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Firehawk4
04-26-2016, 05:33 PM
What all kinds of kung fu would beconsidered Ming Dynasty kung fu ?















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Cataphract
04-26-2016, 11:45 PM
TaiChi if you take Chen Wangting as reference point.

David Jamieson
04-27-2016, 06:25 AM
What all kinds of kung fu would beconsidered Ming Dynasty kung fu ?



I assume you mean styles?

Most styles we see today are constructs formed in the Qing dynasty and later.

I think the practice of Kung Fu prior to the Qing was a whole lot different than our understanding of it. More compartmentalized and focusing on individual attributes with a tie in to direct usage qualities.

Piece meal stuff.

Cataphract
04-27-2016, 10:42 AM
Also there are a couple of styles that are older than Ming but still practiced like Shuai Jiao, YueJia Quan etc.

Sal Canzonieri has some great articles on his homepage (http://www.bgtent.com/naturalcma/index.htm) on this topic. Looks like Hong Quan, MeiHua Quan and Pao Chui were assembled during Ming.

mawali
04-28-2016, 03:20 PM
I would say most of what we know as CMA was pre Ming. The major difference is that Ming era allowed for more analyses of what CMA was about, more elaborate writings on Daoist MA, Buddhist MA etc.
Ming (1644-1911/12?), as the last before the Republic, at least at the end, called for more wider dispersal with better methods/modes of communication.
Even Chen shi taijiquan is over 500 years old:D

Jimbo
04-28-2016, 03:47 PM
Ming (1644-1911/12?), as the last before the Republic, at least at the end, called for more wider dispersal with better methods/modes of communication.
Even Chen shi taijiquan is over 500 years old:D

Actually, it was the Qing (Ching) Dynasty that was the last from 1644-1911 or 12, prior to the Republic.

Cataphract
04-29-2016, 10:11 AM
Meir Shahar: Ming-Period Evidence of Shaolin Martial Practice
http://www.jstor.org/stable/3558572

I had this sitting on my hard drive and totally forgot about it. ;)