Shan Tung, black tiger

[Blue Dragon]

Do anyone of you know where I can read more about or learn the Black Tiger kung-fu style? :confused:
I found some ifno about it and tried to search for more but there´s very little written on it... or maybe I´m just not good at searching for things :rolleyes:
Thankful for answers...

-Blue Dragon-

[FIRE HAWK]

Do you have the Shantung Black Tiger Book called Shantung Black Tiger a Shaolin Fighting Art of North China ? There really is not that much on the internet about Shantung Black Tiger believe me i have looked for three years not very much .But there was topics on this forum about the style maybe if you do a search on the kung fu online search engine you might find them if they have not been deleted .There are some people on here who might know some about it they practice the southern Black Tiger style .What part of the world do you live in ?

[FIRE HAWK]

Shantung Black Tiger

Tiger Enters
Preparation
Tiger Seeks
Tiger Scratches the Earth
Tiger Looks up
Tiger Escapes
Tiger Victorious
Tiger Snares
Hungry Tiger
Tiger Steps over the log
Tiger Pushes
Tiger Pitches
Tiger Claws back
Tiger Claws forward w/knee
Forearm Strike
Tiger Strikes
Tiger Drags
Tiger Twitches his tail
Tiger Steps up
Tiger Begins to fly
Tiger Starts its path
Tiger Stacks
Tiger Reaches for Heaven
Tiger Begins to Float
Tiger Climbs Tree
Tiger Pounces on Prey
Tiger Ensnares Bird
Tiger Sneaks in
Tiger Falls in the River
Tiger Looks Back
Tiger Shovels
Tiger Reaches Back
Tiger Leaps
Tiger Uproots Bamboo
Tiger Opens
Tiger Lifts its Head
Tiger Makes its Bed
Right Evading Open/Close Door
Left Evading Open/Close Door
Right Advancing Open/Close Door
Left Advancing Open/Close Door
Left Tiger Tail Kick
Right Evading Open/Close Door
Left Advancing Open/Close Door
Right Tiger Tail Kick
Tiger Pawing at Chest
Elbow Strike
Tiger Coming out of its Cave
Tiger Offers its Paws
Tiger Plays
Tiger Going Through the Woods
Tiger Stretches
Tiger Pitches (Left)
Tiger Jumps
Tiger Dives in the River
Tiger Lifts its Legs
Tiger Traps
Tiger Holds
Tiger Switches
Tiger Stretches Leg
Tiger Pulls
Tiger Holds its Prey
Evading Open & Close Door (Right)
Evading Open & Close Door (Left)
Tiger Rolls in the Dirt
Tiger Stomps its Feet
Tiger Grabs
Tiger Falls Back
Tiger Kicks Back
Tiger Captures Lamb
Tiger Tail Kick (Left)
Tiger Lunges
Tiger Lifts
Tiger Curls Up
Tiger Stomps its Feet (Left)
Tiger Advances(Right)
Tiger Advances (Left)
Tiger Stretches Leg
Tiger Strikes
Tiger Uses its Claws (Right)
Tiger Uses its Claws (Left)
Tiger Evades
Tiger Jumps Back
Tiger Embraces the Earth
Tiger Uses the Forest
Tiger Hooks its Leg
Tiger Shifts its Weight
Tiger Closes
http://www.shaolinkungfu.org/members/blacktiger.asp

[FIRE HAWK]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Shantung+Black+Tiger&btnG=Google+Search

[Blue Dragon]

Thank You for the info.
I have just ordered the book you mentioned, and I´m expected to have it in about 2-3 weeks.
I live in Vasa, Finland, and the only Kung-Fu styles you can pratice here are Choy-Lay Fut, Shaolin Wushu and Wing-Chun.
I read a lot about Kung-Fu and I just got interrested in this style... But no mather how much I look, I can´t find anything about it...

Thank You again for the info.

-Blue Dragon-

[jon]

I have the book you guys are talking about...
Its not a bad book though doesnt really have much about the history of black tiger but instead a large history of general kung fu.
It does however have a compleate form and has it broken down to classical and modern application, quite how they made that distiction im not sure.
It looks more like a typical northern system than the southern black tiger and it also seems to use more internal tactics and movements in some respects.
It is an internal\external system but the focus is on the softer side of the art. There [from the pics] seems to be a lot of circular motion and a lot of chin na. There is also many kicks and the form looks quite light on its feet compared to the typical southern styles.
If you want to ask a specific question ill do my best to give you an answer based purely on this book but any other information on that style is VERY hard to find. Plus as stated there is next to nothing on the history of the style or past masters.

My personal view on the style\book is tricky, some parts look like simple wushu to me but other parts actualy look like very legit and quite useable combat moves, particualy some of the hand play. The lack of any history or even where the author learnt the style also brings up red flags, but i guess i cant judge a book by its cover now can i;)
Basicaly it smells fishy yet looks quite workable, make of that what you wish.

[Leonidas]

Is this the same black tiger that got the named changed to Fu Jow Pai. Scratch that other part..........

[GOLDEN ARMOR]

No this is Northern Tiger (Shantung Black Tiger) that their talking about.

Blue Dragon, have u seen Choy Lee Fut. Because its got a lot of tiger in it & some of the intermediate forms r based on tiger eg. block tiger fist, taming the tiger, etc... in fact most all sets have all 5 animals. Also once u have passed the certain levels that r set up to get u ready for advanced. Then ur sifu will choose what animal that suits ur body type & u will specialise in that. Choy Lee Fut has a 5 & also 10 animal form u learn to. U should at least try out a class or watch the intermediate or advance train if they let u & u will get a idea of how they fight & if their any good. Theres a Chan family CLF school in finland & they also teach the internal side of CLF (Lohan Qigong) & i think Master Chan Yong Fa is going to finland this year to do a seminar.(check it out) CLF is a sthn. style but also has nthn. in it. Check out this website its the Sydney Hung Sing Gwoon Chan Family Clf headcourters.
www.clfma.com.au

[premier]

I agree with Golden armor on this. You should check out CLF. It's closest to what you're looking for in Finland. I should know because I practise CLF in Helsinki. The Vaasa school is probably one of ours. I'm not sure who's running the show there, but I guess it's the guys from Turku. Anyway, it's good stuff and you should check it out. It's better than trying to learn something from a book.


premier

[David Jamieson]

Black Tiger has a few styles that carry the name.
Shantung is considered a northern variation of the Shaolin Black Tiger.

Shaolin tiger style is deep as an ocean and as wide in it's offerings. The tiger flavour is found in almost every style of Chinese martial arts with some of the larger more popular styles being strongly grounded in Tiger.

Hung Gar has as it's original founding form, Gung Gee fook Fu or "Taming the Tiger" this is a pillar set of Hung Ga style still to this day.

Choy Li fut carries in its many branches plenty of tiger style.

Pak Mei is also considered a Tiger style. And there are a host of other styles too numerous to mention that are founded on or include many aspects of the Shaolin Tiger stylings.

My Si Fu teaches Southern Shaolin Black Tiger System from the Toisan District. Known as Hak Fu Pai (Black Tiger School), or Nam Sil Lum Hak Fu Pai.(South Shaolin Black Tiger School).

There is also the Shantung Black Tiger as mentioned.
Hark Fu Moon is a southern Black Tiger style. Fu Jow Pai (Tiger Claw School) is also a Black Tiger style.
There is also a contemporary Shaolin Black Tiger style. I think Gene might even have a video of that available at the site sponsors.

There are many Chinese martial arts, particularly those that owe their origins to Shaolin Temple, which have as major traits the Tiger techniques and flavours that were developed into fighting systems at the temple and developed there for centuries and finally disseminated to the public over time as masters went out into the world either to spread buddhist law, or because of persecution.

The Shaolin Temple having had quite a reputation and a good deal of power at times in it's history was a threat to some of the political leaders who came and went over the years.
-ergo the destructions of the temple that took place over some periods in its history.

These destructions set in motion the spread of some of the martial knowledge that was available there. Some of the monks taught others what they knew. Depending on what the monk knew and how long he had stayed at the temple would in turn, in some cases be spread to others. This created some of the more obscure and earlier styles which in turn were spread and exchanged by masters, once again over centuries.

However. Many of the styles,that are taught today are quite popular styles of martial arts to practice. And coincidently they trace ther origins to Shaolin or that the style was influenced by Shaolin styles or vice/versa.

Tiger is manifested in many systems as a powerful style of fighting, so much so that entire schools are "Tiger" style to this day.

peace