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NorthernMantis
02-06-2002, 05:04 PM
This little innocent boy got ran over with a car.:(

The whole thing happened around 5:30 yeterday when I was going to get my haircut just a few feet before the barber shop I was going to and I got there with my family 5 minutes after it happened.My mom was driving my brother and I when we noticed that all the cars had sunndenly stopped.I saw this kid run into his house in a hurry and left his little sitster ( I assumed) outside.People were getting out of their cars and I though there was some kind of street fight.My brother got out of the car and went to see and I followed later.Then I got out of the car and ran to see what happened.

When I got close I saw a body laying on the ground and when I got even closer still I noticed it was a little boy around 7 year of age.It was the most horrible site.I got scared and didn't know what to do. The car that had hit him was some balck jeep.When I saw the driver I could see the look of terror in his face.

My brother when right up to the boy to do cpr (he took a course in school) but there was a man that claimed he was a paramedic.I saw that the man and the woman helping him were doing it worng since I took the course also but failed due to my lazyness.

After a couple of ,minutes blood started to ooze from the back of his head and brain fluid came out.It was horrible.I was too scared to do anything and all I said come on larry let's go get our haircut and I would just repeat.I felt so stupid saying that but I said it because I was afraid to to see the boy die but my brother didn't want to leave so I stayed with him.My mouth wasn't forming any coherent sentnces.It was just a little child no taller than my hip maybe.People were just crowed around as this man and woman tried to perform cpr.That little boy was just laying there lifeless with his body twisted one way and the head the other.The mother came ouyt three minutes later and was crying her eyes out.

There is a diference in t.v.v and real life.It was about one of the scariest things I ever had in my lifetime.

I left and I don't know what happened to that boy but I swear I saw the boy make an independent gasp even though they had an artificial respirator helping him.It looked bad.

Word advice to you parents and guardians:Always know where your child is and teachthem about crossing streets.:(

For the rest of you people out there please take care of your loved ones and don't take people you know for granted they might not be there the next time but it can be prevented.

If it's not too much too ask wether you believe in God or not,wether your religous or not ,please take 5 minutes to make a prayer for that young boy and his family.They need all the help they can get right now wether they know you're helping them ornot.

red_fists
02-06-2002, 05:15 PM
Northern Mantis.

being a Biker, I have seen many bad accidents and know how they can affect you.

Some of those were my Buddies and msot of them happened wright in front of me.

In my Home country part of your requirements for a driver Licence is a First-Aid & CPR Course. As we are legally required to give aid in those situations.

The worst and saddest one I saw, was a Guy on a 50cc jumping a Traffic Light and getting T-boned by a Car.

Helmet in 2 pieces, and the Head was at such an angle that the Doctor that worked close by didn't even try to hurry to the scene.

NorthernMantis
02-06-2002, 05:21 PM
red_fists-

Not a good thing to see something like that and you are right it can mess your head up alot.Took me a whole day to get over it.Seeing a hurt child is downright scary.

I hope that by putting up this post people with children can be more aware and prevent such a thing in the future.

red_fists
02-06-2002, 05:26 PM
Northern Mantis.

Here is an example on how an accident can affect you in a serious manner.

One morning me and my Buddy are heading out on a "Breakfast Run".
Close to the side where we are suppoed to be having breafast, a Biker fell badly.

Next thing I see is my Budy tearing down the road at high speed, when I caught up with him I asked him why he did that.

His answer was: " If I had looked a second longer I would have parked my Bike and never gotten on one ever again."

And that comes from a Guy that has lived on his Bikes for 20+yrs.

NorthernMantis
02-06-2002, 05:35 PM
That's some sacry stuff

qeySuS
02-06-2002, 06:09 PM
To hell with sounding like a *****,

That post really got to me, maybe because i was totally unprepared for what it contained and was listeing to kinda sad music or whatever but **** that just got me sad and misty (since i seem to be immune to crying even when it seems appropriate or whatever i'm not crying but i propably would be if i was anything like people that cry over movies).

**** i dont pray often but i'll most definetly do that in this case, cant imagine what it must have felt like to see the whole deal, would seriously mess me up.

I just hope since you dont know if he lived or not that you'll receive news (see it in the newspaper or whatever) that he did survive.

diego
02-06-2002, 06:22 PM
REDFISTS, WHAT DO YOU MEAN A BIKER, like hells angel or consistent-cyclist.

NM, its almost dreamy" not in a teeny bopper way of looking at the FONZ" when the crowd gathers in events such as you described, TOTTALY saw the images as i read as i saw my little sister hit ten years ago, and it was my fault, she was to slow, i wanted to get home and drink my chocolate milk, i jaywalked where i usually would, and she followed but got smoked, and i can still remember, PURPLE blood oozing out the skull=ILL:mad:

red_fists
02-06-2002, 06:27 PM
Hi Diego.

I mean a person that rides MotorBikes.

Yes, I belonged to a MotorBike Club, but never to something closely resembling the "Angels".

Most Clubs are more of a social affair, with the guys hanging out together and doing fun stuff like rallies, touring, Breakfast Runs.

diego
02-06-2002, 06:30 PM
it's just under your avatar it says japan, and here in canada usually when you say "biker" it implys those loser clubs.
good-day:)

red_fists
02-06-2002, 06:35 PM
Hi Diego.

Japan is my current place of residence, and maybe for quiet a long time to come.

Origin wise I am Austrian, but been living in a few countries on 3 Contintents since the age of 19.

Yep, and been riding Motorbikes in all those places. :cool:

Seeya:

P.S.: There are only 2 types of Bikers:
Those that have come off
and those are still to come off.

Always wear some extra skin between you and the tarmac.

Tae Li
02-06-2002, 06:51 PM
That is so sad!:(

whats worse is how his parents must be feeling....the worst feeling in the world. I hate nothing more than reckless ignorant drivers, who think that it is all about being in the 'fast lane'.

im not referring to the 'black jeep' person specifically, but to bad drivers in general.

My sister is a really reckless driver, thinks its all about speed, so when ever Im in the car with her, i always tell her to think of how she would feel if a kid just ran out on the road and she couldnt stop in time. she was shocked at the thought and said she would be suicidal..i said exactly, then slow down and control yourself.

I reckon we need more adds on the tele that ate REALLY horific, cause it looks like that is the only way you can get through to these people.

Tae Li;)

Im sorry you had witness such a tragic sight, but sometimes you need to be upclose ad personal to understand the power of reality.

red_fists
02-06-2002, 06:58 PM
Hi Tae Li.

In one country where lived we had a good series of ads against reckless and drunken driving.

Featuring real incidents and Peoples.

Ads would start of pretty normal and than wham bam something happened.
Fade to black to some text giving details
Final shots are of either a funeral( Dirt shoveled onto camer,etc) or a Survivor.

The one that hit the hardest was a Dad & Son in an accident. Little one died and last shot was of the Father sitting with amputated legs in a Wheel chair crying at the side of the road where it happened.

Not sure if the US would allow something like that,maybe not PC enough.

qeySuS
02-06-2002, 07:00 PM
So you can make Advertisements about tobacco and alcohol but not a commercial about safe driving because it's not PC enough? If that's true ..

red_fists
02-06-2002, 07:04 PM
Qeysus.

Not sure what you can be shown in the US in public.

But they seem to have some funny standards.

Which other country would remove ads of a 2yr old Boys in underpants, because it is pornographic.
Heck, how else should you advertise Kiddies underwear.

qeySuS
02-06-2002, 07:14 PM
They actually did that? Ok i gotta say that the congressman or whoever who actually saw something sexual from a 2 y.o. wearing underwear IS the pedophile, other people just see a kid in undies, the ones getting it removed ebcause it's pornographic must have gotten some kind of sexual message from it that others werent.

Ahh well i'm always hearing weird ass stories from USA but i loved it there :) Wanna live there!!

JAZA
02-06-2002, 07:35 PM
I will go to a RCP course after reading your post.
Thanks

qeySuS
02-06-2002, 07:42 PM
Yeah i know what you mean i also thought "**** i'm glad my school has CPR classes each year".

Daniel Madar
02-06-2002, 07:45 PM
Hey Peter,

I just read that you are Austrian. How funny. I studied at the HauptUni in Wien for a year. My german's pretty crappy right now, but I'm working on it and Japanese daily. Be interesting to meet with you. I'd say there's a good chance of it happening soon.

-D

red_fists
02-06-2002, 08:00 PM
Hi Daniel.

Small World. I grew up in Wien.

BTW, my German is also rusty, not much use of it these Days.

Hope to see you soon over here.

Ryu
02-06-2002, 08:09 PM
I'm really sorry you had to see that. :(
Violence is very real when it comes to you... but rather than talk about this little boy (who I will pray for) I'd like to ask how you're doing after seeing it? Something like that can actually traumatize a person, so if you have trouble getting it out of your head, maybe dreaming, etc. don't think it "weak" to talk to someone about it.
Okay? If you're okay, then that's great. :) Just thought I might mention it because something like that IS indeed traumatizing. Or at least it would be to me.
Take care,

Ryu

sticky fingers
02-06-2002, 08:14 PM
I used to be into sportsbikes when I was younger and more reckless. Going fast, doing stupid stunts (I've had my picture in a magazine doing a stoppie). Then I went to Phuket for a holiday and saw the horrific aftermath of a head on collison of 2 motorbikes. If you've been to Phuket you'll know that people there drive on the wrong side of the road, no helmets bascially just crazy and dangerous. It was about 3.30am one night and I was stumbling back to the hotel half drunk when I saw a big group of people ahead. There were standing around a European tourist who had come off his bike after colliding head on with another bike and cracked his head on the kerb. His girlfriend was lying next to him, both unconscious. NONE OF THEM WERE WEARING HELMETS. And people were just standing there gawking and doing nothing except for this one German guy. The guy's head was split open and blood and brain matter was oozing out. I instantly sobered up and took off my shirt and put it against his head. They were still breathing. My first aid training told me not to move the victims in case of neck/spinal injuries. So I was thinkning 'wait for the ambulance' but there were none...then a tuk-tuk taxi pulled up and guys began to lift them up by the arms and legs!! The man began to give out horrible groans but was clearly unconscious.I yelled at them to support their necks/heads. I followed them to the hospital but I didn't like their chances. After the holiday I promptly sold my bike and haven't been on one since.

word of advice if you're going to places like Phuket- don't rent the motorbikes or cars. They're cheap and look good but you don't know how well they've been maintained, not to mention that your insurance probably won't cover you if you get in an accident. We rented a jeep that had brakes that locked up as soon as you touched the pedal. Now imagine brakes locking up on a motorbike...

red_fists
02-06-2002, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by sticky fingers
Now imagine brakes locking up on a motorbike...

Been there had it happen, downhill on a wet road luckily I was slowing down approaching a traffic light.
As well as black ice in a corner at 80km/h..
Because of the black ice I started Tai Chi to help my knee & ankle heal.

Having a 750cc Engine land on them tends to shock them a bit, Thanks, got I ALWAYS wear full Leathers.

BTW, my Parents just got back from Phuket. We normally either travel by tuktuk or hire a local we know as a driver (air-cond. Mini-Van).

But, yes, those little put's at Holiay resorts are a sure way of runing your Holiday. Plus, most of them never ever check if you got Licence to ride them.

Seeya.

P.S.: One of my shorinshi Kempo Guys is down in Osaka this Weekend giving a Demo.

Daniel Madar
02-06-2002, 10:17 PM
Hmm. I started to get into Bikes when I lived in DC. All my friends had them. When I moved back from Japan, to SF, I was going to buy one. Then I noticed how crappily people drive here. After 4 years of hanging out with bikers in DC, the only guy who got hurt was being incredibly stupid, racing a guy on a ducati, while idiot was on his cruise bike, with his GF on the back. They were racing down Wisconsin at rush hour. ((That's one of the Main Drags in DC)). Idiot boy lost his leg, the girl lost her pinky.

On the other hand, I was in the Bay Area for two weeks, and about to put down a the cash for a bike, when a guy I met the week before had his dad run over by a 16 wheeler while they were biking up the Coast for vacation. In the 6 years I've been here, I know of 15 people killed in stupid Biking accidents, generally from idiot drivers.

Worst accident I've seen personally was in Japan. I saw a guy get smacked by a bus, while on a bike of some form. I was on the balcony, but the guys legs were completely twisted. That's also when I found out that the average ambulance guy in Japan has no medical training of any sort. They just pick you up and toss you in. I wonder if that's changed.

red_fists
02-06-2002, 10:31 PM
Daniel.

I tell you the 2 worst ones when I see you over here.

Don't want people plastering their Monitors & Keyboards with their supper. :p

Seeya.

Budokan
02-06-2002, 11:08 PM
That's very sad. I hope his little soul is in heaven now, and happy.

diego
02-07-2002, 12:54 AM
he wrote he left before he may have died, SO HE MAY STILL BE KICKING:)

respectmankind
02-07-2002, 01:04 AM
I knew a man, who was a great martial artists, best friends with my dad. He would do pushups all the way through a 2 hours movie, run 17 miles a day, and still managed to get the award for renting the most movies. One day, coming back from renting a video, some 16 year old kid took this fine specimen of a modern "no bull**** MA" and bound him to a wheel chair, removed his legs, and caused his face to look like a giant scar. The only reason he survived was because of his fitness.

Kristoffer
02-07-2002, 01:31 AM
d.amn :(

sticky fingers
02-07-2002, 05:58 AM
I saw a Shorinji Kempo demo at a MA exhibition at Osaka Gymnasium. Pardon my ignorance, but what's the difference between kempo and karate? From the demo I saw they both looked similar. I'm thinking of doing a non-striking art like judo, so my wing chun training will not get screwed up.

Wongsifu
02-07-2002, 06:06 AM
I saw the same thing about 2 years ago , i was driving behind this car and he suddenly swerved and broke , I was like what the !!! before i could finish i saw this body flying up in the air. I parked up and i could tell this kid had just mindlessly ran into the road he couldnt have been more than 10 years old. Any way the car hit him and he flew into the air really high and landed on the bonnet and then the floor. He wasnt dead but he had really bad concussion, i mean he was ****ing super lucky.

But the craziest i had ever seen was this bike get hit by a car and the bike flew up over the car with the driver still stuck on the bike, When i saw flew , this guy was a metre above the top of the car , upside-down still straddling the bike. He was **** lucky too all he did was mangle his knee a little bit.

All the more reason to learn iron body ... er no ???

GunnedDownAtrocity
02-07-2002, 08:32 AM
read the da mn paper man!!!

i hope that kid makes it and it would be nice to hear about it if he does. ****. if anything ever happened to my daughter i would take my own life by the most immediate means available. i could plunge a butcher knife through my heart sooner than i could live with that kind of pain. my only wish in this life is that my daughter outlives me. i don't even care how i die anymore . .. as long as it's before she does. i don't pray but i hope with all my heart that the kid makes it.

diego . .. jesus . . that fu cking sucks man.

diego
02-07-2002, 04:23 PM
What it was, i was a bully of a brother, and my moms gave me 2bucks to take her to the store, and i had my own little stash money, plus milk money, so i'm carrying heavy groceries, still a kid and my sis is dragging her feet, and im *****ing.....

i got like ten feet ahead of her, looked back,, finished crossing the street, with my youngest sister, started yelling at the other sis, looked away and boom

she is fine now, ILL THING about it, i had just opened my eggnog as it was almost christmas" it wasnt chocolate milk", had like two sips, and dropped the ****, when i had to run the two blocks home to get my stepdad, as the bystanders watched my sister, has to be a good lesson inthat for the youth, such as DONT BE A WHINY ****, PAY ATTENTION TO THE TASK AT HAND, NOT YOUR SWEETS


kinda like the kf ideology of eat bitter, " RIGHT QEYSUS= EVEN IF IT IS CARROTS, MIGHT KEEP YOU FROM SHOWING THE DOCTOR, PUSSLUMPS FROM SCURVY...." :)

diego
02-07-2002, 04:41 PM
i was 8, my cousins gave me thier old bmx for my birthday, so im biking with my older bro and his crew, all day enjoying my new bike.
I get to fourth street as i lived on third, and thier was this steep ass hill. My bike only had footbreaks.... so i'm flying down this hill, and half way start applying the breaks, but they slipping, then they don't work, im watching the intersection rollup, go through the east-lane, and this ****ing caddillac is crossing the west lane,"as im flying south"

that caddy was lime green or sky blue??/////&LONG AS ****,
I hit the side-back bumper, flipped over the trunk with my bike and landed 5 feet? from where i hit, and about four feet from the curb....
Open my eyes slightly sit-up/ look at my bike and am just like **** my bike, drag the mangled frame to the curb then just lay thier in exhaustion."ALL I COULD THINK ABOUT WAS MY NEW BIKE, Wich i only had for the morning and early-afernoon" All i had was a 6inch minifootball bruise on my right shin, it was huge, BUT FUNNY considering i was only 5-5 120 soaking wet, and flipped over the caddy, and all i could think was, **** my new bike.



Didnt get a bike for two more years, "legally" then on my tenth birthday i got a tenspeed, rode that all day, get home, across the street not thirty feet from THE INTERSECTION, and thier was glass on the sidewalk, so i rode happily all day then i got a flat, couldnt pay to get it fixed for a month, AS I SIAD DIDNT HAVE A BIKE LEGALLY FOR TWO YEARS, don't know what happenned to that one, older bros friend prolly stole it.:confused: :mad: :rolleyes: :)

tsunami surfer
02-08-2002, 07:36 AM
Northern mantis, sorry you had to see something so horrific. As an EMT I see this alot. What you are feeling is very real and normal so dont feel bad about your feelings. Talk it out with a mature adult who you trust. Most of the time I can just talk to certain teammates of mine when something like that upsets me but I really get upset when childern are hurt whether accidental or intentional and it just tears me up inside( thats because I have 2 sons). Hope this kid makes it.

NorthernMantis
02-08-2002, 08:21 PM
Well I just heard yesterday morning that the boy died in the hospital:( .


It took me a while to get over the shock of seeing such a thing.

I feel so bad for the mother who arrived minutes later and the grandmother who came later at night and found out about the whole thing.

The reason why I haven't posted since then is because I haven't had the time to get online much or I could have posted this days ago.

Ryu-

I 'm faring much better now, I'm more sad for the family actually.That poor boy never had a chance.It is traumatizing at first but I knew I had to move on and at least make peole aware of such things so it wont happen in the future.

qeySuS
02-08-2002, 08:46 PM
****it that is horrible, i was hoping he'd survived since yuo werent sure if he did or not :(

Sad thing it is.

DelicateSound
02-10-2002, 03:18 PM
About a year ago I was coming out of a pub in the high-street, and there is a fast one-way ringroad that loops my town. Me and a mate were crossing over, just in front of a bus-stop, with about 10 other people. It was a good night, and we were in party mood and although the vision of the road was obscured by the bus I though "F*ck it, I'm running". I went to run across and something just told me not to, I stepped back onto the kerb, turned around to see a woman get hit by a BMW.

Really bad sh!t, hit her at about 40, she flew over the top. Everyone there just froze dead, the whole place just really quiet - I can't describe it, it was like everything was in slow-motion. The driver, she was shaking, and no-one knew what to do.

It took me about 15 seconds till I reached for my mobile and called it in. By this time everyone was crowding round, a guy was doing First Aid, and my mate gave his jacket to cover her up.

After about 15 mins we were sat in The Star, and I just thought, "If I'd have ran, that'd be me". Sounds selfish but F*CK! Whole thing happened 10 yards away from me. Really f*cked me up big time.

N.Mantis: We both same age almost, and KungFu Catholics :) I found the best way to deal with it was to put it down to pure chance, and to pray a hell of a lot. Talk it over. Me and my mate had a lot of talking to do. Best way IMHO.