a pop quiz for all the smart ba gua students

[wisdom mind]

Lets keep this thread to the topic, keep other drama to your self

WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF ZHENG QI (CHENG CH'I)?
& HOW DO YOU CULTIVATE AND MANIFEST THIS IN YOUR BA GUA PRACTICE?

BONUS QUESTIONS: IS THIS QI ESSENTIAL TO BA GUA MASTERY?
CAN YOU REACH BA GUA ADVANCED LEVELS WITHOUT THIS?

good luck, you will be graded! :) lol

[wisdom mind]

where are all the ba gua heads on the board?
i can see you are looking, you arent even interested in
inquiring? come on!

this board HAS to have SOMEone
interested in ba gua here LOL LOL LOL.......................

[wisdom mind]

i guess everyone is busy practicing...oh wait i can tell you are looking...why not answer or ask wtf am I talkin about???

this is supposed to be a forum right???

brooklyn vagabond stylist

[Sum Guye]

I would answer... but can't for two reasons.

1. My understanding of Chinese words is limited.
(I know what Qi is (Energy) what is Zheng in English?)

2. I'm not a master and don't think I've reached what
you may consider advanced levels in Bagua.

From what I do know about Qi (energy) though, anyone who has worked up to mastery of Bagua will have good energy. Someone who is weak with bad energy can't master any martial art (although it's easy to find teachers who'll take their money, show them a few forms and deem them masters after enough has been paid).

[wisdom mind]

you appear to have a good head on your shoulders from what you wrote......


i got this from a book, ba gua by john bracy.

zheng qi translates to "moral righteousness" (literally "righteous qi)

so ineffect i suppose you answered the question already!

[MaFuYee]

this is obviously a trick question, as there is no such thing as a "smart" bagua student. - if they were really "smart", they would know that tai chi kicks bagua's butt. - muhahahaha!!!!

[Chris McKinley]

Perhaps it might if you could find real practitioners hiding amongst the hordes of Mandarin polyester-wearing peacenik flower-fisters out there! (Heh, heh, heh, heh, heh......)

[generic22]

I saw a post from many months ago where you mentioned you knew of a White Crane school in New York. I was just curious if it was still in existence, etc....

genericemail@go.com

[Water Dragon]

Zheng Qi is the ability to wrap yourself up like a friggin' pretzel and NOT fall down while doing it. Am I close ? :D

[Wu-Xing]

MaFuYee

" if they were really "smart", they would know that tai chi kicks bagua's butt. - muhahahaha!!!!"

I dont see how you come to this conclusion, since it is an indivdual who fights, not a style. But if you want to talk styles, then bagua has everything tai chi has , it has everything xingyi has and then it has some of its own, so in volume and content mass bagua has the most and also refined to a higher level. I do not learn bagua, im a xingyi guy, so ive no reason to be defend bagua but just because i dont learn it does not mean i dont have a very high level of respect for the art

[Water Dragon]

Wu Xing, I think you are wrong. During my research, I have come to the conclusion that the art of Bagua consists of two core skills only.

1. The ability to wrap yourself up like a pretzel and not fall down
2. The ability to spin around like a little kid and not fall down dizzy

It is considered high level Bagua when you can spin around while wrapping yourself into a pretzel without falling down.

[Nexus]

Yah, bagua is just tai chi in a circle.

Pretzel funk!

[Water Dragon]

I here by declae that Bagua's new name is:

PRETZEL FUNK FIST

[Wu-Xing]

Pretzel funk fist hmm...i like that ;)

WD, you seem to be making bagua sound like some kind of new age dance fad hehe , bet you pull all the chicks at the clubs with some circle walking on the dance floor. On a more serious note though ,its not my place to convince you im right, only to offer my opinion . But dont you think your two points are a little narrow?i mean, you seem to be describing bagua as if it has no internal meaning, like it is gymnastics.

[maoshan]

Water Dragon

What are you trying to say? I'm kind of slow so make it clear for me. Are you dissing Ba-Gua? and for what style? and if you are, I know your a novice at best. But I won't go here if i've got you wrong so please reply to this

Maoshan

[Water Dragon]

LOL. Don't take everything so seriously Joe. You'll live longer :D

[wisdom mind]

Ben!

HOW DO YOU CULTIVATE AND MANIFEST THIS IN BA GUA PRACTICE?

[Buby]

What up god! Do me a favor and holla at me. I've sent you a few e-mails, but no luck in contacting you.

I think you got both my job # and e-mail, so holla back when you get the chance. If not private message me here on kfo and I'll give you my contact info.

One,

Buby

[generic22]

Any chance you still know of a White Crane School in NYC

genericemail@go.com

[maoshan]

I cultivate this in my practice by clear mindedness.
No preconceived notion on anything save the art itself, inparticular the Qi gong aspects.
In fighting, I let Ba-Gua dictate the responce, thus it does you not you it.

Maoshan

[Water Dragon]

It's cool Bro. You know how I like to screw around here. Got nothing but respect for the art, it's just not for me.

[wisdom mind]

thanks ben!


bu - peep your mystic mail.......


have a blazin new year

[Water Dragon]

Burn, did I just get nicknamed Benny Hill? LOL

[wisdom mind]

interesting question.....

no i meant ben hill of the ill skilled brothers of the wu tang!
you can see them at www.blacktaoist.com

ben is a ba gua sifu, his page is linked to the blacktaoists

.............................

I dont know of any white crane teachers in NYC.

I am a keeper of a specific kuen of WC groundboxing,
I dont know the system outside of the form I know.

[Buby]

No doubt god...Will do....as soon as I get home. Holla at me tonight if you can.

I've got a couple of heads that are interested in droppin some shhhhh and a few droppin beats as well.

You got my crib # and you know where I rest...Do be a stranger.

Ohh..you gotta swing through for the holidays...Lets just say...I have present for you...the natural KIND!;)

Buby

[wisdom mind]

this highlights the duality of yin/yang

HA HA HA HA HA

aight G, ill holla over land lines later tonight