Response/opinion in brackets:
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Originally Posted by
YouKnowWho
Many people love to say, "This is not WC ...".
((So what?))
Does this mean that style such as Baji, Bagua, longfist, mantis, ... want to belong to the TCMA main stream. Only WC doesn't want to belong to the TCMA main stream?
((Belong? To what? Who is defining TCMA mainstream... You??))
Instead of join in the discussion of "Why doesn't TCMA include ground-grappling?", WC guys prefer to have their own "No Ground Fighting in Wing Chun!!!". :confused:
((You are selecting some folks' comment to generalize about everyone or the art- a fallacy!!))
What's your opinion on this?
((In addition to bracketed comments above--
1.TCMA has may styles, concepts and diversities and differences in concepts, stances, motions, techniques, strategies and -the more one generalizes the more superficial analysis can result and already has.
2.Sure wing chun was mainly made well known by the work of Ip man. It has spread badly and unevenly.Ip man was selective about who he taught well. But many saw enough strength in wing chun they became attached to it and began to teach it without learning the art well. The quality of wing chun has been submerged by it's quantity and careless dilution... and opportunistic marketing oriented variations showing up from time to time. Much discussion of wing chun on this forum and some others are basically by mma wannbees, and many quasi-mma folks and some dogmatists.
3. Yes SC survived via Deng and others in Taiwan, yes, good taiji survived in Chen village-- but Mao's revolution and his opinion on old kung fu being feudal, suppression of old kung fu, , creation of modern wushu and the work of the red guards devastated much of TCMA..many surviviors of wc clf, southern mantis etc ended up in Hong Kong.
4. Post Mao- dvelopment of sanda is an attempt to make mainland kung fu serious- but the humpty dumpty of old TCMA is not quite restored after Mao, the cultural revolution and the red guards..
5. It's a complex story- everyone has "opinions"- but asking for a opinions is not analysis..
and bashing wing chun in this thread so far have elements of cheap shots. Good wing chun instruction here and there in Hong Kong, parts of US. some in Oz, some in Europe still survives..
the good teachers don't rattle on and on in forums. some of the most frequent posters on wing chun appear to know very little wing chun .
6. wing chun is not alone in having quality control problems.You have to search for good things anyway in any activity. Opinions are dime a dozen.
joy chaudhuri