No, no, no. He does karate and makes the mistake of calling it kung fu even though he calls his teacher sensei. You do karate and try to cover it up by calling your teacher sifu.
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No, no, no. He does karate and makes the mistake of calling it kung fu even though he calls his teacher sensei. You do karate and try to cover it up by calling your teacher sifu.
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:confused: but I still call it kung fu. I'm learning chain whip and hook swords. I practice hsing-Ie. I did Pa Kua this moring. Please help me Serpent, what am I doing? :D
you are not doing karate you are not doing kung fu and you are certainly not doing the original shaolin curriculum.
you know what you are doing? you are doing Shaolin-do;)
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Mate, I have no idea what you're doing. But it ain't..... etc., etc.Quote:
Originally posted by Judge Pen
:confused: but I still call it kung fu. I'm learning chain whip and hook swords. I practice hsing-Ie. I did Pa Kua this moring. Please help me Serpent, what am I doing? :D
;)
See, I just found it interesting that themeecer called his teacher/is called by students "sensei". I wondered if that were a Shaolin-Do wide practice. And if not, why his branch in particular would use that term. I mean, the old argument that Sin The' used the term "karate" in the early days because it was familiar to Americans doesn't really hold there I would imagine. I would think most people would be as unfamiliar with "sensei" as they would be with "sifu". That's why I was curious as to the origin of the use of "sensei".Quote:
Originally posted by Judge Pen
Well we call my teacher Sifu, does that mean I do kung fu? ;)
I don't know if it is like that over the entire art. I have called my teacher Sensei for 20 years. I don't think usage of the word sensei came from marketing in the early 70s. I think it is another remnant of our masking as a Japanese art, while still in Indonesia. If GM Sin was used to calling his teacher that for so many years I could clearly see why we still use it today. After calling my teacher this for 20 years I would never change it to sifu for any reason. Sounds like I am saying 'seafood' anyway. :D
That's just your redneck accent :DQuote:
Originally posted by themeecer
I don't know if it is like that over the entire art. I have called my teacher Sensei for 20 years. I don't think usage of the word sensei came from marketing in the early 70s. I think it is another remnant of our masking as a Japanese art, while still in Indonesia. If GM Sin was used to calling his teacher that for so many years I could clearly see why we still use it today. After calling my teacher this for 20 years I would never change it to sifu for any reason. Sounds like I am saying 'seafood' anyway. :D
Could be. I could imagine what an Australian accent would sound like saying it.
I actually had some bozos in college that thought I was either Australian or English after they first heard me speak. I think they were just smoking something. But it is true in some of the remote areas of the Appalachian Mountains that their language is very close to Old English. Basically these people settled there years ago and have been isolated for so long their language has not mutated.
OK then - so why don't other branches use "sensei" too? Does Sin The' expressly say that schools should use "sensei" or "sifu"?
I've been told that even the Boston accent resembles the Australian accent! And someone even tried to tell me a Texan accent had similarities!
Anyway, good to see you didn't take my joke the wrong way :)
Just agreeing with themeecer here. My teacher's been at it a while too (20+ years)...and he indicates that he's always called all of his teachers (he's had several) sensei. But, he lets us call him sifu or sensei interchangably.
I think there's a bit of a movement in SD these days toward changing the outward trappings to make SD more Chinese. Maybe it's to avoid having to explain the whole Indonesian portion of SD history...which, I think, is pretty sketchy. You never hear anyone go into any great detail about much that went on in Indonesia, or at least I haven't. Or maybe it's a "back to the roots" sort of thing, a lot of schools that use the Chinese honorifics are also wearing the traditional Chinese uniforms. All of which, I think, is fine. To approximately quote GM Sin: "Whatever the teacher thinks is good for his school...IS good for his school."
It is their perogative to call their teachers what they want to. I don't think GM Sin has ever told us what to call our teachers, besides calling them 'master' when they reach that rank.Quote:
OK then - so why don't other branches use "sensei" too? Does Sin The' expressly say that schools should use "sensei" or "sifu"?
Same thing with some of our schools wearing gis and belts while others wear frog buttons and sashes.
Except when it is bad for his school :DQuote:
Originally posted by Radhnoti
... To approximately quote GM Sin: "Whatever the teacher thinks is good for his school...IS good for his school."
I called my instructor, Mark.
Well GM sin The could care less what we wear. He wears a gi. I wear frog buttons. He still seemed happy. Some other schools think we are being disrespctful though. It's really amusing to sit back and watch all the fuss over what we wear to train in.