traditions they are associated with. Any Shaolin expects want to chime in?

Here are some clips of the first road:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDk2NTc5OTI=.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EufSatQuiNc

rett2
10-02-2014, 12:07 PM
Small bit of Pangen (er lu) buried in this longer clip (about 1:50-1:56).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VovHhqQobH4

rett2
10-02-2014, 12:25 PM
Long Pangen (yilu) instruction section starting about 8:07 here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLWbPrO5Jis

bawang
10-02-2014, 12:41 PM
ancient tree curling roots refers to story of a demon tree that curls out its roots around peoples legs. hence the emphasis of curling and uprooting legs in chanwuyi

Matthew
10-03-2014, 10:14 AM
Gene mentioned Pan Gen (盘根) in this thread (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?56233-What-forms-are-in-your-Shaolin-regimen-now/page6). I'm not sure if it is a prominent or important among Shaolin lineages, as I've only learned the first two roads under the supervision of Wu Nanfang, and it's an introductory exercise in the same way "wu bu quan" is introductory to many modern wushu schools.

I've seen four roads of Pan Gen and I've been told there's a fifth. I have no idea how important the roads besides the first two are. I'm fairly satisfied with keeping these in my daily practice, but I'm curious to know what lineages/traditions they are associated with. Any Shaolin expects want to chime in?

Here are some clips of the first road:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDk2NTc5OTI=.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EufSatQuiNc

It might also be worth mentioning these foundational movement practices assist in developing/understanding the relation between the roots of the "Three Sections" (SanJie), which is the basis for any coordinated movement. (each of the three sections of the body has a root part)

An excerpt from (I believe it's actually an adaptation from Agnes Chan's book, but maybe from one of De Jians other students):


The study of Xin Yi Ba includes many aspects of different theories and practical training, such as: the three sections (Ming San Jie), the four sensations (Qi Si Shao), guarding the five elements (Bi Wu Xing), The Three Voids -- as well as an understanding of the six combinations (Liu He).

Ming San Jie明三节 – the understanding of the three sections

The body has three main sections: hands to shoulders (upper section), chest to waist (middle section) and hips to feet (root section).

Each main section consists of three other sections:
Upper section: hands (upper), elbows (middle) and shoulders (root).
Middle section: chest (upper), heart (middle) and lower abdomen (root).
Root section: feet (upper), knees (middle) and hips (root).

The relationship between the three sections has its own unique function. For example, when a movement is performed from one of the three sections, the other two sections must be in harmony in order to generate the power from the movement performed. This means any movements must be supported by the power generated from the whole body. This is explains how important it is for practitioners to understand the San Jie.
Quote culled from: http://shaolinxinyi.blogspot.com/2009/04/xin-yi-ba.html

(Note Xinyiba here is not a reference to a particular TaoLu/form)

Matthew
10-03-2014, 10:19 AM
Continuation:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oEHlg6yJGQ

(Only 1 video allowed per post, so I have to post another for second part)

Matthew
10-03-2014, 10:20 AM
Continuation:

(Only 1 video allowed per post, so I have to post another for second part)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDT-Z0n69FI

GeneChing
10-03-2014, 10:49 AM
I just learned this form from Shi Yantuo (http://www.shaolintradition.com/). It was the first time I was exposed to it, so I don't really know much about it beyond the movements. I'm not sure how many roads I have but will review the vids later to figure that out. I really like it and it has become part of my daily regimen, right after my baduanjin. It's very Taiji-like, and I've been meaning to get more internal.

RenDaHai
10-05-2014, 06:31 AM
I have been to a lot of places in SongShan and I have only seen this particular form 'PanGen' in the ChanWuYi/WuGuLun clan. I was surprised to hear Gene mention it, I didn't realise it was practiced outside those schools.

The name GuShuPanGen (An ancient tree with twisted roots) is used a lot within forms and theory, its a nice image.

Would be interesting to see if Genes form is the same or not.

Matthew
10-05-2014, 12:22 PM
I have been to a lot of places in SongShan and I have only seen this particular form 'PanGen' in the ChanWuYi/WuGuLun clan. I was surprised to hear Gene mention it, I didn't realise it was practiced outside those schools.

The name GuShuPanGen (An ancient tree with twisted roots) is used a lot within forms and theory, its a nice image.

Would be interesting to see if Genes form is the same or not.

It's possible Master Wu even just made it up from foundational movements to aid in foundational practice repetition.

A student of Master De Jian who left and started his own school didn't even list it at all on the list of practices, gongs, forms, etc. so it's not clear that even Master Xing Xing (let alone Wu Shan Lin) taught it as a form.

List below from one of Master De Jians students who left to another temple and started his own school at another temple:

FOUNDATION LEVEL
Shaolin Basics (Ji ben gong)
Stance training (Zhuang gong)
House stance
Bow and arrow stance
Cat stance
Unicom stance
Pubu stance
Han ji bu
Stepping methods (Bu fa)
Triangle steps (San jiao bu)
Forward and Backward steps (Jin tui bu)
Rat step (Dian bu)
Single attacking movements (Gongfa)
Lian huan zhang
Gong bu chong quan
Tiao da
Bo da
Pubu jia da
Tao lu (Traditional forms)
Xiao hong quan

INTERMEDIATE LEVEL
Stance training(Zhuang gong)
Zuo you yi zhong
San bu hua yi
Guo bu
Che bu
Single attacking movements(Gong fa)
Ding zhou
You zhang
Ya shou
Bai hu xi lian
Shuang za quan
Liao shou
Shuang tui shan
La gong shi
Bai shi
Tao lu (Traditional forms)
Da hong quan
Wu xin ba fa
Xiao tong bi
Tong chun quan
Weapon forms
Qi mei gun
Lian huan dao
Bu fa (stepping skills)
Wu bu gui yi
Que bu
Jian bu
Shaolin mei hua zhuang

ADVANCED LEVEL
Internal Training
Xu zhuang
San xin tiao xi fa
Yi jin jing
Ba duan jing
Tu na dao yin
Shaolin Xinyi ba

rett2
10-05-2014, 12:51 PM
Details of how they do yilu (at least) have changed over the last 7 years or so. You can see an earlier version here

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzkwMTAxMTI=.html

Tainan Mantis
10-11-2014, 08:22 AM
An image of Withered Tree Entwines Roots from the Qing. This appears in Shaolin Luohan Short Strikes. It is also a part of the training of Mantis Kung Fu


Withered Tree Entwines its Roots
First Round; Rhinoceros gazes at the moon push both hands

Rhinoceros gazes at the moon push both hands.
Turn your body twist your waist step in front of your chest.
With a stealing step and wrapping hook lean against your knee.
Pull in your elbows when entering and exiting.
Turning requires the strength of both legs.
Raise the qi and collect the breath in your mouth.

枯樹盤根式
第一回犀牛望月推雙掌
犀牛望月推雙手,
翻身扭腰胸前走,
偷步纏勾偏單膝,
一出一入積雙肘,
還轉須用兩腿力,
提气呼吸收在口。

Tainan Mantis
10-30-2014, 08:16 AM
It also appears in Ming era martial book Wu Bian as an attack of the legs using the meteor hammer.

下使枯樹盤根。
When attacking the bottom use withered tree intwines the roots.

rett2
10-31-2014, 04:06 AM
It also appears in Ming era martial book Wu Bian as an attack of the legs using the meteor hammer.

下使枯樹盤根。
When attacking the bottom use withered tree intwines the roots.

I'm not sure exactly how this relates, but the application for the final move of Pan Gen Er Lu as I've been shown it involves grabbing an opponent's leg near the ankle and uprooting him.

Tainan Mantis
10-31-2014, 05:38 AM
I'm not sure exactly how this relates, but the application for the final move of Pan Gen Er Lu as I've been shown it involves grabbing an opponent's leg near the ankle and uprooting him.

Sounds like the name fits, where is that?

rett2
10-21-2016, 07:57 AM
Sounds like the name fits, where is that?

Sorry for the slight delay answering. I lost track of this thread somehow.

You can see that movement in a bit stylised form in the video I linked to earlier in the thread. 10-02-2014, 12:07 PM 1:52-1:54. HM was at WNF's school a few times in the late 2000s and learned it there.

rett2
01-18-2018, 12:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xdYRoynvsA


释恒義 · Shi Heng Yi practicing 盤根 · Pan Gen in the Shaolin Temple Europe · 歐洲少林寺 located in Otterberg / Germany. This video is dedicated to Master Wu Nanfang and Chengeng from the Shaolin Wugulun Kung Fu Academy, who patiently taught me this basic routine called Pan Gen (Twisting Root).