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Hey guys, i recently been having a problem with my right knee and it hurts only when i bend it and right after i've done some physical exercise. I had an MRI scan on it and according to the docs, they said that there is some degeneration of a tissue inside the back knee. Is there anything i can do to overcome this problem? thanks guys.
Print this No_Know post and let a doctor read it before you do any of it and get a doctors o.k. first is recommended
Rub the back of the knee often.
Contract your leg before you bend it. Bend it. release the tension. Tense-up. straighten the kness. Untense. This with rubbing the back of the knee and the calf and thigh and sides of the knee. Might grant you some relief. Don't be afraid to rub across the skin-pushing the skin but allowing it to rebound--move the skin without pressing the muscle underneath--it's like scratching yourself withoPrint this No_Know post and let a doctor read it before you do any of it and get a doctors o.k. first is recommended
Rub the back of the knee often.
Contract your leg before you bend it. Bend it. Release the tension. Tense-up. straighten the knees. Untense. This with rubbing the back of the knee and the calf and thigh and sides of the knee. Might grant you some relief. Don't be afraid to rub across the skin-pushing the skin but allowing it to rebound--move the skin without pressing the muscle underneath--it's like scratching yourself without using your nails (blood cells should address the degeneration with increased nutrients direct deposit~ or removal of dead failed tissue remains to begin repair.
I cannot necessarily know. For any repair I go to the nature of the break. And before that the nature of the mechanism.
Here the mechanism is tissue (according to your mention). Besides companies that have patents which supposedly regenerate tissue, I read tissue is skeletal. Skeletal like calluses and body builder is you get more when you break what you've got.
Degenerating sounds like Gypsy moss (moth) and a lack of needed nutrients. But if they say degeneration and it's healthy but damaged and failing then it seems damaged means the delivery system for nutrients is compromised. Failing or degenerating would associate with over use while mending.
Rub the area and surrounding from perimeter inward. Rubbing at the perimeter to me affects both damaged and healthier tissue-this stimulates the awareness of interest of attention from the body by stimulating to over stimulating a normal-healthy region. When the medics of the body get there it's close enough for the body-medics to notice severed portions and they would understand bridging, getting rid of the old useless failing and begin remaking or depositing tissue material from the normal healthy edge inward using the added tissue as a foundation or some such-ish.
Baby it until you progress with greater flexibility make a fist with your calf and lower thigh to support the knee arethis tension...I No_Know
No_Know, put weight on it slowly as a strength builder. Always contract the muscles around it when using it. Contract off and on to train it. Eat foods that contain stuff the tissues use to form. Beverage water to lubricate the body systems for optimal operation under this time of reconstruction.
No_Know
ut using your nails (blood cells should address the degeneration with increased nutrients direct deposit~ or removal of dead failed tissue remainsto begin repair.
I cannot necessarily know. For any repair I go to the nature of the break. And before that the nature of the mechanism.
Here the mechanism is tissue (according to your mention). Besides companies that have patents which supposedly regenerate tissue, I read tissue is skeletal. Skeletal like callouses and body builder is you get more when you break what you've got.
Degenerating sounds like Gypsy moss (moth) and a lack of needed nutrients. But if they say degeneration and it's healthy but damaged and failing then it seems damaged means the deliverysystem for nutrients is compromised. Failing or degenerating would associate with over use while mending.
Rubthe area and dsurrounding from perimiter inward. Rubbing at the perimiter to me affects both damaged and healthyier tissue-this stimulates the awarenes of interest of attention from the body bystimulating to over stimulating a normal-healthy region. When the medics of the body get there it's close enough for the body-mdeics to notice severed portions and they would understand bridging, getting rid of the old useles failing and begin remaking or depositing tissue material from the normal healthy edge inward using the added tissue as a foundation or some such-ish.
Baby it until you progress with greater flexibility make a fist with your calf and lower thig to support the knee arethis tension...I No_Know
No_Know, put weight on it slowly as a strength builder. Always contract the muscles around it when using it. Contract off and on to train it. Eait foods that contain tstuff the tissues use to form. Beverage water to lubricate the body systems for optimal operation under this time of reconstruction.
No_Know
Degenerative means just that. Degenerative. It is going to worsen. You might be in line for a knee replacement eventually. However, seeing that you are on this forum, I suspect that it is due to something that you are doing. Mui Thai kicks are as bad for the kicker as they are for the kickee. Stop it if that is what you are doing. Sometimes you can hyper extend the knee doing some sort of kung fu kick or move and you need to stop that too. Remember, if it hurts or is uncomfortable when you start doing it, there is a reason for the pain and discomfort. Stop doing it. If it hurts, it is causing damage.
Your doctor's statements are a little unclear. They should be specific enough so you can do some research on the problem. If they continue to be unclear, try finding a sports doctor. The person you went to should have made some kind of recommendation to you. What was it? Is the degeneration chronic or acute? Did the person recommend you to a rehab specialist?
You had No_Know going all over the place with advice and I was about to do the same thing.
Check back with your doctor and get the full and proper assessment, options, etc.
mickey
with the little info in your post nobody can give you a clear treatment. You need to be more clear with your Dr. about what treatments are available.
If your Doc is being very negative and makes it sound like it's hopeless I suggest a 2nd opinion. I was told years ago that after a work injury to my knee it would never heal right and just get worse with time. My knee went from being completely unable to bend to having normal flexibility... the only time it acts up is with just mild pain is if I abuse it with heavy squats or repeatedly jump on it on concrete. Maybe I was lucky but it seems some docs give up too quickly. Bug them for all the info you can and if you need to seek your own treatments out. Don't give up.
You always need a second opinion because any and all doctors are only human and they are actually making their best educated guess. Tests can be more explicit sometimes.
Degenerative means that it is degenerating and getting gradually worse with time. It will not reverse. An injury can be rehabbed with treatment and exercises sometimes, but with a degenerative condition any sort of physical rehab will only continue to wear it on out. However, sometimes an injury, in particular sports injuries, can appear to be degenerative in nature if you do not inform the doctor exactly what you have been up to. The way some of the guys on these forums talk about working out and training I am not surprised that more people are not crippling themselves. Any time you are getting injured during training, you are either doing something wrong or doing something you do not need to be doing.
Either way, good luck.
LOL, before u go any further, if it were me personally, I'd luv to know specifically WHAT "tissue" is it that is degenerating?!? superficial fascia? popliteus muscle? hamstring tendon? knee joint capsule? posterior cruciate ligament? and also, WHY is it degenerating? meaning is it just from "normal" wear and tear? or is there some sort of pathology going on causing the degeneration (I;m guessing former...)
if it's the former, then sure, why not, get a second opinion from a good orthopedist or physiatrist; but more importantly then find a good PT / chiro / acupuncturist / osteopath to work with you to a) manually work out whatever local and systemic structural imbalances may be causing the issue (in the absence of direct trauma, the knee often reflects / is secondary to dysfunction at same or opposite side hip, ankle, ribs / shoulder, etc.) and b) give you some self-corrective movement therapy (a.k.a. exercise, but not just knee extensions on the Nautalis - I mean stuff that is functionally integrated) to maintain the changes;
if it's something else, some sort of organic pathology, you need to know that ASAP, so get that cleared if you already didn't
P.S. - if u happen by sum chance to b in Phoenix, i know a very good osteopathically oriented PT I cud recommend to u
taai gihk yahn,
I thought about organic pathollgy as well, considering the lack of real info. But I did not want to scare the fudge cicles out of this person. But you.......you went there!!!!
mickey
well, I don't think it will have that effect - I do think it will encourage him to get the answers he needs in a timely manner; personally, I don't think it is organic, given that his doc didn't tell him to f/u w/ID or onc, lol; but he should b clear on what specifically is going on before he goes out and starts having people treat it!Quote:
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Chris- who would that be?
joy chaudhuri
if u PM me I can give u his info;Quote:
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I thought I did- but no answer .Quote:
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joy chaudhuri
I thought I answered - but no acknowledgement.Quote:
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Look into stem cells. Maybe that can reverse it.
I believe that US Military have actually regenerated some fingers from using stem cells from using grinded pig bladder in a powder form.
They are spending alot of money in that research and some countries in asia use it for cosmetics. But it does have regenerative effects.
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Hi Chris- I did acknowledged when I checked my pm today- nothing there when I checked two days ago. Much
appreciated- but the PT is in Tucson 110 miles down the road from Tempe.I am ok.. and have useda good DO who dies manipulation before- as you know not all DOs do.A osteopathic PT nearby would have been a good resource. Thanks again,
joy chaudhuri