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Jeff Liboiron
11-23-2001, 09:51 PM
I tend to use pak sau and wu sau the most, as i find tan sau and fok sau to difficult to use against a fast combination of 5 or 6 punches.

What are your thoughts?

The object is not to hurt someone else, but to stop them from hurting you

TjD
11-24-2001, 01:26 AM
theres no blocking
when one hand retreats follow it to strike
close the gap

dont stand away and block a rapid sucession of punches

its much harder to defend that attack

peace
travis

Receive what comes, Escort what leaves, and if there is an opening, rush in

Martial Joe
11-24-2001, 03:33 AM
Why let the guy get up to 5 or 6 punches?

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Jeff Liboiron
11-24-2001, 05:04 AM
it's just for practice that's all

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whippinghand
11-24-2001, 05:15 AM
work on strengthening your structure.

Jeff Liboiron
11-24-2001, 05:17 AM
I do that as well

good point WH

The object is not to hurt someone else, but to stop them from hurting you

Martial Joe
11-24-2001, 05:25 AM
Jeff...you should train to not let a guy get that many swings!!


Just my opinion...

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Jeff Liboiron
11-24-2001, 05:43 AM
i do Joe, you state a good point :) but i also like to just train my blocks without countering and see how effective they work for me, and also to help my self understand the principles behind them more :)

In a real fight i would let my opponent get off more than one punch, and i know this from experience :)

The object is not to hurt someone else, but to stop them from hurting you

whippinghand
11-24-2001, 06:29 AM
Focus on yourself, and not "the opponent".

Jeff Liboiron
11-24-2001, 07:09 AM
WH, by that, do you mean what suits me?

The object is not to hurt someone else, but to stop them from hurting you

Jeff Liboiron
11-24-2001, 07:11 AM
Because i am missing my leg i find it harder to rush in and close the gap immediately, and i find it easeir for me to block a few punches and then close the gap and hit them.

The object is not to hurt someone else, but to stop them from hurting you

whippinghand
11-24-2001, 08:35 AM
I was just reinforcing the importance of solidifying the structure. Something you should probably focus on twice as much as everyone else.

Regardless of what an opponent is doing, your first defense, in a sense, is your structure. It doesn't matter what technique your executing, your structure is most important.

To answer your initial question: What blocks do you tend to use to defend against a flury of punches?

No block, just hold out arm of choice, in position of choice, let the structure do the work, moving or not.

whippinghand
11-24-2001, 08:38 AM
is it my understanding, from a previous post, that you are teaching yourself? or do you have a sifu? Also, why did you choose Wing Chun?

Jeff Liboiron
11-24-2001, 09:28 AM
I did have a sifu for a few months, but he moved, and i am teaching myself now through videos, and enjoy teaching myelf alot, but I do hope to find a sifu one day.

I chose Wing Chun because of it's simplicity, it is direct, and it focuses more on in-fighting, where as long range fighting would not be good for me because of my leg and thus Wing Chun suits my body very well. I like the fact that it focuses more on lower kicks instead of higher kicks, and that it is not based on force against force.

The object is not to hurt someone else, but to stop them from hurting you

whippinghand
11-24-2001, 08:04 PM
How often do you go to Vancouver?

Jeff Liboiron
11-24-2001, 09:09 PM
i never go to vancouver, however it is very easy for me to get there, why do you ask?

The object is not to hurt someone else, but to stop them from hurting you

rubthebuddha
11-25-2001, 06:51 AM
well, i dunno what his intention is, but i know ralph haenel has a wingtsun kwoon in vancouver. check out http://www.wingtsunkungfu.com for his site.

or, if you really like traveling, right across the border in bellingham is my school. ;)

-rtb

straight blast
11-25-2001, 01:39 PM
I've seen a video of Jim Fung deflecting chain punches with one hand just changing from bong sao to tan sau. The other person just couldn't get through no matter how hard she tried. It was pretty cool actually :D

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And puts your name to shame
Cover up your face
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Marek
11-25-2001, 02:02 PM
Something I have found effective against a flurry of straight punches (any other kind are easy to close in on) is to tan the first with the same hand then pack strongly the hand only needs to move a few inches so you stop the attack at source, the next attack is almost invariably stronger (read tenser) and you can receive teh force comfortably with a pivot and lap. This leaves it to your imagination which strike to use. I prefer to kick the leg that jerks forward to stop the oponent falling. In geenral as teh transition from the tan to the pack is so easy the opponent _will_ get frustrated and over commit with a punch. I have no doubt those of you with better/more experience will find flaws in this but i have found it to work (albeit against unskilled opponents).
maz

Shadowboxer
11-25-2001, 09:51 PM
Look into Yut Fuk Yee - 1 hand bridges 2.

[Censored]
11-27-2001, 02:19 AM
Blocking chain punches is a fools game. Occupy their space immediately, and let them try to go around you.

Jeff Liboiron
11-27-2001, 02:44 AM
I wasn't talking about chain punches specifically

The object is not to hurt someone else, but to stop them from hurting you

CanadianBadAss
11-27-2001, 07:07 AM
i might use a kwok soa and tangle up his arms... or maybe its a called a gun sao i cant remember, its a technique from the wooden dummy form

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CanadianBadAss
11-27-2001, 07:08 AM
who was your sifu in vancouver?

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Jeff Liboiron
11-27-2001, 07:18 AM
I never had a sifu in vancouver, whipping hand was just wondering if i ever go over there, and i could possibly train with him. :)

I may do just that

The object is not to hurt someone else, but to stop them from hurting you

CanadianBadAss
11-27-2001, 08:20 PM
How? He lives in Toronto doesn’t he? You guys should come visit my school; during the day it’s a Chinese food restaurant.

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