Hong Gia

[woliveri]

Anyone heard of or practiced this art?

<A HREF="http://hong-gia.org/" TARGET="_blank">http://hong-gia.org/</A>

Thanks

Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East
By Baird T. Spalding

[DreamLover]

That is simply the Vietnamese inherited version of Hung Kuen (Mainland's Hung Gar, similar to but different from HaySayFu). Probably better than many other Hunggar stuff around. Sounds very good, I'd check it out.

[Tru-MA]

Hi there. I live near that school. It's about a 5 minute walk from my house. You sure that that's Hung Gar? The website says that it's an internal martial art. But I thought that Hung Gar was external? Ah well, hey, woliveri, I'll check it out for you since it's so close to my house, and I'll report back for if it's good or if it sucks.

[DreamLover]

La Phu Son - Lao Hu Shan
It is the internal Wujiquan (of Wudang internal)combined with
Hong Gia - Hong Jia
The hong system of sth china that emphasises 5 animals andheaps of internal methods as well amazing methods.

[Killah-B]

I have a friend at my job whose Vietnamese and claims his wifes uncle in Ca. knows this style.He trained Hung gar himself and says it doesn't resemble nor has anything to do with Hunggar.

[Brad]

It say's HONG Gia not HUNG Gia. I don't think it has anything to do with Hung Gar.

[Brad]

Does anyone else think that's a creepy lookin' picture? Look at his chest!

[Erasmus Lightstone]

Hi,

I was very confused too!! Because I studied a style called Hong CHA. The sifu said it was Shaolin 5 animal kung fu and the "sister style" to Hung Gar. I've gotten responses from some that Hong is the Mandarin way of pronouncing Hung and that CHA is the phonetical pronunciation for the word Jia or Gar. What caused me to raise an eyebrow was the when I studied it-the Sifu(Jan Miller) said that it was a Southern Shaolin 5 animal system--while now I hear that he is still teaching and he lists it as a NORTHERN Shaolin 5 animal style. I didn't think that Northern Shaolin even had the 5 animals? I know nothing about Vietnam or anything--but I'd be VERY interested in hearing anyone elses experiences. Thanks. Signed-feeling cheated and looking to study a real style(Wing Chun,Eagle Claw) that people have HEARD of!

[Brad]

Thought this might help.

From Kungfu Mgazine January 2000 (top 100 styles):

"Hong Quan(Red Fist): Not to be confused with Hung Gar, this is a Northern long fist school that is often synonymous with Shaolin. It's origin is unclear, but some attribute it to Song Taizu, the first Song emperor. Others believe that the word Hong is used because as an analogy to 'bright' or 'good looking'. Because of this ambiguity and the overlap with the popular Southern style Hung Gar, this has been one of the most muddled terms in Kungfu. Hong Quan focuses on absorbing the adversary's energy with a soft outside and a hard inside. Many of it's forms are an important part of the Shaolin Temple curriculum."

[DreamLover]

There is about 15 different Hong Quan, gees whats this cut and paste crap.
Hung gar around the world (Popular) is **** Luk a chois shaolin
Hay Say Fu of wing lam is some other stuff
Hung Kuen is again different.
etc...go ask them based on five animals of course I know my friend is a vietnamese martial artist and knows this gees!!!!

[Erasmus Lightstone]

Dear Wu Win,

Thank you for your knowledge. In your first post you claim it is the Southern Shaolin 5-animal,etc. Are you saying that Hong Jia is in fact Hung Gar? I'm sorry to be redundant-but I have heard a few different opinions on this. I have read that Yuen Yik Kai is a master of "5 animal Hung Kuen"(arrrrgggh!! yet MORE confusion)

[woliveri]

I have visited the school and the price is right
(around 30.00 or so a month) but didn't know of
the quality or history. I would be interested in
what Tru-MA finds out.

Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East
By Baird T. Spalding

[HungGar123]

I think hong gia is hung gar. The only different is just the spelling, isnt it?

Hung Gar is the best...

[Erasmus Lightstone]

Tru Ma-

Can you please tell me where in California the school is located? I would be interested in contacting them to know more info and wether or not their Hong Gia is in fact the same Hong Cha that I learned. My e-mail adress is: Healerprophet@aol.com Regards

[GeneChing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afcJldAjYLE

When are MMA challengers gonna fight people their own age? This Hong Gia 'Kung Fu Fighter' must have two decades on him at least... :rolleyes:

[David Jamieson]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afcJldAjYLE

When are MMA challengers gonna fight people their own age? This Hong Gia 'Kung Fu Fighter' must have two decades on him at least... :rolleyes:

To be fair, the older fella should have known himself better.
Also, keep ya hands up!

Musashi was right when he said "you will fight like you practice".

Regular sparring free style helps a lot.

.02 :)

[GeneChing]

To be fair, the older fella should have known himself better.
Also, keep ya hands up!


I don't know how these older guys get suckered into these sorts of challenge matches. It's so dumb and tone deaf.

I got that ol' 'touch your forehead' drilled into me when I dabbled in Muay Thai in Bangkok. I only trained for a week there - in some cheap local gym - just for bragging rights. However they drove that lesson home so whenever I get tired, I have that reflex now.

I stumbled on this Hong Gia site recently and figured it might add to the resource of this thread:


7/24/201618:43(View: 11753)
Hong-Gia Viet-Nam (La-Phu-Son) (https://www.honggiavietnam.com/a44/hong-gia-viet-nam-la-phu-son-)

https://www.honggiavietnam.com/images/file/ku1q5y200wgBAOhO/hong-gia-viet-nam-great-grand-master.jpg
Great Grand Master

Hong Gia Viet Nam La-Phu-Son is an ancient Taoist internal Kung Fu based upon Wu Chi (the essentials of Tai Chi, Hsing-I, and Pa Kua) and Nga Mi (Beautiful Eyebrow). It utilizes Noi Cong (nei kung), Chi Kung, and fighting movements so that students can develop (in order) health, strength, and self-defense.

https://www.honggiavietnam.com/images/file/NQxq6C200wgBAEU_/w300/hong-gia-viet-nam-la-phu-son-mountain.jpg
La Phu Son Mountain

As an "internal" martial art it strives to obtain great speed and power with minimal physical effort by utilzing the tendons, chi, and body position. As in other internal styles, Hong Gia utilizes the five elements (Water, Earth, Wood, Fire, and Metal) and mimics the movements of many animals, the primary animals being Crane, Dragon, Tiger, Snake, and Leopard.

The original monastery was originally on La Phu mountain (La Phu Son) in an area that was formerly North East Vietnam. The area is now considered part of the New Territories of China and the mountain is called Lou-fu Shan and is approximately 6 miles NNW of Kowloon and Hong Kong.

https://www.honggiavietnam.com/images/file/BGJk6S200wgBAKRE/hong-gia-viet-nam-su-huynh-duc-vn.jpg
Su Huynh Duc VN

The image above shows one of the students demonstrating the "Dragon Face". By tensing his tendons he makes the face of a dragon appear on his chest and abdomen. The bottom half of the face is covered by his sash, but the horns and eyes are clearly visible.

The new World Headquarters for Hong Gia La Phu Son is located at Little Saigon, California, USA. This location is run by master Ly Hong Thai. There are approximately two million students around the world.



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