http://youtu.be/TxpH7oYsZ0I
I saw this video of Lin Tang Fang of Haiyang. Apparently his shifu was a disciple of Liang Xue Xiang, making it the oldest style of mantis. Does anyone know anything about this system? What makes up the syllabus?
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http://youtu.be/TxpH7oYsZ0I
I saw this video of Lin Tang Fang of Haiyang. Apparently his shifu was a disciple of Liang Xue Xiang, making it the oldest style of mantis. Does anyone know anything about this system? What makes up the syllabus?
Sifu Tolson,
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Hope your recovery is a sound one.
Regards,
LTN
Perhaps you should try contacting Ilya Profatilova for information. He was the speaker in the commentary.
Here is his website:
http://www.mantisboxing.msk.ru/
I would like to hear Robert Hui's take on the Beng bu being so similar to his own and what he deduces from that.
The form at 8:05 (and again at 9:50) reminds me of Roberts dan zhai mei hua form.
Zhao Zhuxi's mantis, apart what Ilya does here, is the only one that shoots out the double punches on a semi regular basis.
thanks for the info
here is another video, which shows a section of something called "fumu quan" and then what i think is the opening of bengbu. just ignore the beginning where they are talking about the words eat and drink in haiyang dialect.....
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzk4NjExODI4.html
wasnt zhao zhu xi a classmate of wang guo dian? who did they learn from?
The basics are there, but that is a very different version of Beng Bu in the way he performs it.
He certainly favors the 闪 步 闪 肋 臂 as a throwing technique rather than as a "lifting yin" strike.
左 右 二 阴 阳 and 左 右 低 叫 双 绑 掌 are quite different. 左 封 右 叠 肘 is done quite low with a sinking power. While the end of the clip is fairly standard.
I missed this thread..sorry..I know it is sort of old. Re: "oldest style" of mantis? Does that settle the debate about which of the mantis families/sub-styles are the oldest? Would this clip of the form mean that Plum Blossom is the oldest? 7 star? 6 harmonies?
I find it odd..and perhaps a bit frustrating that few have tried researching the subject more...
It isn't a matter of the research not being attempted. It is more a matter of little documentary evidence, few documents due to the illiteracy of past instructors, and who you choose to believe when stories conflict.
Some of us have come to our own conclusions on the issue. However, there is no sense starting a war over it, so we just keep our opinions to ourselves.