Kiu Fat

[Shaolin Master]

In bak mei some of the bridging methods include :
Soi Kiu
Lim Kiu
Fung Kiu
Sat Kiu

How do these compare to the bridging methods of Hung gar or choy lei fut or sth mantis.....???
Where are they similar ?? where do they differ???

Since most southern styles have emphasis on bridging techniques lets discuss them in commune.

[EAZ]

Is there any way to translate these sentence sin English?

[Ginger Fist]

yes, similar/same bridges exist in jl spm, can't say about other spm pai, no idea on clf or hg end of it either.

[fiercest tiger]

what are the 18 bridges?

or yum cha do you know what the 18 bridges are in bak mei?

i dont know thats why im asking!! :cool: sui fuw you know please tell me?

is this to secret to tell, what about 18 hands is it the same? :D

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[Shaolin Master]

FT,

What are the Gau Gong Dim of Bak Mei ?

How about the Mo Geng Sum Fat ?

or even the

Lin Wan Fook Sau Heng Fat

Rgds

[fiercest tiger]

is this what you mean shaolin master?
:p




FOOK SAU IS HUNG GAR BEFORE CLC TAUGHT WHOEVER YOU GOT THIS INFO FROM! NO FOOK SAU IN BAK MEI!!
lin wan gwok sau kuen fat hahahahah !


bak mei gau yum gun ging ive learnt from omie bak mei! DID YOU LEARN THIS?:o

[fiercest tiger]

All your principles are from daoist principles not from bak mei kung fu! ok bak mei has daoist roots but doesnt contain these what you have written! stop reading to many books buddy! hahahah just kidding good try anyway.:D

now answer my questions?!

[fiercest tiger]

bump:cool: :p :mad: :eek: :confused: ;)

[Buby]

What about.. ah din go ah, ah buby ah :D

Nastiest method around I tell yea!

Buby

[fiercest tiger]

i know its also called just sup bat mor, the kuil is the bridging technique.

temptations are you saying that each move gives the opponent 18 temptations to bridge?

im getting excited sui fuw, help a brother out here! im not hakka but does a gwalo count?:(

[fiercest tiger]

opening is a salute..hahahaha good enough? ok ok double flying kick into a summersault cartwheel splits then salute...

is that hakka wushu sup batt mor?


double palms opening up facing upwards same or not? now i will have to kill you! hahahaha take it easy:p

[fiercest tiger]

come out, come out, where ever you are!!

did i say something wrong?

bump AGAIN!!!!!!:o

OK YOU DONT HAVE TO ANSWER ME, WE BOTH KNOW THE ANSWER TO IT, "RIGHT"?:)

sui fuw can you answer my questions, shaolin master wont answer me.

[fiercest tiger]

i want an answer..hahahahaha:p

[fiercest tiger]

the question was for shaolin master but he wont answer me because he knows!! hahahah

sup batt mor, is it the same whay you start?

[Yum Cha]

6 sets of combinations of 3. sub batt. In Chinese numerology, is it 3 or 4 that is the number for death?

What is a better translation of mor? If not devil, and not demon?

[Yum Cha]

A question: To start this pattern, going between the salute and the hands forward, one up, one down, does anybody roll their hands over and around to the inside before splitting them?

Not a test, just curious about a technique for bridging.

[feldor]

Yes, Right hand up, left hand down. Rolling counter and clockwise.



FT and Sui-fuw.

I thought that Sup Bat Mor reffered more to the demons on Chinese mythology, rather that Christianity. Then again, I could be clueless...:confused:


Peace
C
BFP
:)

[Shaolin Master]

All Questions have been answered and discussed in the past.

Mo = Rubbing/touching/to feeling something

Sup Bat Kiu - FT why so keen to know something you already believe to know?

Sup Bat Mo - Both palms press forward in a sinking fashion, prior to splitting up. Well at least in our BM.
Do you know the name of this movement FT ?

FT, you negate things without knowing their basis. I do not live on this thing, I have a life and many other interests apart from kung fu, so I come and go as I like.
The initial statements belonged to nothing, you chose to respond to be arrogant and even to presume a level of superiority. The funny part is there were no intentions but presumed there were. The fact is you are confident of your knowledge and will not accept otherwise especially from me. The satisfaction of knowledge (confidence) is the commencement of not knowing. Never doubt just because you think you know otherwise.

YC, GBT yes we do also. If you took the time to observe the few times I visited you would have a better understanding. Cannon could teach you Gau Bo Toi with a whole new dimension.

To a guailou language means a lot, to a chinese it is taken for granted. So many names can mean so many things none wrong nor right!

Anyways, happy practising!

[Yum Cha]

Language is meant to join people, not separate them. The fact that language separates people is one of the great lamentations of mankind.

SM, perhpas you will recall that we were very anxious to see your Kung Fu, however you were very shy. I would love nothing more than to share kung fu with you and Cannon again, visitors are always an inspiration and I have yet to fail to learn something with each visit.

Sifu is away until the first week in January, if you and Cannon, or other guests would care to join us for some tea and show and tell, you are very welcome. Cannon, feel free to come on your own if SM is too busy.

You know where and when, as long as it's a nice day.

[fiercest tiger]

i also have a life outside of kung fu, but you are the one that comes on here at kfo and says you know over 30 systems and have secret sh!t. well let me tell you something stop reading books and practise rather talk sh!t.

your questions are not bak mei, rather they are daoist pholosphy! you are so smart, you claim this and that but do you know one art properly?:confused:

i talk on what i know about if i dont i shut up and dont make up fantasy chinese names, and try and catch people out.:o also i do love to read what people have to say and yes i have learnt alot from everyone on here, YES even you shaolin master. :)

yes i do know the names of the moves, do you care to share it seems you are a bak mei specialist.:p i responded the way you asked the questions 1st, see it how you like it, i really dont care! ive had enough of this sh!t. good luck shaolin master:D all the best..omie to fut

[Shaolin Master]

FT,

I have never said I know anything really, I just answer questions.
In fact, I usually say I know nothing.

I don't have time to read MA books, I work long hours, I study Law (which entails much more reading) and I do scientific research all in addition to a normal life. Tell me where would I find the time. You love saying that but there is no basis where in fact you are a FullTime MA you have much more time. Most of my current MA reading is of chinese magazines like WuLin and ZhongHuaWuShu....thats about it. I am writing a lot lately though......but work is really busy and it is hard.

Finally, as I mentioned before - I have no gwoon, I have no monetary gain from MA, I don't claim to be no. one and I practise because I love it. If you believe I am not good enough then that is your opinion which does not affect me at all as that is nor my reason nor aim.

So just be happy and don't let emotions grab you :-)

YC,
Cool no worries shall do so someday. Our Cun and Duan Jing differs because our BM is part of an integration. It may be interesting to you. Those factors affect the performance method and other features.

[fiercest tiger]

you claim you dont know it all, but you only answer questions??? SURE YOU DO!

ANYWAY I DONT GIVE A TOSS. like i said good luck and train hard!!

so you study and havent got a kwoon, so that makes me have alot of time to spare you wreckon? wrong again mate. like i said you know it all...cya

[meltdawn]

Yum Cha:

Four is the number for death.

[Ginger Fist]

hey f.t. scope out this dude's sh*it ... he's a goober 4 sure

I have never said I know anything really,

--so poseur boy doesn't know anything ... really or falsely

I just answer questions.

--fine service provided by 1 who knows nothing ... really

In fact, I usually say I know nothing.

--best answer this twat slime streak can give

I don't have time to read MA books, I work long hours, I study Law (which entails much more reading) and I do scientific research all in addition to a normal life.

--& he flies around in his batmobile ... & he fights dangerous alien criminals ... & solves world hunger problems ... & dates julia roberts ... & on the weekends scales mt. everest without any climbing gear - butt naked & backwards just 4 the challenge ... & he ...

Tell me where would I find the time.

--give up dating julia roberts ... the rest of us want a shot at her

Most of my current MA reading is of chinese magazines like WuLin and ZhongHuaWuShu....thats about it.

--& marvel comics ... the x-men series

I am writing a lot lately though......but work is really busy and it is hard.

--sure ya do stumpy ... but scrawling ur name & tele. # on public bathroom walls doesn't qualify as writing ... really

Finally, as I mentioned before - I have no gwoon, I have no monetary gain from MA, I don't claim to be no.

--sniff ... sniffle ... sniff ... no 1 said u claimed 2 b no 1 u moron ... we know u r no 1 ... never have been - never will b ... u keep posting like u r some1 ... & some1 is not no 1

If you believe I am not good enough then that is your opinion which does not affect me at all as that is nor my reason nor aim.

--if ur aim was 2 prove u r a poseur & a goober u r in the bullseye 4 sure stumpy

So just be happy and don't let emotions grab you :-)

--4 sure stumpy ... & u b happy 2 & suck a big, fat tu*rd

[feldor]

Understand, thank you.

C
BFP
:)

[fiercest tiger]

spot on my friend, hahahahaha! im glad im not just the only one that see's this geek in the same light.:rolleyes:

[fiercest tiger]

shaolin master went down to the guangzhou bak mei school and tried to teach the sifu there!:p hahahahaha then wanted to learn there 3rd pole form lol.


wake up shaolin master, you dont know it all!!!:eek:

[Yum Cha]

mo (mor) = adjective or adverb? does it apply to what comes before or what comes after? As in the sub bat, or the kiu? ( I know some say Sub bat mor, and some say Sub bat mor kiu).

Your question is very open ended and hard to answer. I suspect English isn't your native language? Try to give me some more to work with.

6 combinations of 3, all "evil"? Different to a Tiger in attitude, scary? I'm shooting in the dark...

I've heard that the Hakka styles use less swallow the belly, is that true, or only to non-Pak Mei Hakka styles?

Is Wanders or gypsy style related to Hakka people, or only coincidentally?

How do you place your chopsticks and teacup when you eat out?

[Ginger Fist]

spot on my friend, hahahahaha! im glad im not just the only one that see's this geek in the same light.

--he's like a deer in headlights at night ... froze

[Yum Cha]

Thanks for sharing. Now I am in your debt.

Pour me to cha, or teet gum yum, and I won't ask you any more questions, and hopefully nobody will bother us as we enjoy our dinner.

Swallowing the belly - crunching the stomach and droping when you punch, or strike. (Tou Lik? Chaum Lik?) I'm told that is one of the things CLC added to the Hakka arts, a lesson he got from his study of Pak Mei.

[Yum Cha]

Originally posted by sui-fuw
Pour me to cha, or teet gum yum

sorry :confused: can't you say it in english?

t.t.f.ch,yes we use less:) as you might have worked out we keep an equalibriam and do not chum/chim[hakka]to much hardly at all.[but of course only practicing for many years]this should get less and less or you'll find out how slow you really are:D

do you believe in life after death?

--Sorry SF, don't know in English. Those are my favourite teas, "Tow Cha" is one and "teet guhm yaum" is the other. Sifu introduced them to me, and I only know how to say it in his way.

-- I understand, subtle movements are the domain of the learned students, gross exaggeration is a tool for training. The principle is the principle, how you use it is your measure.

-- I believe I don't need to know about life after death, as I can have no understanding of that in this life. My responsibilities are to the here and now either way. What will be revealed will be mine in time. You?