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FIRE HAWK
02-08-2002, 05:05 AM
You mentioned that Shaolin is famous for its 72 chin na techniques. Can you list them please? It is extremely rare to find a knowledgeable master to ask, and having found one I really would like to ask you.


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Different masters during the same or at different periods have different sets of 72 chin-na (qin-na) techniques. Mine are as follows. The pronunciation is in Cantonese, followed by its English translation. Because of cultural and linguistic differences, some names may sound funny, but in Chinese they are both poetic and meaningful.

1. tan fu chuit toong -- Single Tiger Emerges from Cave
2. hak fu sai jow -- Black Tiger Cleanses Claws
3. tai ma kwei choe -- Lead Horse Back to Stable
4. kam loong thow lea -- Golden Dragon Shoots Tongue
5. lo han fok fu -- Lohan Tames Tiger
6. wan sau yin jow -- Circling Hands Eagle Claws
7. tok kheuk thai kham -- Single Leggedly Lift Guitar
8. mei lui kow sar -- Beautiful Girl Turns Shuttle
9. sap tze khow sau -- Cross-roads Hand Locks
10. pak hou man chi -- White Ape Grips Branch
11. tai kung tiew yu -- Grand Old Man Catches Fish
12. kwan pheng pou yein -- Kwan Pheng Carries Insignia
13. ngo fu pang lan -- Hungry Tiger Leans against Fence
14. phat fu mei sei -- Pull a Tiger's Tail
15. chow chong fu mei -- Running with a Hidden Tiger's Tail
16. thien pheng sau fatt -- Hand Technique of a Balance
17. lou yin kham seai -- Old Eagle Catches Snake
18. lo han khaik ku -- Lohan Strikes Drum



"Carry Umbrella"
19. kam kong fok fu -- Immortal Tames Tiger
20. lan kong chit pa -- Block the Big Boss
21. yap hoi kham kow -- Enter Sea to Catch Monster
22. siew ping tham san -- Small Soldier Carries Umbrella
23. sin yein tham chai -- Immortal Carries Sticks
24. see ku tham san -- Nun Carries Umbrella
25. chor seong thok cheong -- Sitting Double Lifting Palms
26. seong loong fok kow -- Double Dragons Subdue Monster
27. yok lui choi fa -- Jade Girl Plucks Flower
28. yein foong whet lou -- Bending Willow in the Wind
29. chin see sau fatt -- Cocoon Hand Technique
30. fan chin see sau -- Counter against Cocoon Hand
31. fok teai choi fa -- Squarting to Pluck Flower
32. kok kow kap pan -- Immortal Plays Clappers
33. kam tong lei fatt -- Golden Boy Worship Buddha
34. fok teai ow lin -- Squarting to Bend Lotus
35. kam kai sor hou -- Golden ****eral Locks Throat
36. yin jow kham loong -- Eagle Claw Catches Dragon
37. seong loong pou chui -- Double Dragons Carry Pearl
38. ku shue fan kein -- Rotten Tree Exposes Roots
39. kam sin thiew lou -- Golden Thread Hangs Gould
40. fok teai sor hou -- Squarting to Lock Throat
41. kam see phan mei -- Golden Bird Grips Eye-Brow
42. ngo yin pok shek -- Hungry Eagle Charges at Prey
43. lou chang mo mai -- Old Monk Grinds Rice
44. ling hou chak kor -- Spiritual Monkey Plucks Fruit
45. seong kung pou yuit -- Double Bows Carry Moon
46. seong loong hei shui -- Double Dragons Play with Water
47. tou seet ngo mei -- Reverse showing of Bull's Tail
48. khay loong choi kein -- Riding a Dragon to Pull Tendons
49. yi fu hong loong -- Two Tigers Subdue Dragon
50. mang fu fok teai -- Fierce Tiger Crouches on Ground
51. ngo fu thui chow -- Hungry Tiger Retreat from Den
52. siew kwai thuit heur -- Little Devil Removes Shoes
53. pak yun sheong shue -- White Ape Ascends Tree
54. pak hou kham chi -- White Monkey Catches Boar
55. hou tze thou thow -- Monkey Steals Plum
56. yip tai thou thow -- Stealing Plums Under Leaves
57. sin yein chak kair -- Immortal Plucks Tomatoes
58. hoi teai lau yuit -- Bail Moon from Sea Bed
59. san choong kham fu -- Catch Tiger in Mountain
60. yip teai choi lin -- Under Leaf Pluck Lotus
61. khan sun fu jow -- Near Body Tiger Claw
62. yi ku na cham -- Second Auntie Grips Crab
63. pak fu hein jow -- White Tiger Present Claws
64. mang fu sai jow -- Fierce Tigers Cleanses Claws
65. hak fu tong moon -- Black Tiger Guards Door
66.cheong khun tai ma -- General Leads Horse
67. lo han pou fatt -- Lohan Embraces Buddha
68. tong ping lau hak -- Tang Soldier Keeps Guest
69. fok fu thean foong -- Tame Tiger Listen to Winds
70. mang fu foo yu -- Fierce Tiger Crouching at Clif
71. mang fu ha san -- Fierce Tiger Descends Mountain
72. ngo fu kham yeong -- Fierce Tiger Catches Goat


Chin-na is a special combat technique uniquely found in kungfu. As far as I know it is not found in other martial arts. Amongst the various kungfu styles, some chin-na is found in Taijiquan, but not in Baguazhang or Xingyiquan (the other two of the three famous internal styles kungfu). It is in Shaolin that chi-na is most famous.

Chin-na is qualitatively different from holds and locks, although they may appear similar and many people are mistaken over them. When a person holds or locks an opponent, he himself is also indirectly immobilized, because as soon as he releases the hold or lock, the opponent is free to attack again. But not in chin-na.

Once you have successfully applied chin-na on an opponent, you can release him but he would have lost much of his fighting ability. Generally the damage is only temporary -- long enough for you to walk comfortably away -- and the opponent can return home to repair the damage and be wholesome again. It is therefore in line with the Shaolin teaching of compassion.

Some examples of chin-na are illustrated in this webpage. In the first example, My senior student, Goh Kok Hin, holds my right arm from behind. I bend my right arm and turn left-around, immbolize Kok Hin's arms using with my right hand and left elbow, and grip Kok Hin's throat with my left thumb and index finger, using the pattern "Golden ****eral Locks Throat".

In the next example, Kok Hin holds my right arm and with his right shin kicks at my left ribs. I move my right leg a big step backward to stand at the left bow-arrow stance to avoid the kick. Using a circular movement I release Kok Hin's hold on my right arm, and immediately grip his right knee with my left tiger-claw, and his right ankle with my right tiger-claw in a pattern called "Nun Carries Umbrella".

CrushingFist
02-08-2002, 01:55 PM
are you speaking about shaolin styles that have had influence of the temple or the northern shaolin style in itself?
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FIRE HAWK
02-09-2002, 03:52 AM
This is talking about the 72 Shaolin Chin Na or Qin Na techniques with there names that sifu Wong Kiew kitt learned from his sifus.He knows Hung gar wich he calls southern shaolin, Wing chun and Tai Chi and other arts .These 72 Chin Na (Qin Na) techniques come from his southern shaolin style.