Ralek Busted at Inthe guard LOL

[Water Dragon]

Check out this thread:

http://216.92.33.45/forum/Forum1/HTML/015355.html

Most actions of men can be explained by observing a pack of dogs. Not wild dogs, just neighborhood dogs who all scurry under the fence on the same night and set off together to reclaim a glimmer of the glory their species possessed before domestication.

[Budokan]

?

[Martial Joe]

When I saw this topic name I thought you ment he orgasmed in the guard...

oh man... :D

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[Badger]

O-K....What does this have to do with Ralek?

Badger

Support The Economy. Buy A Gun.

[Sharky]

LOL joe

All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.

[Water Dragon]

Go toward the bottom of the thread. Ralek is still known there by his original name of Rolls.

Most actions of men can be explained by observing a pack of dogs. Not wild dogs, just neighborhood dogs who all scurry under the fence on the same night and set off together to reclaim a glimmer of the glory their species possessed before domestication.

[Badger]

I still don't see it.

Is this the right Thread:



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Topic: BJJ secrets - (post of the year)
kami
Junior Member

Posts: 5
From: No Gi Land
Registered: Oct 2001
posted 11-04-2001 17:20

To all of you wondering why BJJ wins so much lately.

Wich BJJ guys lost NHB?? Royler,lewis, Bueno, etc etc....

Why?? Because this guys didn't train the right way.. I am a HUUUGE Fan of NINO Schembri and hi looked
good on the ground against Johil inPride 14 BUT:

1- His takedowns where pathetic

2- He was clueless o n Striking

These to Elements could have him knocked out against a guy like Igor,Saku etc.. If you are going to fight in
NHB you must either be a very good striker with great takedown defenses OR a great Gr appler with Very solid
Takedowns. You cannot fight NHB and do a little bit of everything but not doing anything Solid. Look at
mezger, Hes good at everything but not a Master in Anything special. Thats why he loses so much. Think if He
was a Phenom on the feet then he could win almost everyone. I am BJJ Freak so have watched the recent
Abu Dhabis like 80 times for each tape. I did a very good observation:

Saulo Ribeiro vs Jerry Bohlander

in the middle of the match something hit me. Jerry didn't have a chance against Saulo at the ground game
and was defending all the time. And I thought.... Think if this was NHB and Saulo had Great takedowns. He
would absolutely Maule Bohlander. because if Bohlander couldn't finish him standing he would not have any
clue at the ground.

Top Team:

Why are the Top team winning every match out there. The reason is this ( I train with an Top Team affiliate ).
In top team there is no :

1- Difficult techniques

2- No training with GI for no holds barred

You cannot train with the GI all the time and take it of 2 month prior to a NHB. You must train without if youre
goal is No holds barred. I f anyone has seen Sperrys tapes you can see that he Uses EVERY techniques he
shows on the tapes. He actually does them in competition. A Guy Like Roleta would never survive in NHB with
his game today. You ca nnot do Flower-sweep-with-35degree-reversed-kimura when a guy like Herring is
pounding youre head into the canvas... You must train for no holds barred. The quote that you have to wear
the gi because it make s you better is **** ( ask Sperry, Mino ), the GI is good but so is the NO GI.70 % of the
jiu-jitsu teachers say this just because they cannot fight with the same superiority without the GI. I am a Blue
Belt with the GI but I can roll with brown and Blackbelts without. Because i train with the GI about 3 times a
year and I have NO intensions of fighting with the GI.


Crosstraining:

This is another misunderstood term. People think that they must be Muay Thai specialists and BJJ ecperts to
fight NHB. In BJJ you must train Boxing, Muay thai etc. just to prevent the KO and TAKE youre opponents to
the ground. We are not Boxers but we can use Boxing for taking someone down like:

Jab jab Cross followed by clinch.

When was the Last Time a Pure Grappler was KO:ed?? Dont mention Renzo because hes shots is terrible
compared to say Fujita. It is very hard to KO someone if the other fighter doesn't want to fight standing. lets
look at some KO:s recently:

Silva vs Mezger:

Mezger goes out and Trades with silva and has no intentions of taking the fight to the ground. he fights a good
fight but gets KO:ed

Lidell vs Mezger:

Same a s the previous. I cant remember how many times they could take each other down in this fight.... the
oppurtunities( spel??) where HUGE.

Renzo vs Henderson:

The only reason Renzo g ets KO:ed is his poor Takedown attemts against a top wrestler.

So the keys to KO someone is these 2:

1. The other fighter has bad Takedowns and lacks Standup.

2. Both fighters a re very good on the feet and the one who scores a good chin-temple shot is the winner. this is
a bit like lottery. Look at Silva-Mezger Mezger stunned him and could very well get the KO. Same with Silva
vs O hyama. This happened to Silva against Belfort and to Belfort against Coutoure.

The Keys of Succsesfull BJJ:

1- Rock Solid Takedowns like Belfort, Arona, Sperry...

2- Superiour Ground game( we usually have better ground game than other styles in MMA )

3- Enough Standup to Prevent a KO

Many people came here and said:

Man how could Sperry submit IGOR.

My Answer:

This is very simple, Igors open guard looked like a Blue Belt( an average blue ), and here we have maybe the
best passer of BJJ history.... So when Sperry takes him to the ground its like a BJJ master vs an average
grappler. it would be the same if Sperry Could NOT take him to the Ground: then it would be Standup ace vs
mediocre standup fighter.

Kami


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bjjis4real
Member

Posts: 77
From: michigan
Registered: Aug 2000
posted 11-04-2001 17:32

sounds good like pure truth to me.

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Richard
Junior Member

Posts: 43
From: USA
Registered: Aug 2001
posted 11-04-2001 17:51

v ery interesting!

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iamdoomsday
Member

Posts: 85
From:
Registered: Aug 2001
posted 11-04-20 01 23:45

I was just wondering what is the rule on posting PRIDE results before it shows in the states...
I already knew the outcome of this fight by the way but only because of a post on here. I'm not mad or
anything I just wanted to know the rule so i could post on it in the future without getting in trouble. Or know
which threads to avoid, etc....

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Wolvie
Member

Posts: 57
From: Princeton KY, USA
Registered: Aug 2001
posted 11-04-2001 23:56

WOW!! cool analogies my friend. Dont get out much huhh???? Thats ok me either....


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socal
Moderator

Posts: 1836
From: Torrance, Ca, USA
Registered: Aug 99
posted 11-05-2001 14:06


quote:

Originally poste d by iamdoomsday:
I was just wondering what is the rule on posting PRIDE results before it shows in the
states...
I already knew the outcome of this fight by the way but only because of a post on here.
I'm not mad or anything I just wanted to know the rule so i could post on it in the future
without getting in trouble. Or know which threads to avoid, etc....


I think the only thing we would appreciate is that you make a thread saying

Pride Results--Click if you want to know

And don't mix the results in other threads so those who don't wanna know can still look at the forum.


Thanks

Socal

IP: 66.121.233.162
socal
Moderator

Posts: 1836
From: Torrance, Ca, USA
Registered: Aug 99
posted 11-05-2001 14:06


quote:

Originally posted by iamdoomsday:
I was just wondering what is the rule on posting PRIDE results before it shows in the
states...
I already knew the outcome of this fight by the way but only because of a post on here.
I'm not mad or anything I just wanted to know the rule so i could post on it in the future
without getting in trouble. Or know which threads to avoid, etc....


I think the only thing we would appreciate is that you make a thread saying

Pride Results--Click if you want to know

And don't mix the results in other threads so those who don't wanna know can still look at the forum.


Thanks

Socal

IP: 66.121.233.162
Hawk
Member

Posts: 1460
From: Jasper,Texas,
U.S.A.
Registered: Jun 99
posted 11-05-2001 14:45

Excellent Post!!!!
If you want to do NHB exclusively then No Gi is the way to go. I'm a big fan of practice how you intend to
fight. If tournament GJJ/BJJ is your big thing train with a Gi. If NHB is your thing, train without.
Hawk

IP: 209.119.189.231

[Water Dragon]

******!!!

The board is acting up again. I'll post the reply when it comes back. Probably in about 2 hours.

Most actions of men can be explained by observing a pack of dogs. Not wild dogs, just neighborhood dogs who all scurry under the fence on the same night and set off together to reclaim a glimmer of the glory their species possessed before domestication.

[Martial Joe]

I dont see it either...

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I am Sharky's main man...

[Ralek]

They might be talking about the real Rolls Gracie that i named myself after. My original name was Gaiden. Then i got banned several times and eventually used the name Rolls.

I'm not sure wich name they would associate me with but most likely they would remember Gaiden but they probably forgot by now.

Brazilian jiujitsu is superior.

[Water Dragon]

Maybe, they never said anything about Gaidan. You should go play over at the Underground more. They would love you.

Most actions of men can be explained by observing a pack of dogs. Not wild dogs, just neighborhood dogs who all scurry under the fence on the same night and set off together to reclaim a glimmer of the glory their species possessed before domestication.

[Badger]

You don't deserve the names of Rolls or Ralek.You are now "Mr.Poopy Pants"


Badger

Support The Economy. Buy A Gun.

[Ralek]

I did use the name Rolls a lot there too. I can't remember how many trolls i did under each name.

Brazilian jiujitsu is superior.

[Badger]

You must be so proud.


Badger

Support The Economy. Buy A Gun.

[Water Dragon]

Author Topic: BJJ secrets - (post of the year)
kami
Junior Member
Posts: 5
From: No Gi Land
Registered: Oct 2001
posted 11-04-2001 17:20
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
To all of you wondering why BJJ wins so much lately.
Wich BJJ guys lost NHB?? Royler,lewis, Bueno, etc etc....

Why?? Because this guys didn't train the right way.. I am a HUUUGE Fan of NINO Schembri and hi looked good on the ground against Johil inPride 14 BUT:

1- His takedowns where pathetic

2- He was clueless on Striking

These to Elements could have him knocked out against a guy like Igor,Saku etc.. If you are going to fight in NHB you must either be a very good striker with great takedown defenses OR a great Grappler with Very solid Takedowns. You cannot fight NHB and do a little bit of everything but not doing anything Solid. Look at mezger, Hes good at everything but not a Master in Anything special. Thats why he loses so much. Think if He was a Phenom on the feet then he could win almost everyone. I am BJJ Freak so have watched the recent Abu Dhabis like 80 times for each tape. I did a very good observation:

Saulo Ribeiro vs Jerry Bohlander

in the middle of the match something hit me. Jerry didn't have a chance against Saulo at the ground game and was defending all the time. And I thought.... Think if this was NHB and Saulo had Great takedowns. He would absolutely Maule Bohlander. because if Bohlander couldn't finish him standing he would not have any clue at the ground.

Top Team:

Why are the Top team winning every match out there. The reason is this ( I train with an Top Team affiliate ). In top team there is no :

1- Difficult techniques

2- No training with GI for no holds barred

You cannot train with the GI all the time and take it of 2 month prior to a NHB. You must train without if youre goal is No holds barred. If anyone has seen Sperrys tapes you can see that he Uses EVERY techniques he shows on the tapes. He actually does them in competition. A Guy Like Roleta would never survive in NHB with his game today. You cannot do Flower-sweep-with-35degree-reversed-kimura when a guy like Herring is pounding youre head into the canvas... You must train for no holds barred. The quote that you have to wear the gi because it makes you better is **** ( ask Sperry, Mino ), the GI is good but so is the NO GI.70 % of the jiu-jitsu teachers say this just because they cannot fight with the same superiority without the GI. I am a Blue Belt with the GI but I can roll with brown and Blackbelts without. Because i train with the GI about 3 times a year and I have NO intensions of fighting with the GI.


Crosstraining:

This is another misunderstood term. People think that they must be Muay Thai specialists and BJJ ecperts to fight NHB. In BJJ you must train Boxing, Muay thai etc. just to prevent the KO and TAKE youre opponents to the ground. We are not Boxers but we can use Boxing for taking someone down like:

Jab jab Cross followed by clinch.

When was the Last Time a Pure Grappler was KO:ed?? Dont mention Renzo because hes shots is terrible compared to say Fujita. It is very hard to KO someone if the other fighter doesn't want to fight standing. lets look at some KO:s recently:

Silva vs Mezger:

Mezger goes out and Trades with silva and has no intentions of taking the fight to the ground. he fights a good fight but gets KO:ed

Lidell vs Mezger:

Same as the previous. I cant remember how many times they could take each other down in this fight.... the oppurtunities( spel??) where HUGE.

Renzo vs Henderson:

The only reason Renzo gets KO:ed is his poor Takedown attemts against a top wrestler.

So the keys to KO someone is these 2:

1. The other fighter has bad Takedowns and lacks Standup.

2. Both fighters are very good on the feet and the one who scores a good chin-temple shot is the winner. this is a bit like lottery. Look at Silva-Mezger Mezger stunned him and could very well get the KO. Same with Silva vs Ohyama. This happened to Silva against Belfort and to Belfort against Coutoure.

The Keys of Succsesfull BJJ:

1- Rock Solid Takedowns like Belfort, Arona, Sperry...

2- Superiour Ground game( we usually have better ground game than other styles in MMA )

3- Enough Standup to Prevent a KO

Many people came here and said:

Man how could Sperry submit IGOR.

My Answer:

This is very simple, Igors open guard looked like a Blue Belt( an average blue ), and here we have maybe the best passer of BJJ history.... So when Sperry takes him to the ground its like a BJJ master vs an average grappler. it would be the same if Sperry Could NOT take him to the Ground: then it would be Standup ace vs mediocre standup fighter.

Kami


------------------
Have: Pitbull
Do: Jiu-Jitsu
Fight: with Board Shorts
Admire: Top Team
Love: Saulo Ribeiro
Worship: Rickson


IP: 213.66.248.243

bjjis4real
Member
Posts: 78
From: michigan
Registered: Aug 2000
posted 11-04-2001 17:32
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sounds good like pure truth to me.
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jj evolved into bjj. what is next?

IP: 164.76.106.210

Richard
Junior Member
Posts: 44
From: USA
Registered: Aug 2001
posted 11-04-2001 17:51
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very interesting!
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iamdoomsday
Member
Posts: 87
From:
Registered: Aug 2001
posted 11-04-2001 23:45
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I was just wondering what is the rule on posting PRIDE results before it shows in the states...
I already knew the outcome of this fight by the way but only because of a post on here. I'm not mad or anything I just wanted to know the rule so i could post on it in the future without getting in trouble. Or know which threads to avoid, etc....
------------------
Hope for nothing and you will never be dissapointed! - by me

It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.

IP: 166.102.131.89

Wolvie
Member
Posts: 57
From: Princeton KY, USA
Registered: Aug 2001
posted 11-04-2001 23:56
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WOW!! cool analogies my friend. Dont get out much huhh???? Thats ok me either....

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Train Hard BUB!

IP: 216.142.173.128

socal
Moderator
Posts: 1868
From: Torrance, Ca, USA
Registered: Aug 99
posted 11-05-2001 14:06
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by iamdoomsday:
I was just wondering what is the rule on posting PRIDE results before it shows in the states...
I already knew the outcome of this fight by the way but only because of a post on here. I'm not mad or anything I just wanted to know the rule so i could post on it in the future without getting in trouble. Or know which threads to avoid, etc....


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I think the only thing we would appreciate is that you make a thread saying

Pride Results--Click if you want to know

And don't mix the results in other threads so those who don't wanna know can still look at the forum.


Thanks

Socal


IP: 66.121.233.162

socal
Moderator
Posts: 1868
From: Torrance, Ca, USA
Registered: Aug 99
posted 11-05-2001 14:06
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by iamdoomsday:
I was just wondering what is the rule on posting PRIDE results before it shows in the states...
I already knew the outcome of this fight by the way but only because of a post on here. I'm not mad or anything I just wanted to know the rule so i could post on it in the future without getting in trouble. Or know which threads to avoid, etc....


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I think the only thing we would appreciate is that you make a thread saying

Pride Results--Click if you want to know

And don't mix the results in other threads so those who don't wanna know can still look at the forum.


Thanks

Socal


IP: 66.121.233.162

Hawk
Member
Posts: 1460
From: Jasper,Texas, U.S.A.
Registered: Jun 99
posted 11-05-2001 14:45
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Excellent Post!!!!
If you want to do NHB exclusively then No Gi is the way to go. I'm a big fan of practice how you intend to fight. If tournament GJJ/BJJ is your big thing train with a Gi. If NHB is your thing, train without.
Hawk
IP: 209.119.189.231

100kgkilla
Member
Posts: 306
From: Southtown USA
Registered: May 2000
posted 11-06-2001 16:52
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Nice of you to cut and paste this "masterpiece" for us... Rolls!

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Most actions of men can be explained by observing a pack of dogs. Not wild dogs, just neighborhood dogs who all scurry under the fence on the same night and set off together to reclaim a glimmer of the glory their species possessed before domestication.

[Ralek]

Am i Kami?

I can't be Kami. I have been permanently banned from intheguard. Believe me, if I could post there i would. That place is forum Heaven. But i have been caste out of the forum never to return again. I must now wonder the internet in kung fu forums as every single BJJ and NHB forum has permanently banned me.

Brazilian jiujitsu is superior.

[Water Dragon]

Check the last post and the reference to Rolls. I doubt very much he is talking about Rolls Gracie

Most actions of men can be explained by observing a pack of dogs. Not wild dogs, just neighborhood dogs who all scurry under the fence on the same night and set off together to reclaim a glimmer of the glory their species possessed before domestication.