Turiyan
12-01-2000, 02:44 AM
The topic is closed so let me start a new tangent with REAL content.
First of all, if people dont know what a rhetorical question is. Finish high school first.
Just because any idiot can get a computer, log on and participate in discussions ANYWHERE doesnt mean they should.
The comment about extrapolating from manuals is dead on. A lot of bak fu is from manuals, scrolls, whatever.
In fact, I didnt post this here, but I found a contact in hong kong that says there was a old man selling these thick books years ago (he died) with herbal formulas, forms, ect that was supposed to come from a "shaolin temple".
He only had several copys and sold them for a high price (its hong kong). I cant wait to see the text myself. Sounds strangly famililar to the stuff doo puts out.
What goes on here and on other boards and lists is completely rediculous. People claiming to have black belts in mongolian wrestling.
Cronyism abound. Defending san soo and kenpo as legitimate martial arts systems. Like doing kenpo makes you as good as ed parker or his eruditionism?
Guys will defend something "just because". Brotherhood? Give it up. Make peace with your own family first.
Argument by misdirection: All the bfp cronys. Explain where doo learned wing chun. Because his two sons dont remember him being around. Nor any of his other family.
Secret kicking form? Puhlease.
Bak mei: Same story.
Southern mantis: Same story.
Those other forms are obscure. But it takes nerve to stake claim on someone elses fairly tight systems.
BFP Pay-per-view kung fu methodolgy:
Break something down to levels. Sell a "level" for thousands of dollars and a "title" to that "system".
Doo had bak mei in three levels for thousands each.
Iron palm coconut break levels 1-3 for $5k a piece I believe.
Lets talk about the herbal formula's. Many are very dangerous. No one can read them. I passed on to one of my contact. She says "Was written by non-native or someone not formally taught".
Now isnt THAT interesting... Then again, it may not mean much. I mean it seem most of the 'internal' bfp stuff is of alien origin.
Where in the whole canon of dao yin and chi kung do you have PERCENTAGE BREATH SEQUENCES. I mean come on.
You should read a message in the kung fool list archives where rizzo compares san shou to wcw wrestling. I'm saying the thinks its REAL!
He was talking about doo's demo of wing chuns "secret kicking form" and how the next day they got over 300 phone calls from all over the world.
About what? Thats the point. You cant get the full truth from these people. Truth is being as accurate as possible. Period.
I'm devoting no more time to this silly issue at this moment. More later if your lucky.
Turiyan, Brahmin caste, Ordos clan
The REAL taichi:
http://www.wfdesign.com/tc/
http://www.wustyle.com/108.html
First of all, if people dont know what a rhetorical question is. Finish high school first.
Just because any idiot can get a computer, log on and participate in discussions ANYWHERE doesnt mean they should.
The comment about extrapolating from manuals is dead on. A lot of bak fu is from manuals, scrolls, whatever.
In fact, I didnt post this here, but I found a contact in hong kong that says there was a old man selling these thick books years ago (he died) with herbal formulas, forms, ect that was supposed to come from a "shaolin temple".
He only had several copys and sold them for a high price (its hong kong). I cant wait to see the text myself. Sounds strangly famililar to the stuff doo puts out.
What goes on here and on other boards and lists is completely rediculous. People claiming to have black belts in mongolian wrestling.
Cronyism abound. Defending san soo and kenpo as legitimate martial arts systems. Like doing kenpo makes you as good as ed parker or his eruditionism?
Guys will defend something "just because". Brotherhood? Give it up. Make peace with your own family first.
Argument by misdirection: All the bfp cronys. Explain where doo learned wing chun. Because his two sons dont remember him being around. Nor any of his other family.
Secret kicking form? Puhlease.
Bak mei: Same story.
Southern mantis: Same story.
Those other forms are obscure. But it takes nerve to stake claim on someone elses fairly tight systems.
BFP Pay-per-view kung fu methodolgy:
Break something down to levels. Sell a "level" for thousands of dollars and a "title" to that "system".
Doo had bak mei in three levels for thousands each.
Iron palm coconut break levels 1-3 for $5k a piece I believe.
Lets talk about the herbal formula's. Many are very dangerous. No one can read them. I passed on to one of my contact. She says "Was written by non-native or someone not formally taught".
Now isnt THAT interesting... Then again, it may not mean much. I mean it seem most of the 'internal' bfp stuff is of alien origin.
Where in the whole canon of dao yin and chi kung do you have PERCENTAGE BREATH SEQUENCES. I mean come on.
You should read a message in the kung fool list archives where rizzo compares san shou to wcw wrestling. I'm saying the thinks its REAL!
He was talking about doo's demo of wing chuns "secret kicking form" and how the next day they got over 300 phone calls from all over the world.
About what? Thats the point. You cant get the full truth from these people. Truth is being as accurate as possible. Period.
I'm devoting no more time to this silly issue at this moment. More later if your lucky.
Turiyan, Brahmin caste, Ordos clan
The REAL taichi:
http://www.wfdesign.com/tc/
http://www.wustyle.com/108.html