2020 Tiger Claw Elite KungFuMagazine.com Online Championship

[GeneChing]

The 2020 Tiger Claw Elite Championships were postponed due to the pandemic. In lieu of this, the 2020 Tiger Claw Elite KungFuMagazine.com Online Championship (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/info/tournament/2020TCECP.html) is a socially distant championship happening over the KungFuMagazine.com’s YouTube channel (36.9K subscribers) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTYKTOidUiA).

The 2020 Tiger Claw Elite KungFuMagazine.com Online Championship is different than the online tournaments have been held already. This is a Grand Championship event, limited to 30 competitors per age bracket so there will only be 150 competitors max. All the competitors’ videos will be showcased on KungFuMagazine.com’s YouTube channel over the course of five weeks, one week per age bracket. First, Second and Third Place Trophies will be awarded for four different style divisions – Traditional Kung Fu, Songshan Shaolin, Modern Wushu and Tai Chi/Internal for all five age brackets. Additionally, a trophy will be awarded for a Grand Champion across the four style divisions for each age bracket, as well as a People’s Choice award (the competitor that receives the most views during the competition window).

Each Age Bracket will be capped at 30 competitors so ENTER HERE NOW (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd9i8mtwb7_9_36VLvB64mImTWvrkOEUY-DoTScVutp-ljiWw/viewform)

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2020-Tiger-Claw-Elite-KungFuMagazine-com-Online-Championship (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?71914-2020-Tiger-Claw-Elite-KungFuMagazine-com-Online-Championship)

2020-Tiger-Claw-Elite-Championships-amp-KUNG-FU-TAI-CHI-DAY-May-16-17-San-Jose-CA (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?71553-2020-Tiger-Claw-Elite-Championships-amp-KUNG-FU-TAI-CHI-DAY-May-16-17-San-Jose-CA)

Online-competitions (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?71905-Online-competitions)

[YinOrYan]

online-competitions

"no music is permitted on these videos"???

[GeneChing]

Can't dance without music?

The sad truth is that we cannot monetize our YouTube channel because of all of the music copyright issues predominantly from our tournament videos.

[YinOrYan]

Can't dance without music?

The sad truth is that we cannot monetize our YouTube channel because of all of the music copyright issues predominantly from our tournament videos.

Some of the best forms are highly synced to music, and I know its nearly impossible to clear all the music licenses for YouTube, but you guys could always host your own video then sell some sort of app, like this dance one:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zXn1QzZhxaXV6N9Fhv-hA_NusFvRBHyd/view

(Although on this one you've got to hit the play button in the middle of the screen to get it started).

[GeneChing]

...but that's not the point. This is an experimental concept - at least the way we're taking it on - and music doesn't play into it at this time.

[YinOrYan]

...but that's not the point. This is an experimental concept - at least the way we're taking it on - and music doesn't play into it at this time.

Having some soundtrack added at a later time would not work for the irregular timing of my forms, but could work for THOSE forms with lots of repeats.

Perhaps host your own video, but slap on your ads for MartialArtsMart instead of letting YouTube slap on all sorts of offensive ads...

[GeneChing]

If you want to compete, please enroll (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd9i8mtwb7_9_36VLvB64mImTWvrkOEUY-DoTScVutp-ljiWw/viewform). We'd love to see what you have.

If you can't do it without music, maybe next time.

[GeneChing]

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[YinOrYan]

If you want to compete, please enroll (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd9i8mtwb7_9_36VLvB64mImTWvrkOEUY-DoTScVutp-ljiWw/viewform). We'd love to see what you have.

If you can't do it without music, maybe next time.

Oh, I'm too camera-shy for that, but one of my students would like to know if you would include the music she composed herself for the Long Fist form.

[GeneChing]

That's how tournaments work. There are rules that must be followed. And for this time, the rule is no music.

She's welcome to film herself with the music if she needs it as a crutch to perform, but she'll have to delete the audio for the actual submission. We have no rules requiring audio except for no music.

[GeneChing]

2020 Tiger Claw Elite KungFuMagazine.com Online Championship KIDS (13 & under) DEADLINE is Next Wednesday, November 18! ENTER NOW! (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd9i8mtwb7_9_36VLvB64mImTWvrkOEUY-DoTScVutp-ljiWw/viewform)

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[GeneChing]

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Head Judge: Bryant Fong (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=1167)

Traditional Kung Fu: Robin Leong (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=1380), Robert Louie

Songshan Shaolin: Philip Sahagun, David Dezheng Xu (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=1289)

Modern Wushu: Hannah Chow, Christopher Pei (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=1113)

Tai Chi/Internal: Jeff Lin, Johnny Jang, Zhao Haobo

[GeneChing]

KIDS (13 & under) Submission Deadline is Wednesday! Enter now! (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/info/tournament/2020TCECP.html)

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[taichi4eva]

I just submitted one video. I thought I might be able to submit multiple videos if I was interested in other divisions as well. Is this possible?

[GeneChing]

For this competition, we are limiting competitors to only one video each. What we're doing is experimental, different than some of the other competitions where people just give you a score and post vids of the winners. If this goes well, we may expand in the future.

[GeneChing]

The 2020 Tiger Claw Elite KungFuMagazine.com ONLINE Championship KID Division has reached its competitor cap and is no longer accepting applications. Thank you everyone for participating and best of luck to our competitors! Tune into our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/user/KungfuMagazinedotcom) starting this Friday evening to watch the competition!

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[GeneChing]

Watch the Tiger Claw Elite KungFuMagazine.com KIDS Division on our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/KungfuMagazinedotcom)

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[YinOrYan]

Watch the Tiger Claw Elite KungFuMagazine.com KIDS Division


Very good, even without the music! These were my favorites:

Steve Zhang - I think this Shaolin Padao form was the best of them all.
Sophiena Cai Mendoza - Looked like a good traditional form more than Modern Wushu to me.
Ethan K Lam - I don't know the 3 Section Staff but it looked well done.

[GeneChing]

We had a lot of spillover of Modern Wushu to the Traditional Kung Fu & Songshan Shaolin divisions. Typical. We'll still award winners because we want this to be positively reinforcing but in our regular in-person tournament, we'd be more strict.

Hopefully more Traditional Kung Fu & Songshan Shaolin competitors will step up in the successive, more adult, rounds.

[GeneChing]

The submission deadline for the TEENS division is early because of the holidays. The KIDS division reached its cap before deadline so ENTER HERE NOW (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd9i8mtwb7_9_36VLvB64mImTWvrkOEUY-DoTScVutp-ljiWw/viewform)

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[GeneChing]

TOMORROW is the TEENS division Submission Deadline for the Tiger Claw Elite ONLINE Championships! ENTER HERE NOW (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd9i8mtwb7_9_36VLvB64mImTWvrkOEUY-DoTScVutp-ljiWw/viewform)

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[GeneChing]

The KIDS Champions are declared!

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The TEENS (14-17) Premiere this Friday (NOV 27) on our YouTube channel! (https://www.youtube.com/user/KungfuMagazinedotcom)

The YOUNG ADULTS (18-24) division Submission Deadline for the Tiger Claw Elite ONLINE Championships is NEXT WEDNESDAY (DEC 2)! ENTER HERE NOW (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd9i8mtwb7_9_36VLvB64mImTWvrkOEUY-DoTScVutp-ljiWw/viewform)

[GeneChing]

The TEENS (14-17) Tiger Claw Elite ONLINE Championship Premieres Friday (NOV 27) at 6PM PST on our YouTube channel! (https://www.youtube.com/c/KungfuMagazineDOTcom/videos)

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[YinOrYan]

The TEENS (14-17) Tiger Claw Elite ONLINE Championship Premieres Friday (NOV 27) at 6PM PST

This online thing has been a blessing-in-disguise, since I haven't been to a tournament in decades. I feel like I've been living a cave! I'm wondering at what point did Shaolin styles start having so much acrobatics and whippy weapons? When I was a teenager we had to train using heavy oak swords and breathe out of our nose, but then, I still admire the agility of these kids today, so this time I'm not going to front-run any of the judges with my favorites because it would just reveal my age and how far out touch I am with what's considered traditional kung fu these days.

[GeneChing]

I'm wondering at what point did Shaolin styles start having so much acrobatics and whippy weapons? When I was a teenager we had to train using heavy oak swords and breathe out of our nose, but then, I still admire the agility of these kids today, so this time I'm not going to front-run any of the judges with my favorites because it would just reveal my age and how far out touch I am with what's considered traditional kung fu these days.

Ha! Don't get me started on this...

[GeneChing]

The YOUNG ADULTS (18-24) division Submission Deadline for the Tiger Claw Elite ONLINE Championship is THIS WEDNESDAY (DEC 2)! ENTER HERE NOW (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd9i8mtwb7_9_36VLvB64mImTWvrkOEUY-DoTScVutp-ljiWw/viewform)

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[Jimbo]

This online thing has been a blessing-in-disguise, since I haven't been to a tournament in decades. I feel like I've been living a cave! I'm wondering at what point did Shaolin styles start having so much acrobatics and whippy weapons? When I was a teenager we had to train using heavy oak swords and breathe out of our nose, but then, I still admire the agility of these kids today, so this time I'm not going to front-run any of the judges with my favorites because it would just reveal my age and how far out touch I am with what's considered traditional kung fu these days.


TBH, I’m always much more impressed by a good, solid traditional form, performed to near-perfection by a seasoned practitioner, than all the flashy acrobatic forms in the world. I’m pretty sure that in most cases, the acrobatics and lightweight weapons were incorporated into traditional sets due to the influence of wushu (and/or XMA).

The thing about traditional forms is that they adapt, grow and change with the practitioner. The young people who are doing the modernized XMA, wushu and “nandu” will decline sharply beyond a certain (still-young) age, in the same way that gymnasts decline.

[GeneChing]

As of this posting, there is only one competitor in the YOUNG ADULTS (18-24) of the Tiger Claw Elite KungFuMagazine.com ONLINE Championship. Enter now and your chances of winning a trophy are great! ENTRANCE DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY.
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TBH, I’m always much more impressed by a good, solid traditional form, performed to near-perfection by a seasoned practitioner, than all the flashy acrobatic forms in the world. I’m pretty sure that in most cases, the acrobatics and lightweight weapons were incorporated into traditional sets due to the influence of wushu (and/or XMA).

The thing about traditional forms is that they adapt, grow and change with the practitioner. The young people who are doing the modernized XMA, wushu and “nandu” will decline sharply beyond a certain (still-young) age, in the same way that gymnasts decline.
As you know, I'm a huge proponent of real weight weapons, however I couldn't figure out a way to control for that in an online tournament. I'm open to suggestions.

All this being said, the two judges for our Traditional Kung Fu division would love to see something traditional. This time, it falls on the traditionalists for not entering. Even with our Songshan Shaolin, we have had more Modern Wushu entries than classical.

[YinOrYan]

As of this posting, there is only one competitor in the YOUNG ADULTS (18-24) of the Tiger Claw Elite KungFuMagazine.com ONLINE Championship.
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As you know, I'm a huge proponent of real weight weapons, however I couldn't figure out a way to control for that in an online tournament. I'm open to suggestions.


Oh no, I hope we're not scaring-off those young whipper-snappers! Any form is better than how my young relatives workout, that is, just with their thumbs...

[GeneChing]

The TEEN Champions are declared!

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The YOUNG ADULTS (18-24) Premiere this Friday (DEC 4) on our YouTube channel! (https://www.youtube.com/user/KungfuMagazinedotcom)

The YOUNG ADULTS (18-24) division Submission Deadline for the Tiger Claw Elite ONLINE Championships is TOMORROW (DEC 2)! ENTER HERE NOW (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd9i8mtwb7_9_36VLvB64mImTWvrkOEUY-DoTScVutp-ljiWw/viewform)

[GeneChing]

Oh no, I hope we're not scaring-off those young whipper-snappers! Any form is better than how my young relatives workout, that is, just with their thumbs...
That's like the dude at the high school dance who thinks he's scaring off all the babes. Traditionalists are scaring off the youth. They just aren't attracting them. Or at least, the young traditional practitioners aren't coming out to play. As of this post, there are only 3 entrants for the Young Adult section. That guarantees that they will all win a trophy if we don't get any more sign ups by day's end tomorrow.

[YinOrYan]

The TEEN Champions are declared!


Here were my top picks:

Ellie Luong, Songshan Shaolin, Eagle (I know a similar form so I know that was well done. I'm going to add some wing flapping like that!)
Kaylee Wibowo, Modern Wushu, Contemporary Sword Form (Controlled that whippy sword well. She should try a Ming sword).
Alexander He, Traditional Kung Fu, Southern Fist (Had better breath-control than the others. He should try it with his teeth clamped-down).

[YinOrYan]

... They just aren't attracting them. Or at least, the young traditional practitioners aren't coming out to play. As of this post, there are only 3 entrants for the Young Adult section. That guarantees that they will all win a trophy if we don't get any more sign ups by day's end tomorrow.

Well the Young Adult section seems to have demographics against it, at least in the U.S. When the kids go to college I think they are no longer forced to train by their parents. I don't know how U.C. Berkely gets enough kids participating in their tournaments. The University here has much more students but I could not even pay the kids to be interested. When I first started college they had several different martial arts classes, and now there's none...

[Jimbo]

I have no problem at all with kids/young people doing acrobatic/wushu-type forms. What I have a problem with is when they enter the traditional divisions, and the judges score their form higher than well-done traditional forms because they incorporated a backflip, or a tornado kick into a split, or called their wushu form traditional, etc. Those actually happened at kung fu tournaments I attended, admittedly a long time ago (late ‘90s).

TBH, kung fu isn’t popular with young people at all. Nowadays, even karate, Kenpo, TKD, and kung fu, if they’re practiced at all, seems to be all kids forced to train by their parents to give them another activity a couple times a week. Most will have quit by their teens. The only MA actually sought out by teens and young adults are BJJ/MT/MMA (or at least they were pre-Covid; only time will tell how many MA schools, BJJ academies, and MMA gyms have had to close permanently). But that’s all OK. MA will survive somehow, some way. There will always be SOME serious practitioners who will be motivated and carry it on, even if in small numbers.

[GeneChing]

I hear ya on Wushu competitors scoring over Traditional, Jimbo. I remember losing to wushu drunken style and changquan in a traditional ring back when I competed, and that was like 30 years ago. It's still an issue. I go blue in the face at our Judges' meetings trying to get them to agree to proper separation.

The fundamental problem is that traditional is not designed for competition while Wushu is. Teachers of Wushu train to win. Traditional practitioners perpetuate their tradition, whether it works in competition or not. Wushu coaches also know how to play the game - they stack their judges (all CMA tournaments rely heavily on volunteer judges) and rally their schools. Traditionalists expect fair play, and tournament promoters do their best to provide that. Wushu players play to win and capitalize on every advantage. As a former NCAA athlete, I admire that. That's how you play the game. But there's the rub. To a traditionalist, it's more than a game.

Now, Modern Wushu coaches are several generations deep. They play to win. They still enter traditional because some young coaches don't even know the difference. It's a constant challenge to beat them back. They play the game. The traditionalists abandon the game when they can't win by tradition, so the Wushu players win by default. And they're fine with that.

Okay, end of rant. Back to our regularly scheduled programming.

The YOUNG ADULTS is our smallest pool and it goes live tomorrow. There are less than half as many entries as there are trophies, so it's like a participation trophy, but none of them knew that going into this and kudos to them for representing.

[GeneChing]

The ADULTS (25-30) Tiger Claw Elite ONLINE Championship Submission Deadline is Next Wednesday (DEC 9). ENTER HERE NOW (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd9i8mtwb7_9_36VLvB64mImTWvrkOEUY-DoTScVutp-ljiWw/viewform)

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The YOUNG ADULTS (18-24) Tiger Claw Elite ONLINE Championship Premieres Friday (DEC 4) at 6PM PST on our YouTube channel! (https://www.youtube.com/c/KungfuMagazineDOTcom/videos)

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[GeneChing]

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[GeneChing]

The YOUNG ADULTS (18-24) Champions are declared!

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[YinOrYan]

The YOUNG ADULTS (18-24) Champions are declared!


I liked the Modern Wushu, in the reverse order awarded. I could tell Megha Gaonkar's dance experience served her well, without ever seeing her dance. Rachel Ho's performance would have been even better with the soundtrack, even though I never heard it, and I understand how Ning Fengfei whips got the judges excited! Now, can anyone tell me if Modern Wushu places any value in forms starting and ending in the same spot?

[GeneChing]

Now, can anyone tell me if Modern Wushu places any value in forms starting and ending in the same spot?

Fair question. We make no stipulations within our rules on this. It seemed like a random penalty because some folk traditional forms don't do this. It's important not to mistake a competition bound by rules with standard practice. That being said, Modern Wushu is a sport, although very few tournaments fully adhere to the rules of the sport because it's too expensive (it requires several certified judges and other official standards which are costly).

[YinOrYan]

... It's important not to mistake a competition bound by rules with standard practice. That being said, Modern Wushu is a sport, although very few tournaments fully adhere to the rules of the sport because it's too expensive (it requires several certified judges and other official standards which are costly).

Yeah, I've read their rules for "certified judges" before and find it absurd that they have an upper age limit! What young judges are going to know many weapon and animal forms???

[GeneChing]

Are you talking about the IWuF rules? Where does it say that exactly?

[YinOrYan]

Are you talking about the IWuF rules? Where does it say that exactly?

It was one of the big Wushu organizations that was in your magazine in the last year or two. Will try to track it down. Don't recall what the cutoff age was, but I do remember I was more than a decade past the limit, even though I'm now better than I ever was at that age...

[GeneChing]

There aren't that many big Wushu orgs. Do you mean a wushu-oriented tournament? The official IWuF tournaments are a sanctioned affair. Most tournaments, like ours (https://www.tigerclawelite.com/), are actually privately organized. Although we all run Wushu rings, we have our own distinct rule systems. Perhaps that's what you were thinking? Did you actually see this in print in our mag (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/index.php)? Or did you see the coverage in our mag and look up the rules?

Excuse my curiosity but I don't remember this and it seems like something I would remember, but my memory has been scattered lately so maybe I'm just blanking. Watch it be some article that I wrote myself. :o

[YinOrYan]

Or did you see the coverage in our mag and look up the rules?


Yes. I've gone through a year of back-issues already, looking at each of their websites. I don't mind the trip down memory-lane. Thinking it may have been the one CalWushu is part of, but maybe they changed it after some feedback. Wish I knew about this forum back then. I would think one of your connections would have heard of it, so perhaps its my judgement that is getting too old, ha ha ;)

[GeneChing]

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[YinOrYan]

There aren't that many big Wushu orgs. Do you mean a wushu-oriented tournament? The official IWuF tournaments are a sanctioned affair. Most tournaments, like ours (https://www.tigerclawelite.com/), are actually privately organized. Although we all run Wushu rings, we have our own distinct rule systems. Perhaps that's what you were thinking? Did you actually see this in print in our mag (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/index.php)? Or did you see the coverage in our mag and look up the rules?


Yeah, its IWUF rules for their IWUF INTERNATIONAL WUSHU JUDGES TRAINING & CERTIFICATION COURSE - 2018. Where it states the age requirements is here:

D.2. All new participants must have been born on or after January 1 st , 1968.

D.3. All existing judges must be 65 years of age (including 65 years of age) or under.

In other words, they give 15 years to clear out the proverbial dead wood. Quite the difference from back in the day when judges would get certified by some old hermit like the Master of the Flying Guillotine that would bust up the tournaments and turn them into an all-out brawl. What I find strange is that CalWushu goes along with what could be construed as age-discrimination in a place that has a huge oversupply of lawyers. Here's a link to the text:

http://www.iwuf.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/2018-IWUF-International-Wushu-Judges-Training-Certification-Course-General-Information-USA.pdf

[GeneChing]

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[GeneChing]

2020 was a bust tournament-wise. I doubt they updated.


Yeah, its IWUF rules for their IWUF INTERNATIONAL WUSHU JUDGES TRAINING & CERTIFICATION COURSE - 2018.
That's interesting, YinOrYan. Thanks for following up on it.

[GeneChing]

The ADULTS (25-30) Champions are declared!

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The ELDERS (30+) division Submission Deadline for the Tiger Claw Elite ONLINE Championships is TOMORROW (DEC 16)! ENTER HERE NOW (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd9i8mtwb7_9_36VLvB64mImTWvrkOEUY-DoTScVutp-ljiWw/viewform)

The ELDERS Premiere this Friday (DEC 18) our YouTube channel! (https://www.youtube.com/user/KungfuMagazinedotcom)

[YinOrYan]

The ELDERS (31+) Tiger Claw Elite ONLINE Championship Submission Deadline is This Wednesday (DEC 16). ENTER HERE NOW (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/admin/site_images/KungfuMagazine/upload/2668_2020TCE-KFM_OnlineChampionship_RULES2.pdf)

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You may not get many entries with that malformed link where it says ENTER HERE NOW. Not that I was going to enter, but perhaps next year there will be category called Ultra Traditional, where every move in the form has to have an application, start and stop in the same spot, and one has to keep their mouth shut, literally AND metaphorically...

[GeneChing]

YinOrYan - I appreciate your input but tournaments today are what they are. For them to exist, they need competitors or they won't be financially viable. I often hear traditionalists complain about wushu, and as a traditionalist myself who was defeated in competition by wushu players many times, I do sympathize. But the truth is wushu is designed for competition while traditional is not. More wushu players compete because that's what they are trained to do. And they understand competition. As a former NCAA athlete, I respect that. While it's nice to fantasize about an event specifically tailored to your practice, that's not how competition goes. You'd have to design your own event, and please, be my guest.

[Jimbo]

The traditional styles I’ve practiced...Changquan, Northern Tanglang (Mantis) and Choy Lay Fut...have all contained at least some forms that don’t start and stop in the same spot. All traditional styles are not the same; even different branches of the same styles differ in varying degrees. Yet I understand how to apply my kung fu (at least my CLF, and the Mantis I studied). There isn’t one criteria for what a “traditional” style is, so there is no way for one catch-all description of how they should look or be.

I haven’t participated in tournaments for nearly 20 years now, but I just thought I would point that out.

BTW, I have no idea how or why I got that “P” at the top of my post...:p

[YinOrYan]

The traditional styles I’ve practiced...Changquan, Northern Tanglang (Mantis) and Choy Lay Fut...have all contained at least some forms that don’t start and stop in the same spot. All traditional styles are not the same; even different branches of the same styles differ in varying degrees. Yet I understand how to apply my kung fu (at least my CLF, and the Mantis I studied). There isn’t one criteria for what a “traditional” style is, so there is no way for one catch-all description of how they should look or be.

I haven’t participated in tournaments for nearly 20 years now, but I just thought I would point that out.


That's good to know, because I haven't been to a tournament in over 30 years. Every Tai Chi, Chi Kung, and Kung Fu form I know starts and stops in the same place. Perhaps I've just been attracted to forms that do that, and all the Kung Fu forms I know have at least one application for every move. The good ones seem to have more than one...

[GeneChing]

The ELDERS (30+) Tiger Claw Elite ONLINE Championship Premiere Friday (DEC 18) on our YouTube channel! (https://www.youtube.com/c/KungfuMagazineDOTcom/videos)

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[YinOrYan]

The ELDERS (30+) Tiger Claw Elite ONLINE Championship Premiere

My favorite was the Kun Wu Sword done by Viet H Le. I wonder what's the history of that form. I liked the energy Patsy Lung put into that Song Shan form. Would love to see her do an animal form, perhaps tiger. Also, the tai chi forms of Jamio Along and Lili Yang were impressive...

[GeneChing]

The Tiger Claw Elite ONLINE Championship ELDERS Champions are declared!

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[YinOrYan]

The Tiger Claw Elite ONLINE Championship ELDERS Champions are declared!

At least this time I was closer in sync with the judges, although those chosen say more about the judge's experience or lack thereof...

[taichi4eva]

Thanks YinorYan! Viet Le here.

Kun Wu Jian was transmitted to our Grandmaster, Liu Yun Qiao, by his kung fu brother and, Zhang Xiang Wu. I practice mainly Baji and Pigua from the Wutan system transmitted through Taiwan.

If you're ever in the Chicago area, feel free to PM me. Take care!

[YinOrYan]

If you're ever in the Chicago area, feel free to PM me. Take care!

Likewise, if you are in the Los Angeles area. Until you mentioned it, I didn't even notice there was a Private Message function to this forum. Just tested it with this same message but it give me this error: "taichi4eva has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space."

[taichi4eva]

I'm actually originally from Orange County, CA. I learned the form from my Shifu, Jason Tsou.

http://jasontsoukungfu.com/

I have been his disciple for 7 years, but his student for nearly 13 years. I am a neurologist working in the Chicago area, but I make a few trips home throughout the year. Hopefully we can meet once this pandemic calms down.

[YinOrYan]

I'm actually originally from Orange County, CA. I learned the form from my Shifu, Jason Tsou.

http://jasontsoukungfu.com/


I like that saber form that he has on Youtube. I wonder which one of those 5 saber forms it is that he has listed on his website. Wish I had heard of him back when I lived in the San Gabriel Valley for 7 years...

[taichi4eva]

If it's the older clip, it was lan men dao.

If it's the newer clip, it was pi gua dao.

[GeneChing]

Competing with Covid. READ 2020 Tiger Claw Elite KungFuMagazine.com ONLINE Championship: Sheltered in Place (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/article.php?article=1576) by Gene Ching

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[GeneChing]

No 2021 In-Person TCEC. READ 2020 Tiger Claw Elite KungFuMagazine.com ONLINE Championship: Social Distance (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/article.php?article=1580) by Gene Ching

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[YinOrYan]

No 2021 In-Person TCEC.

Well then, this year you should try an online venue that allows any music soundtrack, including Google Drive. There's some awesome Kung Fu out there to music...

[GeneChing]

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[GeneChing]

Read my latest contribution to UNESCO ICM: How the Martial Arts Community Adjusts to the Pandemic: Virtual Tournaments and Online Training (http://unescoicm.org/eng/notice/qna.php?ptype=view&idx=8301&page=1&code=qna_eng)

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