So please grow up and understand wing chun is not a computer game or a black and white result
Please stop with the silly insults and try to read what I am actually writing. For God's sake, I am even putting emphasis (highlights or italics) on words like before and during, so that there can't be any confusion.
Still flogging that dead horse. Put up or shut up, your opinions have zero credibility, your claims of sparring don't mesh with the questions you keep asking.