Attn : Biu Ji

[cha kuen]

Hi,

Who do you train with? I tried to ask you from my horsestance post. I can tell your sifu knows what he is doing.

[BIU JI]

Sorry to miss your post. I train under Fierce Tiger in the Yau Kung Mun system. I left my previous teacher for just that reason , I feel lucky to find a teacher who truly understands the art the way it was designed and not just understand but can demonstr ate it.
The stance is continuosly reenforced as a main power source and we do alot of drills focusing on stance.I've seen supposed "sifu's" who have talked the talk but when it came to demonstrate didn't come anywhere close to what they say , so am of the opinion there aren't too many teachers living up to their claims. Sounds arrogant but I've yet to see students either that look like they've been trained with any real understanding of how to use the stances properly.
Just a quick reply haha, what system do you do?æ ;)

[Rolling Elbow]

Well ****..,

It is a small world...let us know what FT is capable of and his skill caliber, I am sure there are allot of non believers on this forum who would think your post was written by FT himself.

I'm still down with FT and Bak Mei though, he seems cool once you get passed the initial antics.

Michael Panzerotti
Taijutsu Nobody from the Great White North..

[vingtsunstudent]

yes, i am actually looking foward to meeting FT one day, especially after the bagging he gave me & wing chun ;)
due to his years more training than me he had better not let me down with his abilities ;)
i can't believe after all he said, i now find out he only lives a couple of hrs away from me in sydney. :D
vts

[fiercest tiger]

hey, did you get one of my post to email me so we can hook up?

that bagging was all in fun when i was ft at the start. like i said i know your old sifu andy we are good friends he told me about you, so i stopped all the sh!t. anyway i am looking forward to talking and such. ;)

email me.

peace

bakmeimonk@hotmail.com

[BIU JI]

Rolling Elbow you are quick off the mark aren't you , this is not the first time I've posted who my sifu is. After your reguests before for a profile you don't have the decency to even read them.Take your bulls**t else where if you're going to start.
Vingtsun- My previous teacher was also Andy Truong , when you training under him??

[DreamLover]

Who the hell is andy truong??? and why is everyone from FT from andy truong???

[BIU JI]

"I am sure there are alot of nonbelievers on this forum who think your post was written by FT himself" "I'm still down with FT and Bakmei", what was that at the end ? Coming close to insult and then quickly covering your ass?!
"let us know what FT is capable of and his skill caliber" well you're so f***ing educated why don't you tell us ! Do you have anything to say about stances or just here to rub yourself again? :mad:

[BIU JI]

Wulin, learn to f***ing read you moron , since when is everyone from FT from Andy Truong , where is that written you twit. Vingtsun said he is a previous student of Andy (he is not studying under FT) I too am Andy's previous student.You too take your useless input else where.Ω

[DreamLover]

FT teaches KF but not morality! sorry for misunderstanding so who is Andy Truong ??

[DreamLover]

It is hard to tell that we are sitting on the donkey until it is too late and have reached the wrong destination for a second time!!!

[BIU JI]

Well you know what you can do with your donkey for the secound time.
Cha Kuen- sorry to turn your post into this **** sling, I find it difficult to try to discuss anything with these fools. Sensitivity needs to be trained with stances as well as the bridge as your legs are bridges as well, grounding ,locking unlock , trapping , trip , grind stomp all while trying to strike with the arms or shoulder. The whole body needs to have that instant recognition of your opponent and his intention.Ï

[Rolling Elbow]

Maybe we should have a word with FT to tell him to calm his students down! FT and I email each other now and again and get on quite well now. I actually think he has quite allot to offer to those who want to learn. The guy knows his stuff.

Bak Mei looks like an awesome system, and I have been trying to collect more info on it as I go along..all I was asking is that you let us know what FT's abilities are really like because there are many people on the board who think he is full of crap.

P.S- I don't need to cover my ass, I am in Canada you are in Australia, even if i were being an ass**le, do you think I would worry about you all the way down in the under belly of the world? Not likely..., relax cat.

P.S- I highly doubt I would come to a site like this if i wanted to "rub myself" don't you? I'd be better off going to <A HREF="http://www."name" TARGET="_blank">www."name</A> of porn site of choice".com.

Michael Panzerotti
Taijutsu Nobody from the Great White North..

[meltdawn]

WuLin writes:
"It is hard to tell that we are sitting on the donkey until it is too late and have reached the wrong destination for a second time!!!"

I am laughing so hard my guts are spilling onto the floor!!!! Keep up the good work!!! That was priceless!!! Well, uhhh, I actually own a donkey...

I LOVE to see you FT/YKM people ****ed off FINALLY. Ahhh, it reminds me of those bygone posts when FT first reared his ugly head... those were the days... agtagonism, hatred, posturing, gender-profaning. As Bill the Cat would say "Pfffththtttttt!!!"

You all have proven one thing to me, that YKM is indeed effective: you guys have scared away the hung gar and southern mantis infighting. I didn't think I could be done!

"Waiting is bad." - Musashi

[fiercest tiger]

bui ji- rolling elbow and i talk by email, dont get too hot too quick. he is cool and we get along. he didnt mean anything by it.

wulinlegend- do we know each other? please come forward and tell us where you teach or study? we are all out in the open so why the secrets.

sifu andy troung is a bak mei and dragon, jow gar master his knowledge is one of the best in oz. he knows his sh!t too. him and i talk everyday and he is a close friend of myself and he is the same generation sifu as myself. apart from the styles he teaches he knows vietnamese wing chun and many more.

everyone has to let things go, its all talk. meltdawn is right, when i first come on i caused alot of trouble and found it backfired and didnt do me any good. i was telling what i was told, they werent lies but it shouldnt of been said.

so lets talk some kung fu and stop the bickering. :rolleyes:

peace

bakmeimonk@hotmail.com

[DreamLover]

I am just a student .... Far from teaching what gave you the idea that i teach ?
Thank for showing some calmness and humble respect. I see that you have turned a leaf only time for the students now.
Never heard of Andy Truong, is he very old, also if he is your friend as such why so you have his students displeased. Same generation! what is this mean?

[fiercest tiger]

my students reacts to insults, since you have come on you have insulted many. they are only protecting with pride, the system. like we all do on here, we have all got something to say and we all get ****ed off. ill stick by my student as they do with me. dont take offence to that!

sifu andy teaches differently to me, i did not take sifu andy's students as they ask him for permission. thats the way i am, respectful to him as he has also taught me many things and still does.

you also have an attitude and humour but when you get on and bag it starts ww3. maybe your sifu should teach you some morality ;) .

are you going to tell us who your sifu is, and what style do you train? it helps when we all can talk kung fu with respect rather arguing about who and what style is better. dont you think so? :p

peace

bakmeimonk@hotmail.com

[meltdawn]

Bui Ji:

"My previous teacher was also Andy Truong"
and
"I left my previous teacher for just that reason , I feel lucky to find a teacher who truly understands the art the way it was designed and not just understand but can demonstr ate it."

FT:
"sifu andy troung is a bak mei and dragon, jow gar master his knowledge is one of the best in oz. he knows his sh!t too. him and i talk everyday and he is a close friend of myself"

Anyone care to explain this contradiction?

"Waiting is bad." - Musashi

[DreamLover]

You asked so I'll answer

My Sifu is Liu Hong Chi
My Style is Hung Gar & Zha Quan

[BIU JI]

Rolling Elbow- ok I appolagise for flying off the handle but honestly what do you exactly want me to say about FT's ability, only his knowledge and hard training methods were enough to make me leave my previous teacher of almost 4 years to study under him and as you can see have become devoted to him as my sifu and the YKM system. Granted alittle aggressive at times but comes with the nature of YKM's system. Take aside spiritual aspects the system itself just keeps going until it's finished. I'd be the first one to admit more meditation is needed to calm things down abit . I certainly will try to hold the lashings back, most of the students tend be alittle like this also, I pity someone coming in to challenge, YKM has a strong reputation in Sydney to uphold.
Wulin - what do you mean by displeased students?All your posts before were absolutely insultive towards YKM and now you try play somewhat nice guy, what next you start to bag Andy who isn't even on the forum , such s joke you are .

[fiercest tiger]

sifu andy knows his sh!t, but i teach in a different way. i get my message across differently to him. but we still teach similar concept and stuff.

are you telling me that you havent seen a teacher of your style teach differently and say hey, that was some good sh!t! it all depends on how and what you learn from people, but sifu andy is a very good kung fu master.

why are you upset for? :(

peace

bakmeimonk@hotmail.com

[BIU JI]

I understand what you mean. That comment was made in the same pargragh as my comments towards seeing some sifus who don't live up to their claims. I did not refer that towards Andy , in that post I know it looked that way , thank you I was wondering if so meone would pick that up. FT often came to the school to share his knowledge and training methods, at the time I was studying Dragon, foot work is similar body posture etc and enjoyed the input from FT . After awhile I prefered his teaching a became interested in YKM so made to change. It wasn't an easy decision to make as I'd been with Wahnam(schools name) for almost 4 years but I've never looked back. I'm glad I studied under Andy as I learnt a great deal. I started with Jow Gar Hung Gar and progressed to Dragon and alittle Pakmei . When I made the change FT told I would have to it the traditional way and ask Andy first , if he said no he would not train me , I asked and the rest is history. Does that clear it up abit for you?› ;) ›

[illusionfist]

wu lin- what is your hung gar lineage? Who did your sifu study under?

Peace :D

[DreamLover]

Not sure at the top but generations are :

1. Huang Guo Long
2. Chen Fu Nan
3. Pang Kang Yi
4. Liu Hong Chi

Our first set is three battles followed by tiger fist, two dragons out to sea...

[illusionfist]

The stuff that you mentioned sounds like wuzuquan (at least the three battles), i was talking about the hung gar.

[DreamLover]

There is 3 Battles in Hung Kuen it resembles some fundamentals of Tit Sin Kuen (That is there also).
This is mainland china related.
Hung Gar that you refer to is Popular Hung Gar with the standard 4 pillars. Hung Kuen differs although it is still Hung Gar

[illusionfist]

wu lin- so where did this originate, did it start with hung hei gun's line?

Peace :D

[DreamLover]

Teachers believe that the following occurred with Hung Gar.

Hung Hei Gun studied with Chi San Sim See then left to join rebellion and rest involving red boats or whatever then Luk A Choy studied with Chi Sim (different to Hung Hei Gun as everyone was different). Something like then Luk a choy left to join hung but never really happened but people knew they were brothers, and respected him as so. Chi San had developed his art further as did hung hei gun, they met up after the destruction of sth shaolin but rather did live a hidden life away from the red boats. Luk a choy remained in that area and ended up with Wong Family. Wong family learned this and developed it wonderfully to the beauty that popular hung gar is today but hung hei guns is supposedly separate, thus the Hay say fu's of Wing lam the Hung kuens of guangdong and the rest. It is thought that these other hung kuens belong to a shaolin kuen added and expanding hung hei guns. whereas those knowing hung hei guns original art would be luk a choy associates remaining on the red boats (ie the fundamental tiger taming sets).


Please note that many arts are called Hung Kuen even though they may be some other shaolin art.

[vingtsunstudent]

to answer some questions that were asked.
i studied with andy close to 5 years ago, it was when he was teaching at the central coast, the only reason i stopped was because it was not economically viable for him to continue.
i did only jow gar .
he is one of the only sifus i have seen to not only be able to use such low stances in the forms but also when showing how to fight with them, most who train in these low stances actually end up looking moe like kickboxers when they spar or fight, also many of them will tell you that these stances are only for training but i think it has more to do with the fact that they just haven't trained hard enough or long enough.
andy is a sifu almost beyond words, he is frienly, open to share & just one hell of a good guy that knows his .
illusion fist you may want to find his e-mail as his hung gar is of the hung hei kwan lineage & not the wong fei hong(try a search for wahnam kung fu) i am sure he would be glad to discuss his lineage with you as he very open & friendly.
if what bui ji says is true, that ft is as good as andy then i would argue that no matter how rude ft originally was it is a case that he must know his .
vts

[DreamLover]

I doubt andy's Hung gar lineage being of Chow Gar descent (I checked the page)

[vingtsunstudent]

what are you on about, chow gar?
his version doesn't contain the tiger/crane that was added by wong fei hung.
vts

[DreamLover]

well his site says that he has 3 teachers Dragon, Bak Mei and Chow Gar.
Chow Gar being from Chow Biu, that is not Hung Kuen related and in fact **** it, it does have tiger and crane.
the site does not mention any hung gar/kuens of any kind!!!!

[vingtsunstudent]

i think you mean jow gar(chow gar is generally a reference to southern mantis?) & his site also doesn't list that he knows a viet. version of wing chun either.
sometimes you have to know someone personally to have any idea of what they actually know.
take you for example- sometimes you reply like an f-wit but you may actually be a nice person, until we meet face to face we may never know.
do you now understand?
vts

[fiercest tiger]

vingstun is correct, sifu andy has the oldest hung gar and jow gar, bak mei ,dragon and wing chun, i think he has some mok gar and hung fut as well so dont judge a book by its cover.

illusion fist should email sifu andy if interested in hung gar.

wahnam50@hotmail.comk.au

i think thats right. ;)

peace

bakmeimonk@hotmail.com

[DreamLover]

Has some ...what does this mean and where did he get it??? as such

[fiercest tiger]

we have spoke about these arts it could be choy mok, he is vietnamese born, so he goes back and forth plus goes to china.

dont take my word for it email him! :rolleyes:

peace

bakmeimonk@hotmail.com

[DreamLover]

I thought you said you are pals or something, wouldn't you know.
Anyway will email him some time soon if not

I guess you are not that close then

[fiercest tiger]

i thought you where were over this **** wulinlegend, anyway watch your back!!!

im a lot closer than what you think!

he teachers hung gar, jow gar, bak mei, dragon, he knows wing chun and choy gar.

see ya around..

peace

bakmeimonk@hotmail.com

[DreamLover]

The fury postponed but not erradicated, the Taoist Priest though he may, though certainly he is not upon the true way

Dao is in the heart but yours is in your butt

Anyway
Luv and Farewell
Henry

[qy]

hehe you are soo looked up to. Thats what you want right? RESPECT from the other members here? I do think you are prolly happy with all the attention you are getting. I can't help myself as I have been amused with you since I first met you as what was it? Bak Fu Choy? So many I can't keep up. But once again thanks for the amusement

[fiercest tiger]

well im sad to see you leave once again, but to come back as someone else.

thanks for nothing.

peace

bakmeimonk@hotmail.com

[qy]

I'll bet he is running out of ideas and faux personalities. Or maybe a new forum game....Name that Troll. "I can name that Troll in 1 post" :rolleyes:

[fiercest tiger]

i know what you mean!

unfortunately we cannot find where these trolls live. jack of all trades master of none!

peace

bakmeimonk@hotmail.com

[DreamLover]

The Last Post :

How about this for analysis

Qy maybe wife of MoQ (guess it is in the Q)
Bastet wife of Fierce Tiger (Its in the love she shows)
Fierce Tiger is probably a crazy croc dundee with tatoos and stuff proclaiming to be Daoist.
MoQ is some geeky dude who learned not much but professes to own the forum in a way for being here so long and trying to demolish all those with claims better than his own, as if to satisfy his own ego


PS : Legendary is the key, love for both you and me, know what you do not care for what you believe.

[BIU JI]

Wulin - keep it coming or maybe just sing me a song in Korean huh!
It's coming to a cinema near you soon .

[DreamLover]

Sarang he ne oi kup dua !!!

Hehehe you like :)

Luv you as always

[BIU JI]

I love you too. Do you know why? Because I'm going to enjoy watching your face go from dog s**t brown to dog s**t white when I'm standing in front of you while you try to explain yourself . Can you stay upright when doing forms fatty, dought it . :D

[cha kuen]

My post has turned in the direction of korean pop. Do you guys listen to "Candy" by H.O.T.? =]

[Kevin Barkman]

Hi Biu Ji,

I just saw Sifu Truong's website - very impressive! I am just curious how long you studied Dragon Style for (I see he teaches other styles as well) If I may ask, what made you leave the style and learn YGM, or do you teach Lung Ying now yourself?

Also, do you know of any YGM schools in Canada?

Cheers - kevin

[BIU JI]

Mostly I was impressed by Sifu Hearfield's teaching method though I gained a great deal from Andy I found Sifu and YKM more attractive. Though I still practise my Dragon forms regularly I don't actually teach.
I wish to keep that to myself and in the future become YKM sifu myself. I found the change over not too difficult as I had a base in Dragon and some Pak mei I picked up YKM quickly and am now a senior student. I enjoy the energy of YKM , it's definately a strong system and the way we train is quite realistic with all the focus on using the forms to fight not resorting to kick boxing style.
As for schools in Canada I don't know mate , I'll get back to you on that one . There are several in the states but that probably doesn't help you. Are the beavers as bad there as they are in Arkansa? lol.

Beaver Bashers LTD :D

[Ross]

Kevin,

There is a YKM school in Vancouver and has been there for awhile from what I am told. Contact me if you want to discuss it.

R

[Xingxing Quan]

"I am laughing so hard my guts are spilling onto the floor!!!! Keep up the good work!!! That was priceless!!! Well, uhhh, I actually own a donkey..."

You never mentioned a donkey before. Ya think ya know someone, and they turn out to own a donkey. My god! What is this world coming to?

( ={P>

Brian

[meltdawn]

I can't give away ALL my secrets, now can I?

Now we'll have to tell everyone about our "Shao Tang 5 Animals System":

Panda
Lemur
Wombat
Orangutan
Donkey

"Waiting is bad." - Musashi